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hayire 01-25-2017 10:14 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WallStreetDreamer (Post 599265)
Sincerest apologies dude. Im not yelling, im just sick and tired of so many people being so negative. We're all gonna be fine! Trust me. Spice, himself, said that Trump is a "family man", he understands what we're going through.

That piece of paper was put into play 1/23/17. For all it could be, it could've been a draft created months ago, but scrapped due to the realization by the administration that is not feasible. We need to be realistic and not worry, and use what we currently have, not just pear speculation.

This is what we currently have:

TRUMP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE DACA ISSUE

HE HAS NOT CANCELLED IT ON DAY 1 LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD

HE TOLD US WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE

RYAN HAS CONFIRMED THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

SPICE HAS SAID TRUMP IS A FAMILY MAN AND THEIR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TARGET INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE CRIMINAL OFFENSES




We are speculating on a damn "leaked" document that has not been confirmed by the administration and has been outdated. If it was given a future date, i would definitely understand, but its been scrapped since its outdated. Guys, we need to remain calm!
Amen!!!!!

soypana 01-25-2017 10:15 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 599249)
Ni modos, aunque este media feita la morra pero tendré que buscarme una para casarme.:-(
Habra que hablarle a la gordita que siempre ignore :lol:.. Ojala que todavia este soltera jaja

legendver2 01-25-2017 10:17 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WallStreetDreamer (Post 599265)
This is what we currently have:

TRUMP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE DACA ISSUE

HE HAS NOT CANCELLED IT ON DAY 1 LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD

HE TOLD US WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE

RYAN HAS CONFIRMED THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

SPICE HAS SAID TRUMP IS A FAMILY MAN AND THEIR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TARGET INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE CRIMINAL OFFENSES




We are speculating on a damn "leaked" document that has not been confirmed by the administration and has been outdated. If it was given a future date, i would definitely understand, but its been scrapped since its outdated. Guys, we need to remain calm!
Ryan said no deportation force, Trump sign's a deportation force.

Spicer said they will focus on criminals, the new ICE EO pretty much includes all of us as criminals by their new definitions.

Ianus 01-25-2017 10:17 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by g33k (Post 599264)
Is that the one that comes with the Uvisa?
No, the I-601A is a waiver that forgives unlawful presence. It allows you to wait out the waiver process inside the United States. It is actually one of Obama's executive actions that keeps families together. Before, the I-601 required an individual to be in their country of origin.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-25-2017 10:19 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WallStreetDreamer (Post 599265)
Sincerest apologies dude. Im not yelling, im just sick and tired of so many people being so negative. We're all gonna be fine! Trust me. Spice, himself, said that Trump is a "family man", he understands what we're going through.

That piece of paper was put into play 1/23/17. For all it could be, it could've been a draft created months ago, but scrapped due to the realization by the administration that is not feasible. We need to be realistic and not worry, and use what we currently have, not just pear speculation.

This is what we currently have:

TRUMP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE DACA ISSUE

HE HAS NOT CANCELLED IT ON DAY 1 LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD

HE TOLD US WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE

RYAN HAS CONFIRMED THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

SPICE HAS SAID TRUMP IS A FAMILY MAN AND THEIR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TARGET INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE CRIMINAL OFFENSES




We are speculating on a damn "leaked" document that has not been confirmed by the administration and has been outdated. If it was given a future date, i would definitely understand, but its been scrapped since its outdated. Guys, we need to remain calm!

Man both sides have have equal rights to be freaked out or be relaxed.

bernie925 01-25-2017 10:19 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WallStreetDreamer (Post 599265)
Sincerest apologies dude. Im not yelling, im just sick and tired of so many people being so negative. We're all gonna be fine! Trust me. Spice, himself, said that Trump is a "family man", he understands what we're going through.

That piece of paper was put into play 1/23/17. For all it could be, it could've been a draft created months ago, but scrapped due to the realization by the administration that is not feasible. We need to be realistic and not worry, and use what we currently have, not just pear speculation.

This is what we currently have:

TRUMP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE DACA ISSUE

HE HAS NOT CANCELLED IT ON DAY 1 LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD

HE TOLD US WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE

RYAN HAS CONFIRMED THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

SPICE HAS SAID TRUMP IS A FAMILY MAN AND THEIR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TARGET INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE CRIMINAL OFFENSES




We are speculating on a damn "leaked" document that has not been confirmed by the administration and has been outdated. If it was given a future date, i would definitely understand, but its been scrapped since its outdated. Guys, we need to remain calm!
THANK YOU! We need to stop stressing ourselves until we have something concrete

WallStreetDreamer 01-25-2017 10:20 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 599270)
Ryan said no deportation force, Trump sign's a deportation force.

