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DA User 04-08-2012 05:46 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin1is7lucky (Post 250098)
First of all I want to be a cop so I know a thing or two about the law and no misdemeanors are very harsh. We might as well not drive then if that is part of the deal. I understand no felonies because if you plan to be a criminal than you don't deserve to be here, but we should treat misdemeanors like they are if we obtain a ticket we will pay the fine and/or do the community service.

It is not a misdemeanor if you pay the fine. It only becomes a problem if you don't do anything with the ticket.

DA User 04-08-2012 05:50 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
Why no fines?

Restrictions on travelling shows a Dreamer is serious about education and work.

Being undocumented is not a crime.

What does that tell about a Dreamer who has taxes left to pay? Moral character issue.




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Originally Posted by Jelly Bean Lover (Post 250149)
No fines, not 1,000 or 10,000 dollars, or anything.
No language on age, even though I am personally okay with 16/30 and retroactive provisions for people with degrees.
No language on travel restrictions, though I would be fine with the restrictions they have for green-card holders.
No language about prior record, especially about misdemeanors (for the reasons mentioned previously in this thread). Personally I would be okay with language that says you have to keep out of trouble when you are given status, but I don't like punishing people for crimes they have already made good on, especially if they are minor crimes that probably resulted from being here illegally.
No language on taxes, even though I would not object to having somebody pay back taxes if they skipped out on them.

I would be okay with a provision for graduation in 6 years, assuming you could work to support yourself through school. Then again, I would not mention that as a possible bargaining point.

Well, this is all just a personal opinion, and like I said I would keep it as vague as possible, so I would not be specific even as those things I don't object to on your list.


Swim19 04-08-2012 09:16 PM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 250154)
Why no fines?

Restrictions on travelling shows a Dreamer is serious about education and work.

Being undocumented is not a crime.

What does that tell about a Dreamer who has taxes left to pay? Moral character issue.


I also agree that a fine is unneeded. And $10,000? That's a lot! 245i fine is only $1,000.

DA User 04-09-2012 03:26 AM

Re: Upcoming Rubio bill: what type of visa process would we support?
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 250176)
I also agree that a fine is unneeded. And $10,000? That's a lot! 245i fine is only $1,000.

I know but we really need to pass the Dream Act. $10K a lunch money to Dreamers when they want to pursue higher education with high paying jobs. It should not take long to pay off that $10K.


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