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2MoreYears 12-01-2017 02:17 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 656013)
@jaketapper
Jake Tapper Retweeted Jake Tapper
2/ Flake spokesman @Jason_Samuels tells me that the DACA commitment came directly from @VP Pence.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...51436636737536

I don't know what to think. If there's a commitment then pass DA along tax bill together at the same time, not after.

Trump administration is well know for flaking out on everything, and a commitment from Pence doesn't mean much.

Let's see how the cards are played out by everyone.

JayR9 12-01-2017 02:18 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
lol assurance doesn't mean shit...need it in writing

libertarian1776 12-01-2017 02:18 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
so in theory for us who already qualify can cut the 10 year to 5?

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 656022)
Under the current text the maximum period of conditional permanent residency is 10 years. Initial grant of 5 years, and then an extension for 5 years if you need it. They give you a lot of time to get the requirements done.

There is no minimum time requirement to file for removal of conditions in this case, and as with any other removal of conditions your time as a CPR counts for naturalization purposes. So for those of us who already qualify the process would look like this.

Apply for conditional permanent residency -> (wait however long to be approved, get an EAD in the meantime) -> Get conditional Green Card valid for 5 years -> File for removal of conditions right off the bat -> (wait however long it takes them to approve that) -> (5 years (or 3 if you're married to a USC) from your Resident Since Date - 90 days) - file N-400 for naturalization.


Demise 12-01-2017 02:19 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 656023)
I don't know what to think. If there's a commitment then pass DA along tax bill together at the same time, not after.

Trump administration is well know for flaking out on everything, and a commitment from Pence doesn't mean much.

Let's see how the cards are played out by everyone.

DA will go with the budget, not the tax bill, tax bill they will ram through with reconciliation (50 votes required), budget will need 60 since even though budget itself can pass under reconciliation, there's no way to put debt ceiling increase over that.

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 656025)
so in theory for us who already qualify can cut the 10 year to 5?

Yes for citizenship. If you're married to a USC then even 3.

Naturalization via military is a little murky right now since the who bills differ in those sections. RACA has a section says that you can naturalize under INA 328 and 329. DA doesn't. Both have requirements to remove conditions before you can naturalize.

Thing to consider is that under Dream Act most of us will be eligible to be citizens in 5 years from the date the initial application is approved.

Swim19 12-01-2017 02:21 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 656025)
so in theory for us who already qualify can cut the 10 year to 5?

I thought the conditional permanent residence was for a period of 8 years...at least that's what the DREAM Act text says.

2MoreYears 12-01-2017 02:21 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 656025)
so in theory for us who already qualify can cut the 10 year to 5?

I'm not worried about the details right know. We need DA passed first.

Demise 12-01-2017 02:25 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 656028)
I thought the conditional permanent residence was for a period of 8 years...at least that's what the DREAM Act text says.

They might differ a bit. Still, both let you remove conditions as soon as you meet the requirements without some mandatory wait times.

dtrt09 12-01-2017 02:27 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
This is not right. Democrats and Obama were "committed" to pass DA and CIR: words ared not deeds.

Fuck no. Attach DreamAct to the tax bill. Pence cannot make DreamAct happen.

2MoreYears 12-01-2017 02:29 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 656030)
They might differ a bit. Still, both let you remove conditions as soon as you meet the requirements without some mandatory wait times.

OK You guys got me thinking. 5 years wait for citizenship sounds awesome!!

Swim19 12-01-2017 02:30 PM

Re: Jeff Flake votes YES on TAX - Got Assurance on DACA!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 656030)
They might differ a bit. Still, both let you remove conditions as soon as you meet the requirements without some mandatory wait times.

I see what you mean.


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