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So it looks like it will be in June hopefully.

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I am officially sad.:cry:

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Read it and weep, Dreamies.
You are being used when it suits the politicians.
They are for you, they are against you.
It changes with the climate.


http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11794

Powerful Democrat Calls Illegal Aliens ‘Free Loaders and Scam Artists’

By John Lillpop Monday, June 8, 2009
Most liberals regard illegal aliens as “Undocumented Democrats” and a veritable gold mine of opportunity for holding on to political power by coddling to those here unlawfully.

For that reason, most Democrat politicians have abandoned patriotic concern about homeland security, the rule of law, stability of the American economy and social order, and preservation of American language and culture.

In fact, one can search high and low for a liberal with a patriotic, pro-America stance on illegal immigration, and that search will usually be futile.

But there is a notable exception: A U.S. Senator who has shown remarkable wisdom, foresight, and clarity, especially for a Democrat.

His office released the following statements (in bold) concerning illegal immigration:

“In response to increased terrorism and abuse of social programs by aliens, (I) today introduced the first and only comprehensive immigration reform bill in Congress. Currently, an alien living illegally in the United States often pays no taxes but receives unemployment, welfare, free medical care, and other federal benefits. Recent terrorist acts, including the World Trade Center bombing, have underscored the need to keep violent criminals out of the country.”

The senator’s bill, titled the “Immigration Stabilization Act,” overhauls the nation’s immigration laws, and calls for a massive scale-down of immigrants allowed into the country. The bill also changes asylum laws to prevent phony asylum seekers.

The senator said the U.S. open door policy is being abused at the expense of honest, working citizens.

The senator continued:

“We are a country founded upon fairness and justice. An individual in real threat of torture or long-term incarceration because of his or her political beliefs can still seek asylum. But this bill closes the door to those who want to abuse America’s inherent generosity and legal system.”

“Our borders have overflowed with illegal immigrants placing tremendous burdens on our criminal justice system, schools and social programs. The Immigration and Naturalization Service needs the ability to step up enforcement. Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care, and other benefits often without paying any taxes.”

“Safeguards like welfare and free medical care are in place to boost Americans in need of short-term assistance. These programs were not meant to entice freeloaders and scam artists from around the world. Even worse, Americans have seen heinous crimes committed by individuals who are here illegally.”

Specific provisions proposed by the senator in the Immigration Stabilization Act include:

* Reduces annual legal immigration levels. Relatives other than spouse or minor children admitted only if already on immigration waiting lists and their admission does not raise annual immigration levels above approved level.

* Reforms asylum rules to prevent aliens from entering the United States illegally under phony “asylum” claims.

* Expands list of felonies considered “aggravated” felonies requiring exclusion and deportation of criminal aliens. Allows courts to order deportation at time of sentencing.

* Increases penalties for failing to depart or re-entering the United States after a final order of deportation order. Increases maximum penalties for visa fraud from five years to 10 years.

* Curtails alien smuggling by authorizing interdiction and repatriation of aliens seeking to enter the United States unlawfully by sea. Increases penalties for alien smuggling.

* Adds “alien smuggling” to the list of crimes subject to sanctions under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act.

* Expands the categories of property that are forfeited when used to facilitate the smuggling or harboring of illegal aliens.

* Clarifies that a person born in the United States to an alien mother who is not a lawful resident is not a U.S. citizen. This will eliminate incentive for pregnant alien women to enter the United States illegally, often at risk to mother and child, for the purpose of acquiring citizenship for the child and accompanying federal financial benefits.

* Mandates that aliens who cannot demonstrably support themselves without public or private assistance are excludable. This will prevent admission of aliens likely to be dependent on public financial support. This requirement extends to the sponsor of any family sponsored immigrant.

* Increases border security and patrol officer positions.”

What sort of a Democrat would take such a politically incorrect--but morally and legally correct--stance?

Perhaps the Democrat with a brain is Zell Miller from the great state of Georgia? Or could it be a reincarnation of Alabama’s late conservative firebrand, George Wallace?

The answer: None of the above!

Harry Reid: Against illegal immigration, before he was for it!
In fact, Senator Harry Reid (D-Nev.) introduced the Immigration Stabilization Act in the United States Senate in 1993. The statements quoted above are from a press release issued by Reid’s office on August 5, 1993.

How is it that Harry Reid was exactly right 16 years ago, but is so completely wrong now? Why does Reid oppose programs he once sponsored now that the problem is seven times greater after 9/11?

