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Swim19 02-06-2018 09:13 PM
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@BresPolitico
House Democrats decide against going to Eastern Shore of Maryland for their annual retreat, will hold it in Capitol instead

jorgeag92 02-06-2018 09:36 PM
Re: GOP senators turning Trump immigration framework into legislation
 
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Originally Posted by NotADreamerPerSe (Post 686799)
No? that's creating a second class of citizens. A citizen should have the rights of a citizen.
What's next? naturalized citizens shouldn't be able to vote? Let's not go down that road.
Naturalized citizens cannot become president of the U.S. I dont see anyone complaining about that. They can also be deported under VERY specific situations (such as providing false information to the govt prior to becoming a citizen). This would just add one more thing to the list

Chn 02-06-2018 09:41 PM
Re: GOP senators turning Trump immigration framework into legislation
 
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Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 686824)
Naturalized citizens cannot become president of the U.S. I dont see anyone complaining about that. This would just add one more thing to the list
That's because the constitution explicitly states that the President must be a natural born citizen.

What you're suggesting probably violates the equal protection clause, which is also included in the constitution.

catportal 02-06-2018 10:00 PM
Re: GOP senators turning Trump immigration framework into legislation
 
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Originally Posted by Chn (Post 686826)
That's because the constitution explicitly states that the President must be a natural born citizen.

What you're suggesting probably violates the equal protection clause, which is also included in the constitution.
The constitution also includes the 3/5ths compromise, either way the President must be a natural born citizen has not been challenged in court, and I suspect it will eventually be deemed unconstitutional.

Chn 02-06-2018 10:15 PM
Re: GOP senators turning Trump immigration framework into legislation
 
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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 686834)
The constitution also includes the 3/5ths compromise, either way the President must be a natural born citizen has not been challenged in court, and I suspect it will eventually be deemed unconstitutional.
3/5ths compromise, seriously? Which was superseded by the 14th amendment which includes all the good stuff about equal protection.

And the natural born citizen provision being ruled unconstitutional? You can't have something be unconstitutional if it's literally in the constitution. It's not some interpretation of an aspect in the constitution, it's literally in the constitution.

I swear... Some of you guys.

NotADreamerPerSe 02-06-2018 11:07 PM
Re: GOP senators turning Trump immigration framework into legislation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 686824)
Naturalized citizens cannot become president of the U.S. I dont see anyone complaining about that. They can also be deported under VERY specific situations (such as providing false information to the govt prior to becoming a citizen). This would just add one more thing to the list
Your argument doesn't change the fact that you, an illegal, want to take away a citizen's right for your own benefit.

Either way it's not up to you or me for that matter.

pablo4k 02-06-2018 11:22 PM
Re: GOP senators turning Trump immigration framework into legislation
 
Anybody knows what is the age gap to the proposals being discussed? Is it 16 or 18?

catportal 02-07-2018 01:02 PM
Re: GOP senators turning Trump immigration framework into legislation
 
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Originally Posted by Chn (Post 686840)
3/5ths compromise, seriously? Which was superseded by the 14th amendment which includes all the good stuff about equal protection.

And the natural born citizen provision being ruled unconstitutional? You can't have something be unconstitutional if it's literally in the constitution. It's not some interpretation of an aspect in the constitution, it's literally in the constitution.

I swear... Some of you guys.
And what makes you think 14th amendment can't be used for becoming president? Like I said it hasn't been challenged in court.


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