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jwxie518 01-08-2019 10:47 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 726501)
That's what this speech was mostly for - the skittish GOP. Trump can't afford for the GOP to side with Democrats and override his veto.

There will be no veto from congress. RPs will not abandon Trump.

jwxie518 01-08-2019 10:48 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
Prediction: nothing for us!

Red neck 01-08-2019 10:49 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
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Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 726494)
I've been hurt too many times to believe this. Where is your evidence?

Trump will not sign it without border wall funding.
I think this is trumps strategy.
Right now he wants his funding for the wall in exchange for asylum reform and tps.
Then scotus daca for cutting legal immigration

cmeow 01-08-2019 10:49 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
Yeah, honestly the shutdown looks like it'll go on for at least another day or two.

At least leaders in congress will meet tomorrow.

cmeow 01-08-2019 10:51 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 726519)
Trump will not sign it without border wall funding.
I think this is trumps strategy.
Right now he wants his funding for the wall in exchange for asylum reform and tps.
Then scotus daca for cutting legal immigration

What do you mean asylum reform? Democrats don't want to change asylum laws, it's the republicans that do because they want less people to apply for it.

That just leaves TPS, you think democrats will give him full wall funding just for TPS?

dreamer12345 01-08-2019 10:56 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 726213)
Translation, he's going to back down

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 726215)
I dont know how you got the opposite of what he said. Don't add your own implicit biases, cause they tend to show like the yellow of a formerly white carpet.

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Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 726225)
I guess you haven't been paying attention then.

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Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 726229)
If you seriously think he is backing down you are delusional. He is about to declare a national emergency and you think he's backing down? LOL? Are you kidding me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 726230)
he said so, so it must be true
protip: never play poker, children will take your money

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 726231)
So now all you have is stupid fallacies and overly broad statements. Yawn. Just admit you're wrong, it'll do you good.

People have been saying he's gonna cave for over two weeks, but just like predictions of the elections, they and you, are WRONG.

You are right about him caving, caving to those who say get more money for more wall. Now instead of 5.7 Billion he went up to 10 Billion. Woops sure caved.

Protip: Did you go to school to be dumb or are you a natural? Do you understand things arent binary? Do you understand nuance?

Please see the trees in the forest.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...nation-n956466

Trump did not declare a national emergency, which he previously suggested he had the authority to do to build the wall.

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cmeow 01-08-2019 10:57 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
Schumer also said something along the lines of America should not be remembered for the wall but for the statue of liberty.

Statue of liberty usually refers to refugees / immigration in general so I think the immigration topic is on the dems' minds.

Red neck 01-08-2019 10:58 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmeow (Post 726521)
What do you mean asylum reform? Democrats don't want to change asylum laws, it's the republicans that do because they want less people to apply for it.

That just leaves TPS, you think democrats will give him full wall funding just for TPS?

I read somewhere I think I posted it too. Where republicans asked for the 5.8 billion plus another 5 billion for other things in exchange for asylum and tps.

They are trying to sweeten the deal like last time for chip.

But I think trump would accept daca for everything he is along for. The problem is miller wants to wait for scotus

PhelonOne87 01-08-2019 11:01 PM

Re: Trump speech
 
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PhelonOne87 01-08-2019 11:02 PM

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