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Swim19 01-16-2018 07:08 PM

Re: Summary of Senate deal
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 672026)
Factor in the Blue Morons mentioning the CBC and the possibility of addressing TPS in a DACA deal. We all know that trying to include TPS in the deal is futile. It will not lead anywhere.

I don't know. I still feel even if DEMs would have agreed to more wall money that Purdue & Cotton would have then pushed Trump to ask for something more.

ceaguila 01-16-2018 07:11 PM

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Bipartisan immigration plan fell short on border security: White House

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...source=twitter

2Face 01-16-2018 07:15 PM

Re: Summary of Senate deal
 
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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 672036)
Bipartisan immigration plan fell short on border security: White House

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...source=twitter

You've provided a different articles link brosef. Thanks!

Afridi786 01-16-2018 07:18 PM

Re: Summary of Senate deal
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 672042)
You've provided a different articles link brosef. Thanks!

Here it is.

thedream 01-16-2018 07:33 PM

Re: Summary of Senate deal
 
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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 672046)

I can only hope that this is a face-saving move for the White House. Ask for more money and a few other small concessions, and once it's agreed, they can justify their initial rejection of the deal.

If this is the case, then I hope the democrats concede and give an extra 1-2 billion. It's already a waste of money, but anything above that will be (1) too much of a waste of money and more importantly (2) politically untenable as it gets Trump closer to declaring victory in getting his border wall.

Admittedly, this is a best case scenario. In all likelyhood, this is, as Senator Graham so graciously put it, a shitshow. And it will likely leave us all with immigration blue balls.

jwxie518 01-16-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thedream (Post 672071)
I can only hope that this is a face-saving move for the White House. Ask for more money and a few other small concessions, and once it's agreed, they can justify their initial rejection of the deal.

If this is the case, then I hope the democrats concede and give an extra 1-2 billion. It's already a waste of money, but anything above that will be (1) too much of a waste of money and more importantly (2) politically untenable as it gets Trump closer to declaring victory in getting his border wall.

Admittedly, this is a best case scenario. In all likelyhood, this is, as Senator Graham so graciously put it, a shitshow. And it will likely leave us all with immigration blue balls.

I remember telling people how building a wall is useless and cost so much money. How I and everyone rejected that idea every day on social media. I said that from the POV of a futute USC.. It’s quiet now. My citizen friends don’t shout anymote. I don’t either. No one in my social circle is publicly resharing/retweeting how dumb Trump is. We are used to Trump, and we are used to how Congress works. We’ve got better things to worry about like our day job and family.

You know why? Most people don’t really care. It’s a “in the moment of heat” thing. We are well-passed Trump’s 100 days. We read about investigation and Trump’s ridiculous comments every day, well, guess what? Who is marching now huh?

So if we give them 10B, the voters will soon to forget. Even if they don’t forget, they will just keep cool ln election day. This is why our modern society never really progress

DD4S 01-16-2018 07:46 PM

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so is this the old one? or the new one that's going to be presented tomorrow?

catportal 01-16-2018 07:46 PM

Re: Summary of Senate deal
 
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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 672027)
.@lisamurkowski and @SenatorCollins both tell me me they support the @LindseyGrahamSC @SenatorDurbin DACA proposal

Finally a quality post. You guys need to look past the politics, look for the nuggets of important info like this.

thedream 01-16-2018 07:51 PM

Re: Summary of Senate deal
 
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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 672079)
I remember telling people how building a wall is useless and cost so much money. How I and everyone rejected that idea every day on social media. I said that from the POV of a futute USC.. It’s quiet now. My citizen friends don’t shout anymote. I don’t either. No one in my social circle is publicly resharing/retweeting how dumb Trump is. We are used to Trump, and we are used to how Congress works. We’ve got better things to worry about like our day job and family.

You know why? Most people don’t really care. It’s a “in the moment of heat” thing. We are well-passed Trump’s 100 days. We read about investigation and Trump’s ridiculous comments every day, well, guess what? Who is marching now huh?

So if we give them 10B, the voters will soon to forget. Even if they don’t forget, they will just keep cool ln election day. This is why our modern society never really progress

The sad truth is that the average liberal in this country cares a lot more about opposing the wall than legalizing the Dreamers. The wall is extremely publicized, it's become a symbol of anti-Trump sentiment. The wall represents everything these people hate about Trump.

Liberals would hate giving in on the wall even if it means we get citizenship. Dreamers don't mean much to them. Most have never known a Dreamer and don't really understand what we're going through. Just think of all the people who have been deported since Trump became president, they are forgotten about within minutes. The same thing will happen to us if the Dream Act doesn't pass.

But the wall? As long as Trump is president, liberals will hate the wall. It's a powerful political tool and the democrats won't wanna give in on it.

versailles 01-16-2018 07:55 PM

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this is the same one they rejected.
dems need to get real.
and people need to understand he's not talking about a great wall of china.


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