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libertarian1776 10-22-2017 04:17 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
i really dont think we are fighting but we are engaging on a healthy discourse.

but when someone says "fuck you" or "you're a racist" because they disagree with your POV, thats how it really starts.

lol

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 648608)
Girls! Stop fighting over things we have no control over at all.


ECW 10-22-2017 04:19 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
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Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 648607)
Emotionally, it does make sense to include everyone. But, realistically, some people have to be left out in order for a relief to happen especially under this administration and a trade-off must happen between both political parties as well.

Nail on the head, I would want nothing more than as much people as possible to be included. The reality of how things are looking now it's extremely unlikely anyone outside the current DACA pool would be included...

libertarian1776 10-22-2017 04:23 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
true. DACA pool would be lucky to get legalized. nobody is feeling special!

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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 648610)
Nail on the head, I would want nothing more than as much people as possible to be included. The reality of how things are looking now it's extremely unlikely anyone outside the current DACA pool would be included...


bad.bunny 10-22-2017 04:24 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 648610)
Nail on the head, I would want nothing more than as much people as possible to be included. The reality of how things are looking now it's extremely unlikely anyone outside the current DACA pool would be included...

Agreed. This administration is extremely strict when it comes to immigration, so, I doubt they will expand the pool for a relief. They're even starting to reject more DACA apps and terminate those that had convictions who were accepted before. It's a way different field and if you aren't in the program right now, the future is unfortunately grim.

2Face 10-22-2017 04:26 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 648610)
Nail on the head, I would want nothing more than as much people as possible to be included. The reality of how things are looking now it's extremely unlikely anyone outside the current DACA pool would be included...

Yes. But the problem is when we call for this people misconstrue and think that we are against them and we are "selfish." The reality is that for EVERYONE to be legalized, DACA recipients have to be legalized first as a stepping stone forward! Nobody here is selfish. The fact is that Trump administration WILL NOT sign any bill that includes mass legalization for everyone. It is in everyones interest right now for us to push for DACA legalization immediately.

It is very selfish and cruel to say "Legalization for ALL or else no legalization at all!" like some of these idiotic organizations like UWD are demanding. DACA recipients deserve immediate legalization because we've put in the hard work and proven ourselves!

libertarian1776 10-22-2017 04:32 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
yup, they get butt-hurt because they arent included like DACA-IR-DA. so they went no legalization to happen because they arent included. being selfish is a two way road my friends.

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 648613)
Yes. But the problem is when we call for this people misconstrue and think that we are against them and we are "selfish." The reality is that for EVERYONE to be legalized, DACA recipients have to be legalized first as a stepping stone forward! Nobody here is selfish. The fact is that Trump administration WILL NOT sign any bill that includes mass legalization for everyone. It is in everyones interest right now for us to push for DACA legalization immediately.

It is very selfish and cruel to say "Legalization for ALL or else no legalization at all!" like some of these idiotic organizations like UWD are demanding. DACA recipients deserve immediate legalization because we've put in the hard work and proven ourselves!


2Face 10-22-2017 04:46 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 648615)
yup, they get butt-hurt because they arent included like DACA-IR-DA. so they went no legalization to happen because they arent included. being selfish is a two way road my friends.

The worst is when those who were DACA recipients who adjusted and got Green Cards are now against this compromise bill because they want mass legalization so their families can become legalized. We have plenty of those people on here. You already know who I am talking about.

Got_Daca 10-22-2017 06:15 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
Argument about hypotheticals

Typical DAP

bad.bunny 10-22-2017 06:17 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 648632)
Argument about hypotheticals

Typical DAP

You are a repeat offender of this. I even called you out on it earlier last week, questioning if you had a time machine to verift your assumptions and you even made a post thanking protestors for the passage of the DA even though it still hasn't passed yet.

Demise 10-22-2017 06:32 PM

Re: Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement.
 
Which ass did they pull 3.6 million out of.

When DACA was put into effect the expected amount was 1.5 million, after 5 years we only had 800k, so roughly half of the estimate.


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