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Right... so we are going to neglect reality.

Fact 1 Bernie was doing better in Michigan and Wisconsin states where Hilary lost .
Fact 2 during the Wikileaks it was revealed that Hillary gave a 2 million dollar loan for the party debt. Other dirty tricks were uncovered for everyone to see ...they were clearly for Hilary.
Fact 3 Donna Brazile admitted to sharing the debate question with the Clinton campaign.
Fact 4 Debbie wasserman Schultz quit after the Wikileaks were released to the public
Fact 5 Hilary didn’t bring out the youth vote like Obama did , the youth vote was with Bernie Sanders.
Fact 6 Demise it’s funny that you say it’s stupid about the delegates, but if it’s stupid why did the DNC change the role of superdelegates in the presidential nomination back in 2018?

The Wikileaks showed the corruption within the Democratic Party and how really rigged it was for Bernie Sanders

Bernie Bros and all those names don’t help with anything.

Identity politics didn’t work for Hilary 2016 and it sure didn’t help her trying to buy her own party. Everyone could see she was with Wall Street.

Substance of policies over identity politics.

Sure Hilary would have been a million times better trump but in the end she lost it.

If the DNC places another corporate centrist Democrat over the will of the people then you can be sure they hand trump another term. If they try to play the identity politics it’s not going to work.

There is a growing left populism and you can see it with alexandria ocasio-cortez.

My choice if I could vote
1. Bernie
2. Elizabeth warren

Or why not Bernie/Elizabeth ticket

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what about Bernie calling for equal pay for women but he wasnt paying his female campaign staff the same as their male counterparts? what about the allegations of sexual harassment from his male staff?

we need someone new...

Beto, Gabbard, or Harris. someone young that actually represents us.

Bernie or Warren will put us on the back burner, immigration is not their priority.. theyre priority is wealth inequality.

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Yeah I think you are taking those things out of context.

Beto and Harris are centrists corporate democrats, if you think they will change anything then they can keep calling us dreamers. Just listen to the things Harris is saying about DACA. Harris is the worst of the worst. I’m not sure if Beto could win with his Obama like speeches.

Tulsi Gabbard is on my list she could be a good president.

I don’t know why you say that? I think we would be better off if they win.

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Someone like Bernie would never get elected. Get over it.

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Right, he’s only the most popular politician therefore he can’t win.

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that's a yikes from me.

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Tulsi Gabbard?

The homophobic,
Assad regime supporting,
Faux progressive?

Thank you, next.

I'm all for a real progressive in the White House and some actual progressive policy, but you don't cut your nose off to spite your face.
Which is exactly what the Bernie Bros did because they just can't understand that sometimes progress is incremental.
But no, they want it and they want it now, or else everyone has to suffer. Conservatives are a lot of things, but I admire how they play the long game. Taking over State legislatures and the judiciary, and gerrymandering their way into a majority. Progressives need to stop being so self absorbed.

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Bernie is a bit too far left for my taste and his age will work against him during the election. I like to see a safer choice like Biden but he is kind of old now too.

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ahaha, I see the russian bots have decided to out themselves.
tulsi a homophobe? laughable.
being anti-war? how the FUCK is that a bad thing you goober, lmfao.

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