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VJB2 02-15-2018 12:57 PM

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Get your renewals in.

year2010 02-15-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Busybee (Post 690557)
This is so much true. He clearly is not negotiating in good faith because he is stubborn in getting nothing less than what he demands. Changing legal immigration is a topic for CIR, not legalization of dreamers. I honestly do not see anything passing if he doesn't drop the demand to making changes to family reunification. I agree with mostly of what's in the Collins bill but can someone please explain how come the bill protects people who haven't even gotten here in the first place? I saw someone here post something like it would protect people who got before June 2018.

I read somewhere and hope it becomes true is that, the reason that Grassley bill is to be voted last bc they hope when the previous 3 don’t have enough (knock on wood) , that will push Dems to go vote on that one....hope that’s the case.

year2010 02-15-2018 01:01 PM

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Does anyone know when they gonna start voting?

Rida980 02-15-2018 01:02 PM

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So if this fails when do they bring the next bill up for a vote?

pavpatel 02-15-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by year2010 (Post 690560)
Does anyone know when they gonna start voting?

Voting on what? Who said they're voting?

nationalsfan 02-15-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rida980 (Post 690561)
So if this fails when do they bring the next bill up for a vote?

Turtle said this was the last day for immigration, so.... who knows when another bill will ever be voted on?

year2010 02-15-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pavpatel (Post 690563)
Voting on what? Who said they're voting?

They are voting for cloture for the 4 amendments today. They set them up yesterday,

Carlo 02-15-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Seding (Post 690554)
True, and that is sad... Then what is the point of negotiating then?

You come to the table with a proposal, and you won't budge at all... That is very disingenious...

Yeah, and I think the dems know that. If I were one of the senators, I'd push for a plan close to the what the donald wants. (personally, I'd push for the Flake bill, and that's me as a dreamer talking). Hopefully, that gets a huge majority in the Senate and somehow get the House to vote for it. And, make Trump decided to veto or sign it.

Either way, as a dem senator, I and my caucus would look good because we tried and compromised while making the president look bad for deciding against it. Or get a bill passed.

The biggest obstacle will be Paul Ryan. He won't put that up for a vote in the house because he knows it will pass. And if it passes, it will force the president to make a choice. He doesn't want that.

So what do they do? Say dems won't negotiate (even though they've given a lot of ground already), and folks will blame dems. Isn't politics great when people are uninformed? (obvious sarcasm).

Got_Daca 02-15-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 690546)
Is what Lankford said true? That the Collins bill lets people who arrived before June 2018 not be targetted by DHS? Why would they add that poison pill?

Months of negotiation to add a Dem poison bill

Unbelievable

Absolutely no reason for that poison bill to be added except to derail the whole bill

Dems want us to suffer

SEPT 06 02-15-2018 01:14 PM

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My guess would be, if democrats don't get what they want, then Trump doesn't get his big lovely Wall. If he doesn't get his wall then he'll have hard time running in 2020. He promise his supporter, he will have wall along the southern border.


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