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Got_Daca 10-01-2021 01:27 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
Can't wait to ditch Dem party

Smooth 10-01-2021 01:35 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
Schumer is without a doubt thee biggest problem, and Durbin just enables Schumer’s shitty leadership by being w bonafide bitch.

DACAgogue 10-01-2021 01:55 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
I love how everyone on this site is cherry picking that DACA should and will be saved. Nowhere has the parlimenterian indicated that she will allow DACA to go through.

Someone posted the following:

While a portion of that 8 million has one form or another of temporary legal status under statute or Presidential order, the vast majority (nearly 7 million by CBO’s estimate) are unlawfully present and generally ineligible for adjustment of status under current law (as are some of the temporary status holders).

And then they tried to justify that she meant DACA could be saved. Except you forgot the last sentence "unlawfully present and generally ineligible for adjustment of status under current law (as are some of the temporary status holders)." If that's not the definition of fucking DACA, then idk what is.

No she is not going to agree to a DACA only bill. Get off your high horses and your self-prophesizing.

Even the Parlimenterian understands that DACA is a dead end with no precedent. Creating a special path for DACAers makes no logical sense on her part.

You're telling me TPS..Which is actually written in law...and actually has no signifcant legal challenges over its constitutionality is supposedly lower in status than DACA?

Come on.

Hopefully something comes from reconcilitation. Whether its continued DACA for just us or for all. But if you think that DACA is going to get some preferential status, you are sadly sadly mistaken and in for a huge disappointment.

2dreamORnot2dream 10-01-2021 02:03 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
I agree, if the parliamentarian did not let the registry date change go through where only the date needs to be changed and where they control the date to limit its effect on the undocumented population, there is no way she letting daca specific text in bill.

Outsider626 10-01-2021 02:18 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
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2MoreYears 10-01-2021 02:23 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JavierHTx (Post 764652)
With all the mess going on at this border I agree. The least number of people to benefit from a reform the better odds.

Exactly! Plus, even Republicans are sympathetic to Dreamers.

Reality is, anyone other than DACAers, and perhaps TPSers, don't stand a chance. It's not my decision, it's not theirs. It's reality!

Yet, some idiots want an all or nothing solution! Hey, screw your UWD acting-like posture! How about an all-or-at-least-DACA solution?

Who are the selfish ones again ?

isk84life 10-01-2021 02:34 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
Its obvious that the democrats can't pass real legalization so I hope that they are at least able to parole a bunch of our parents so that they at least get some peace of mind for a while.... they also deserve to feel like they are part of this society. Having said that, dems are bitches and they will forever be know as the party of fucking cowards... just can't deliver on anything! Fucking useless.

nationalsfan 10-01-2021 02:58 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
the reality is that it's going to be a miracle if they can add anything to even just protect DACA holders, especially as they race to find a deal on the reconciliation. They aren't going to wait for an immigration provision if they have a deal there.

vft1008 10-01-2021 03:38 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 764659)
Can't wait to ditch Dem party

Can't wait for the republicans to legalize us.

2MoreYears 10-01-2021 03:40 PM

Re: Democrats grasping at straws on immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nationalsfan (Post 764666)
the reality is that it's going to be a miracle if they can add anything to even just protect DACA holders, especially as they race to find a deal on the reconciliation. They aren't going to wait for an immigration provision if they have a deal there.

Throw some real border protection in there and I bet they can. DACA is the lowest hanging fruit to grab.


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