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Pianoswithoutfaith 01-28-2018 08:03 AM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
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Originally Posted by dreamer__13 (Post 682897)
You don’t think that the Democrats are just playing politics with us?


Which party is actively trying to deport us and making life hard for us?

Which party gave you DACA?

Which party voted 36 votes against DA in 2010?

"5 democrats voted against DA!! these TRAITORS!!"

"Oh 3 Republican voted Yes for it!? These SAVIORS!!! GOD BLESS THEM!!"

Which house leader refused to put a CIR bill to vote in 2013? And which party did he belong to?



What about the CIR in 2006? Which House leader refused to put it up for vote? Oh wow another republican




http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...55C0A9609C8B63

Quote:

''We are going to listen to the American people, and we are going to get a bill that is right,'' said Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, who said he had informed Mr. Bush of the plan.

oh wow sounds familiar?

"Democrats couldn't do it!! so Us Republicans are going to do it right"!


This same shit has been echoed for years by the Republicans who so far haven't done anything to help us.

Swim19 01-28-2018 10:52 AM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer__13 (Post 682888)
I don’t even want to side with him but he has a point. Democrats have already rejected a framework that could easily be changed. Makes it seem like they just want to use us for midterms. I hope they prove the world wrong because right now I’m losing faith in them really wanting to help us.

It can be argued the Democrats (at least some) are using us for votes. Let's not pretend that Trump and the GOP aren't using us to get what they want. Trump is holding the DACA issue hostage for the wall. Miller, Cotton, & very right wing of the GOP (including Ryan) are holding us hostage for more internal inforcement and major cuts to legal immigration.

Trump could end this tomorrow by agreeing to a narrow compromise DREAM Act + Border Security.

And if you were really serious about this, Trump - how about calling a meeting with Schumer & Pelosi (without Miller, Cotton, & Kelly and that includes not speaking with them after you've agreed to a deal so that they don't change your mind) and really negotiate instead of ranting on twitter?

JayR9 01-28-2018 11:23 AM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 682949)
Which party is actively trying to deport us and making life hard for us?

Which party gave you DACA?

Which party voted 36 votes against DA in 2010?

"5 democrats voted against DA!! these TRAITORS!!"

"Oh 3 Republican voted Yes for it!? These SAVIORS!!! GOD BLESS THEM!!"

Which house leader refused to put a CIR bill to vote in 2013? And which party did he belong to?



What about the CIR in 2006? Which House leader refused to put it up for vote? Oh wow another republican




http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...55C0A9609C8B63




oh wow sounds familiar?

"Democrats couldn't do it!! so Us Republicans are going to do it right"!


This same shit has been echoed for years by the Republicans who so far haven't done anything to help us.

Exactly, the double standard is unreal with some dreamers here

Alfredo93 01-28-2018 12:29 PM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
Everyone looked down on me for being Republican.
I've been knowing we were a tool for the Democrats since Obamas presidency.

Alfredo93 01-28-2018 12:30 PM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlo (Post 682912)
If it were only the wall he would have agreed to Schumer's offer of fully funding the border wall during the shutdown. You do know there's a lot more than that that he's asking for right?

Schumer offered 1.6 billion, added TPS, and Relief for our parents.

Alfredo93 01-28-2018 12:34 PM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
I would be respecting democrats more if they picked what they dont like about Trumps framework and say theyre gonna work together with Trump.

Instead all they do is talk shit on Twitter and try to look good for the Bernie supporters. Wake up. They dont want to lose their voter base!

Swim19 01-28-2018 12:46 PM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfredo93 (Post 682981)
I would be respecting democrats more if they picked what they dont like about Trumps framework and say theyre gonna work together with Trump.

Instead all they do is talk shit on Twitter and try to look good for the Bernie supporters. Wake up. They dont want to lose their voter base!

Actually they have brought up what they don't like - upending family migration, massive cuts to legal immigration, and internal enforcement.

It's the same as the GOP saying Durbin/Graham bill is a nonstarter. The GOP could also say what they don't like about that framework and then work together. It's on both sides.

jaylove16 01-28-2018 12:54 PM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
Face The Nation
@FaceTheNation
.@Marcshort45 on immigration: If you just do border security and DACA, all you do is create an incentive for more people to try and flood the border.
11:39 AM · Jan 28, 2018

unthinkable 01-28-2018 01:01 PM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 682947)
Makes sense. A large portion of Dreamers have indigenous blood and some can be considered legitimate Native Americans.

Every time I come across your posts, it's always "native american this, indigenous blood that, etc". Are you some sort of a wannabe Pocahontas or are you actually a native? Just curious to see if you are pulling another Elizabeth Warren or not.

SurfyB 01-28-2018 01:13 PM

Re: Donald Trump Tweets!
 
I don't have Twitter, but are you guys really trying to trend that? Seems like a great fucking idea, specially since we're dealing with a narcissist, and according to psychologists people with narcissistic personality are easily manipulated by people who make them feel special ( See Miller CNN interview), even senator Graham does this when he twitts @DT


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