In the spring of 2006, while the U.S. Senate was debating legislation to make English the official U.S. language, Reid even saw fit to drag out the R word to slander those who supported the English bill.

And, of course, Reid has voted for Mexico and against America every time the U.S. Senate has considered amnesty.

Harry Reid: Against illegal immigration, before he was for it!

Why?

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Good try, but do us all a favor and go back to Alipac if you wish you share your "articles" from such well established news organizations such as the "Canadian free press", unfortunately for you, there are no sensationalist teabaggers in here to stroke your ego.

What's next? A vdare article of how illegal immigration is a terrorist plot?

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am I the only one who sees this ^^ troll? and you guys can block specific IP addresses, no?

...and am I the only one who finds these people fascinating? I mean, it must take a lot of effort spending one's every waking moment trolling the web 24/7 to desseminate xenophobia, bigotry, and racism.

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BANNED!!!!:-x

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I am no troll.
Expand your minds.
get some input outside of your dream act.

Listen to opposing views.
If you don't, you risk being manipulated and used for others' agendas.
I come here to read opposing views, different from mine to see if there are any new points or concepts I should consider on this topic.

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Sorry, we don't consider this "opposing views":

We consider that right-wing propaganda.

Now, beat it.

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Angeleno, Calling out the article specifically because its coming from the Canadian Free press, there's nothing wrong with that! As long as it pertains to undocumented Americans and things hindering/endorsing the Dream Act, see now that was very immature of you to do.
The guidelines in this section clearly state:
"A reputable source is a one that maintains a high degree of professionalism and has a history of quality reporting. National newspapers and magazines are preferred but lesser known sources are acceptable provided they uphold the same degree of quality. Much important information comes from local journalists familiar with the topic and from blog entries of well known academics and legal professionals - these are also acceptable. Links to random personal blogs are not acceptable."

Sir/Madam this is a acceptable source and it definitely highlighted news that is important for us.
ps: I am totally for the dream act, however with such a controversial Bill, there will always be people against and we need to be aware of all these negative views/ppl trying to hinder us from our path. it will only make us stronger in our path to achieve the dream

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Read my comment above, this is not a news article, this is hate speech.

If this xenophobic "writer" is so concerned with Homeland Security, he should start by worrying about the growing threat of domestic terrorism, fueled by the Becks, Hannitys and O'Reillys of the world.

And, as Nick said last week, this is NOT a debate site. We are 100% percent on one side of the issue of immigration, and if you're not, then this isn't the place for you.

That goes for you too, PrincessZ.

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there is no debate to be had. the very definition of xenophobe- which you are- negates any idea of debate, because people of your ilk don't comprehend it. you spend your days seething with vitriolic anger at people you don't know for your wretched lives, and your pathetic failures. You conflate these facts about your lives, with issues like immigration spoon-fed you by anti-immigrant blogs who purport to want legal immigration, but are actually shades removed from kkk/white supremacy, and hide behind antiquated and bloviated arguments like "rule of law." you know nothing; zilch; nada, about immigration, immigrants, or immigration law. you wouldn't recognize either even if they were shoved far up your rectum.

Do yourself, us, this nation, every honorable sensibility with its borders, and the last grains of self-respect and crawl back into the hole you came out. I've got time, it's Sunday- I don't have work, and there's more where this came from.

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Please stop posting negative articles.

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Omg What!? Of course i'm for the dream act! And yes everyone on this forum should share that view, but if we have people who don't agree with it, you would just ban them? I mean wouldn't we benefit from what they have to say and counter their remarks and maybe get them on our side? i may be a little too positive about this but heck, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". These little pipsqueeks against the dream act that ever so appear on this forum leak out counter arguments and hate that may be presented to us in Congress, from perhaps the Republicans side. If we can't tackle them here, how are we suppose to do it in Congress? I may not be the most updated person here, orwho knows about political agendas and the entirety of the Dream Act, but simple logic tells me that we can benefit from countering the remarks of those who are against the Dream Act. This is one of the biggest forums yet, if we can make a difference here with the common people, it can flow onto the big guys "Republicans".

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I know you're new here so you may not know this already, but yes, that's the policy. His/her posts will be gone as soon as a moderator sees them.

I can't stress this enough: This is NOT a site for debating. We support the Dream Act 100%

And if you want to debate them hoping to turn them to our side, you're welcome to do that at Alipac.us - see how they treat your opposing views over there.