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Swim19 01-06-2019 05:01 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
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Originally Posted by always_learner11 (Post 726010)
Same old same old

@TheToddSchulte
Todd Schulte Retweeted Maggie Haberman

IMPT: POTUS continues to say he wants SCOTUS to end DACA — to do his dirty work really — because he thinks that the lives of 800k Dreamers are leverage over the Democrats. This is absolutely wrong, and people should be clear what is really going on when his admin floats “DACA.”
Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
Back from Camp David, via pool:

"lt's going to be a steel border and that's going to give us
great strength."

He didn't directly answer a question about whether he'd
talked to Schumer or Pelosi today: "We've been in touch
with a lot of people and i informed my folks to say that
we'll build a steel barrier steel that it will be made out of
steel, that it will be less obtrusive and stronger."

On DACA: "| would consider DACA but | think it'd be
complicated. |'d rather have the Supreme Court rule and
then work with the Democrats on DACA. | want to help
with DACA... Rather than doing something with DACA now
|'d rather work with Democrats. Let the Supreme Court
rule first."


"We have a crisis at the border of drugs of human beings
being trafficked all over the world... and criminals and
gang members coming through."

On unpaid federal workers: ''They will make an adjustment
because they want to see the border taken care of."

On border problems: "Because of the strength of our
economy, the stronger it is, it's probably the greatest
economy we've ever had, and because of that it's
happening even more so we have to stop it."

Yep...no ones serious about DACA fix being included (at least not yet).

Smooth 01-06-2019 05:02 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 726011)
Yep...no ones serious about DACA fix being included (at least not yet).

I agree with you. He is being a dick too. Fucking fix it now. Why wait until SCOTUS ruling?

tays123 01-06-2019 05:17 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
Did the Dream Act pass back in 2010? The answer is NO. Therefore, they did fail miserably!
Senator Dick Durbin has been on this for the last 18 years now. He should have resigned back in 2010 when he couldn't even get the Democratic Caucus in the Senate to stick together to pass the Dream Act, that had been his top priority since 2001. He is ineffective. It is as simple as that. I am sick and tired of him printing our pictures on cardboards and giving speeches about us on the Senate floor.

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Originally Posted by always_learner11 (Post 726008)
Failed miserably? 90% Democrats stuck together, 50/55 (vs 92% sticking together on the Republican side, 36/39). Both parties stick together, respectively, pretty equally. Let's see how both parties stick together this year. Chaos will reign supreme in 2019.

You're somehow against Durbin, of all people? You prefer saving yourself even if means the chances of legalization drops for 20+million other undocumented people, TPS recipients, and asylum seekers?

We'll just have to agree to disagree on those matters.


libertarian1776 01-06-2019 05:22 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
Cuz he’s gets leverage back if scotus rules against us. Dems have no choice to give in to his demands when we are expiring one by one.

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 726012)
I agree with you. He is being a dick too. Fucking fix it now. Why wait until SCOTUS ruling?


LiveYourLife 01-06-2019 05:27 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 726015)
Cuz he’s gets leverage back if scotus rules against us. Dems have no choice to give in to his demands when we are expiring one by one.

Exactly.. for leverage

MIdreamer 01-06-2019 05:28 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
Don’t signal, come to Democrats with an offer. After what happen last time, signaling don’t mean shit. Trump can change his mind right after.

Smooth 01-06-2019 05:29 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 726015)
Cuz he’s gets leverage back if scotus rules against us. Dems have no choice to give in to his demands when we are expiring one by one.

Have no choice? I don't think they'd give him anything because (1) a lot of the concessions are harmful and (2) 2020 election; they can just use the issue against him.

We'd be asked to take one for the team.

Smooth 01-06-2019 05:29 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 726021)
Don’t signal, come to Democrats with an offer. After what happen last time, signaling don’t mean shit. Trump can change his mind right after.

I am with you on this one. Guy needs to stop being a dick and just offer the deal to Dems. He is not doing that yet.

tays123 01-06-2019 05:32 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
He is the definition of the d. word. What do you expect from him?
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 726024)
I am with you on this one. Guy needs to stop being a dick and just offer the deal to Dems. He is not doing that yet.


libertarian1776 01-06-2019 06:01 PM

Re: White House signals some compromise in ending U.S. government shutdown
 
i dont think it will come to that point. Dems and some Republicans wont feed us to the wolves.

the dems we’re ready to give $25 billion for us till the court injunction happened.

Trump doesnt care about us, at the end of all this, he’s an opportunist. u cant blame Dems for not trying to come to the table anymore, Trump always fucked it up everytime. U cant negotiate with the guy. the

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 726022)
Have no choice? I don't think they'd give him anything because (1) a lot of the concessions are harmful and (2) 2020 election; they can just use the issue against him.

We'd be asked to take one for the team.



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