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acar7 02-17-2017 01:17 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Some people choose to go to work, and guess what? They can still get good jobs with just a high school degree.

My fiance got DACA in september and he just got a job at a reputable place that works with people with disabilities. It comes with CPR training, benefits, OSHA classes,etc...

and he only has a high school degree. He moved out when he was 19 and lived on his own, working 2 jobs. He didn't have time for college, but he is extremely smart.

There are plenty of people with college degrees that went nowhere in life.

chessmaster05 02-17-2017 01:26 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 604524)
It's what fear does, turns people against those 'unlike me'. It's how we're in this sad state of affairs in the 1st place.

Fear turns people into savages! Hehe.

isk84life 02-17-2017 01:27 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acar7 (Post 604591)
Some people choose to go to work, and guess what? They can still get good jobs with just a high school degree.

My fiance got DACA in september and he just got a job at a reputable place that works with people with disabilities. It comes with CPR training, benefits, OSHA classes,etc...

and he only has a high school degree. He moved out when he was 19 and lived on his own, working 2 jobs. He didn't have time for college, but he is extremely smart.

There are plenty of people with college degrees that went nowhere in life.

Lol, you have no idea what is like to have higher education in a STEM field. Lets just say that looking at every single one of my friends and how they are doing without a college education... I would chose to go to college every single time. From knowledge to true satisfaction about the impact that your work is having in millions of peoples lives. I understand some people would rather have simple lives and dont have the brains to go onto college but come on man hahaha.

acar7 02-17-2017 01:34 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 604596)
Lol, you have no idea what is like to have higher education in a STEM field. Lets just say that looking at every single one of my friends and how they are doing without a college education... I would chose to go to college every single time. From knowledge to true satisfaction about the impact that your work is having in millions of peoples lives. I understand some people would rather have simple lives and dont have the brains to go onto college but come on man hahaha.

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

Some of ya'll need some humble pie

"simple lives"...."dont have the brains to go to college"....seriously???

Do you enjoy being THAT judgmental and thinking you're better than everyone? Just remember that the only thing separating you and a "simple person" is a piece of paper that may or may not be taken away. Then you can go work a "simple job" and realize you are not better than everyone else.

fish96 02-17-2017 01:41 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMChump (Post 604516)
Do you feel like you deserve DACA more then a person that just got basic education like High School since you are an engineer?

Trump is a business person. We need to present a strong economic argument. People with higher education on average make more money than those with only a high school degree and thus will end up paying more into the system via taxes. I am sorry but we are not entitled to anything by this country and if we truly want to stay here we have to prove that we are productive and outstanding. I'm tired of hearing the pure humanitarian argument, I'm sorry but we need to start an economic argument to show how much we contribute to the economy and system.

isk84life 02-17-2017 01:46 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acar7 (Post 604598)
:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

Some of ya'll need some humble pie

"simple lives"...."dont have the brains to go to college"....seriously???

Do you enjoy being THAT judgmental and thinking you're better than everyone? Just remember that the only thing separating you and a "simple person" is a piece of paper that may or may not be taken away. Then you can go work a "simple job" and realize you are not better than everyone else.

I never said that. However, I have the knowledge, not just a single paper. I can take it to other countries if things go down the drain. The fact that i believe people with education have a better chance at making a difference, A LOT more money, and live less stressful lives doesn't mean I think I'm better. I'm just saying that there are people that do not want complications or go through the whole trouble of going to college for 6 years ... and thats fine. Some other people just dont have the brains... I'm not discovering anything new here.

complicatedc33 02-17-2017 01:50 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Speaking of college, do you guys remember that story about the DACA recipient suing Wells Fargo because they won't give her that loan for college. Without it she cant attend school. There are obstacles clearly. I understand no excuses, but this just makes it that much harder.

libertarian1776 02-17-2017 01:53 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
you know how hard it was to go through 6 years of college and masters? sorry but people who put in the time on their education and work experience has a better resume are looked on a higher regard than those who don't. if DACA doesnt work out here for us, im pretty sure other countries will take a look at them and take them in.

There is always someone bigger, tougher, and stronger than you. But as disheartening as that sounds there are always equalizers to level the playing field. Training, intelligence, grit, and work ethic can help get you out of situations where a normal person would fail. Always be looking for that edge that will allow you to prevail.

sorry, that's fucking life. for those of us climbing to the top of the food chain, there can be no mercy. There is but one rule: hunt or be hunted. ya'll gotta be ruthless in life man, take your shit everyday.

and please don't give me shit about caring about other dreamers getting arrested and play the noble hero promoting equality, no such thing in our case. i'm sure your worried about feeding and providing for yourself and family first.

Charolastra 02-17-2017 01:58 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
How incredibly stupid. The people defending this guy are playing right into the hands of the right-wing jerkoffs. When you're a young undocumented person, you KNOW you have to stay not only out of trouble, but away from it.

And having a kid at 23? In a situation like ours? Hahahaha give me a break.

acar7 02-17-2017 02:06 AM

Re: US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo
 
Am i in a Fox news message board??

You people are so judgmental. Now you're complaining about people having kids at 23?? I guess that means they are failures in life, right?

And honestly who gives a shit about a degree if you have a good job? It is possible to get a good job with just a high school degree. Its called working your way up.

But I guess according to most people here, everyone has to be an engineer or a scientist to be considered successful


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