Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

Take all this with a grain of salt. Chances are we'll be right back here in 2 weeks saying the same bullshit. Don't get me wrong, I want this to happen just as bad as the next dreamer, but history continues to repeat itself. Also we have an orange baboon as president... soo.... yeah.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

Emo. AF.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

Naw mane, just being real.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

nope, ive never praised trump for ending daca.
and oh my fucking god, how many fucking times do i have to show you all examples and proof of what they mean by chain migration.
its real, get over it.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

A 40 year path to citizenship is too long to be a widespread problem. There are better countries with easier immigration systems that people would gravitate towards because they wouldn’t be willing to wait that long.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

irrelevant.
you guys are saying it's not real and doesn't happen, both of which are obvious lies. that you personally don't see anything wrong with it doesn't change it's effects.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

Enlighten us on these so called effects.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

do things have to be spelled out for you if they don't fall into your political bias or something.

the introduction of people with no ties, virtually no intent on creating ties with the country past a superficial level, is something most of america doesn't agree with.
this comes into play with DACA because we are a preferable group to prioritize instead of chain migration beneficiaries.
you can chose to call it "family reunification" but it still doesn't change the facts that it allows to bring in too many extended family members.

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

Well no. Iamaman and I demonstrated that it takes an obscene amount of time for a cousin of a citizen to become a citizen. I argued that it’s unlikely that someone is willing to wait almost 35 years just to immigrate to America. This time likely weeds out people who don’t care enough about America to go to another country with more lax immigration policies. I argued it with math and the fact that long lines are far from optimal, not with a political bias.

On the other hand, you are attempting to assume the motives of everyone entering based on family reunification. To you, every single immigrant coming through family reunification has no ties (they do because they have family in America) and has no interest in creating more ties and becoming American. According to you, a person who isn’t highly educated/skilled or did not come to the US as an undocumented immigrant child has no interest in being American. That’s very ignorant and self serving and I don’t think there is much of a difference between you and the xenophobic people who think we don’t want to become American (think “you should’ve applied for citizenship already” type of people).

Re: Freedom Caucus offer
 

that is not an argument on why it's not a problem...
we give out well over hundreds of thousands of green cards based on "family reunification" that extends beyond the mother and father and children of the original sponsor, and you expect me to believe, that every single one of those people assimilate into the country? when they're barely learning the language as they get here?
people that are way older than anyone of us here?

you are being biased because you refuse to recognize that there is a problem with it by saying "well it's unlikely to keep happening". your definition of when we can finally say okay, this is a problem, likely doesn't exist, because you reject the idea that there could be a problem with the kind of immigration we currently have.
if it was up to you, we'd have even more immigration, so yes, that is biased because you'r ignoring the reality of this country's problem based on your political bias.
where in my post did is say everyone, and every immigrant.
enough of them do feel that way, where we have this problem.