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JJ Glo 03-12-2018 10:00 PM

Re: These Dreamers Were Deported to Mexico. Now, They're Helping Others Start Again
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 697178)
So let me get this straight, you guys are saying a drunk driver shouldn’t face the consequences DUI does if they didn’t harm anyone or anything?

CUSenior is the type of person to reject CIR because it doesn't cover every single illegal alien regardless of crimes.

CUSenior 03-12-2018 10:05 PM

Re: These Dreamers Were Deported to Mexico. Now, They're Helping Others Start Again
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 697178)
So let me get this straight, you guys are saying a drunk driver shouldn’t face the consequences DUI does if they didn’t harm anyone or anything?

No. I think that if someone didn’t harm anyone, then they shouldn’t go to jail. Obviously drinking and driving is a behavior that we should discourage. But I feel they should get their DL suspended for 6 months to a year and perhaps have to pay hefty fines. And then their record should be expunged because even though they should face punishment, it shouldn’t last a lifetime.

CUSenior 03-12-2018 10:11 PM

Re: These Dreamers Were Deported to Mexico. Now, They're Helping Others Start Again
 
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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 697186)
CUSenior is the type of person to reject CIR because it doesn't cover every single illegal alien regardless of crimes.

JJ Glo is the type of person who believes that Dreamers with traffic tickets should be sent to work in Arpaio’s tent cities before being deported with a permanent bar on returning.

bad.bunny 03-12-2018 10:14 PM

Re: These Dreamers Were Deported to Mexico. Now, They're Helping Others Start Again
 
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Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 697187)
No. I think that if someone didn’t harm anyone, then they shouldn’t go to jail. Obviously drinking and driving is a behavior that we should discourage. But I feel they should get their DL suspended for 6 months to a year and perhaps have to pay hefty fines. And then their record should be expunged because even though they should face punishment, it shouldn’t last a lifetime.

Tell that to the mothers of the victims who were lost due to drunk drivers. MADD's iniativies to strictly penalize drunk drivers have succesfully worked to reduce the amount of accidents and I dont think it should change.

CUSenior 03-12-2018 10:19 PM

Re: These Dreamers Were Deported to Mexico. Now, They're Helping Others Start Again
 
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Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 697189)
Tell that to the mothers of the victims who were lost due to drunk drivers. MADD's iniativies to strictly penalize drunk drivers have succesfully worked to reduce the amount of accidents and I dont think it should change.

Give me a mother of a victim of drunk driving and I’ll find a mother of a victim of reckless driving or driver exhaustion. MADD’s initiatives, while grounded in a good cause, have been damaging to the conversation on driving safety. They have forced us to focus solely on drunk driving when in reality, there are other issues of drivers safety that are just as dangerous.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-13-2018 12:32 AM

Re: These Dreamers Were Deported to Mexico. Now, They're Helping Others Start Again
 
The entire premises of ruining someone’s lives with DUI is to discourage people from driving while drunk as that can kill someone. It takes a lot of irresponsibility to make that choice to drink knowing you don’t have a ride back home. While it’s true that once you’re under the influence of a substance such as alcohol you are impaired from making right choices, ultimately you chose to drink and be under the influence.


What if this ex dreamer had hit a family van killing them all? Just because he didn’t doesn’t remove the potentiality of it happening


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