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ADreamforLife 03-31-2011 11:22 AM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by Happygolucky (Post 213841)
I don't think anyone bashed him or her for being educated. The person included obnoxious statement that looked down upon people's opinions. Education should be taken with humility not a sense of superiority.

Yes you are right, of course. There's no reason to look down upon those less educated and there's no reason to bash those that more highly educated. But there's a lot of both going around on this forum, which I don't get.

swordfish 03-31-2011 01:03 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
We don't need Obamas's sympathy, we needed his support.
Newt Gingrich can be very bad news for Obama next year. According to Gingrich there must be a place between legalization and deportation & I don't think Obama has any credibility when it comes to immigration.

paleale 04-01-2011 04:36 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 213887)
I respect anyone that takes his/her time to think things through before taking any action. However, Obama and Congress are taking way too long to figure out what to do with this Immigration issue, that wasn't the case with the Healthcare Bill.

The problem with his approach is that he keeps delaying action on an issue that requires immediate attention, especially since this is his 3RD YEAR in office, isn't it about time that he stops "hoping" for Immigration Reform? He did promise Immigration Reform within the "first 100 days," asking for him to make good on his promise 3 YEARS LATER is reasonable in my opinion.

What do you want him to do exactly?
He's not a dictator. The Dream Act failed in the Senate- And it's chances of passing are much lower now than before. What makes you think voting on it now is a good option?

It's easy to just blame one guy for everything, but let's remember that there are THREE BRANCHES of government and that an executive order for something like this wouldn't be appropriate at all.

It's very counter-productive to be anti-Obama at this point. He clearly wants DREAM to pass, but doesn't have any way to do it now. We need to support him by electing Democrats in 2012 so they can take back the house and hopefully also get a greater majority in the Senate. He's the president, not the king.

Let's not forget how much worse everything would be if Republicans took the White House and/or the Senate.

I understand everyone is upset, but let's direct that towards something useful, instead of just getting mad at the one guy who could make our situations better if we help him.

Ali 04-01-2011 07:21 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
yup...canada it is

2Face 04-01-2011 09:30 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
I sincerely applaud your optimism. But, how can Obama explain not tackling DA when there was clear support in both the house and the senate? It is not our fault that he kept delaying the issue till the last minute. Now it has gotten to a point where I see myself leaving this country very soon.

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Originally Posted by paleale (Post 213918)
What do you want him to do exactly?
He's not a dictator. The Dream Act failed in the Senate- And it's chances of passing are much lower now than before. What makes you think voting on it now is a good option?

It's easy to just blame one guy for everything, but let's remember that there are THREE BRANCHES of government and that an executive order for something like this wouldn't be appropriate at all.

It's very counter-productive to be anti-Obama at this point. He clearly wants DREAM to pass, but doesn't have any way to do it now. We need to support him by electing Democrats in 2012 so they can take back the house and hopefully also get a greater majority in the Senate. He's the president, not the king.

Let's not forget how much worse everything would be if Republicans took the White House and/or the Senate.

I understand everyone is upset, but let's direct that towards something useful, instead of just getting mad at the one guy who could make our situations better if we help him.


paleale 04-02-2011 02:34 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
^ He did tackle it; it failed. Trying again would have only had the same result.

Ali 04-02-2011 04:35 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by paleale (Post 213952)
^ He did tackle it; it failed. Trying again would have only had the same result.

Not at the right time he didn't...reading comprehension goes a long way.

paleale 04-03-2011 05:08 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by Ali (Post 213958)
Not at the right time he didn't...reading comprehension goes a long way.

You're right Ali. If he tacked it in the first month of his term, five more senators would have voted in favor of the bill just because. :shock:

Common sense goes a long way.

Pursuitofhappiness 04-04-2011 08:02 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 214043)
Do you honestly believe that voting Democrats back into the majority in both Houses (especially the House of Representatives where they're in the minority) will guarantee them passing the Dream Act? It won't happen. They had the majority in 2009 remember?

According to Obama's "first 100 days" of office promise of passing Immigration Reform, he had the majority in both Houses but decided to spend MOST of his political capital on the Healthcare Bill. He could've at least passed the Dream Act back then, when he had the chance to do it, but he chose not to bother.

I know that he represents only one of the three branches of government, BUT he holds a lot of power, and if he really felt the urgency to pass the Dream Act, believe me, it'd have passed by now.

I'd rather have the Republicans in power, at least they're honest enough to tell us that they don't want us here, rather than Democrats that CLAIM to be on our side and do nothing to help anyone.

That's exactly how I felt. Obama was so passionate to pass healthcare bill even though that lowered his approval rating. DA was supported by both GOP and Democrats when he first elected into the office, and he did not do anything about it until the last minute. Some people say that he was strategically not supporting it, so he won't lose his approval rating anymore, but what about healthcare?
He could have tackle the issue, but he did not do it, and that resulted in dreamers to live under the shadow for next few years or might be forever.
The reason I left the US is Obama never seemed to say "yes" or "no" on DA. There is no answer to a question such as "maybe", and Obama exactly did that. In the GOP majority congress, they obviously send the message "no" to DA and CIR.
I know many people in this forum need definite answer to our problem, not some kind of assumption or false hope. For those people who think they are educated and calm in this forum, your patience won't do a thing for your future. Act now or wait for your doom. You can not be young and stupid forever.

paleale 04-04-2011 09:34 PM

Re: Barack Obama still hopeful on immigration
 
I'm not even going to re-address the fact that there isn't ONE senator who voted against the bill that would have voted in favor if it was introduced earlier.

Keep up your complaining and moaning guys!
It makes it all better! Keep going!


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