Spicer said they will focus on criminals, the new ICE EO pretty much includes all of us as criminals by their new definitions.
No, not all of us... speak for yourself dude. some of us have no criminal offenses. Spice said we are lowest priority for deportation. Ryan did not say "no deportation force" for criminal illegal alliens.

what are you on about

eva02 01-25-2017 10:21 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
So are we having a Trump interview party? Someone make the thread with a link to a livestream

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-25-2017 10:22 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 599277)
So are we having a Trump interview party? Someone make the thread with a link to a livestream
Why not come back to the discord. It's bigger now

soypana 01-25-2017 10:24 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 599279)
Why not come back to the discord. It's bigger now
What's the discord code man

lakers1824 01-25-2017 10:25 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
I think it's fair to say Trump didn't mention DACA or he avoided answering the question completely. If he had come out and said I am going to cancel DACA in the next few days some news network would have already reported.

legendver2 01-25-2017 10:25 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WallStreetDreamer (Post 599276)
No, not all of us... speak for yourself dude. some of us have no criminal offenses. Spice said we are lowest priority for deportation. Ryan did not say "no deportation force" for criminal illegal alliens.

what are you on about
In their enforcement priorities list:
(c) Have committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense;

Illegal entry is a chargeable offense.

(e) Have abused any program related to receipt of public benefits;

That can pose a problem for overstays (me). With those two, they pretty much covered us all. And if not, there's always this last catch all:

(g) In the judgment of an immigration officer, otherwise pose a risk to public safety or national security.

So anyone they *think* poses a risk, so it's pretty much at their discretion. You can say we're protected by DACA, but do you think that'll stop ICE officers if they're a big enough assholes? Everything is up to them on what they consider is a crime. This also put's our parents at risk as well. Once DACA is gone, which is a possibility, it's open season on us even if we still have EAD.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-25-2017 10:28 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by soypana (Post 599284)
What's the discord code man
https://discord.gg/7ARyk

JJ Glo 01-25-2017 10:29 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by soypana (Post 599268)
Habra que hablarle a la gordita que siempre ignore :lol:.. Ojala que todavia este soltera jaja
Jaja. Ni modos carnal. Lo que sea por los papeles. :grin:

MIdreamer 01-25-2017 10:36 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
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Another would undo relief Obama has granted to people eligible for green cards but unable to apply for them due to what’s known as the “three- and ten-year bars.”
I think it is over for I601A. No more ban wavier.

jaylove16 01-25-2017 10:40 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
In a way doesn't this put intense political pressure for congress to act? Regardless, every one should find a serious girlfriend and go the marriage route.

g33k 01-25-2017 10:41 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 599288)
Jaja. Ni modos carnal. Lo que sea por los papeles. :grin:
Hasta con un vato

WallStreetDreamer 01-25-2017 10:42 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 599286)
In their enforcement priorities list:
(c) Have committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense;

Illegal entry is a chargeable offense.

(e) Have abused any program related to receipt of public benefits;

That can pose a problem for overstays (me). With those two, they pretty much covered us all. And if not, there's always this last catch all:

(g) In the judgment of an immigration officer, otherwise pose a risk to public safety or national security.

So anyone they *think* poses a risk, so it's pretty much at their discretion. You can say we're protected by DACA, but do you think that'll stop ICE officers if they're a big enough assholes? Everything is up to them on what they consider is a crime. This also put's our parents at risk as well. Once DACA is gone, which is a possibility, it's open season on us even if we still have EAD.

I am an expired Visa. Wow, did you just say, You can say we're protected by DACA, but do you think that'll stop ICE officers if they're a big enough assholes? Everything is up to them on what they consider is a crime. This also put's our parents at risk as well.

Regardless of what you think, there are laws, and there are balances of power. It is sent in stone that we have deportation reprieve if DACA maintains its course of actions. I find it very hard to believe that Trump will send those protected by DACA back. Again, you are not understanding what others in his administration have said about us.

I went to counselling today to deal with anxiety related to personal issues. My psychologist told me one sympton of anxiety is that you tend to think unrealistic thoughts and let that control your mind. Seems very similair to what you are doing my friend. Try something called mindful meditation. Live life, and stop worrying about something out of your control. Just know that we will be fine. Im making this sheer assumption based off of what i heard, not fake, leaked information and unconfirmed facts.

MIdreamer 01-25-2017 10:42 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 599297)
In a way doesn't this put intense political pressure for congress to act? Regardless, every one should find a serious girlfriend and go the marriage route.
Not an option for majority of us since we EWI.

legendver2 01-25-2017 10:46 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WallStreetDreamer (Post 599300)
I am an expired Visa. Wow, did you just say, You can say we're protected by DACA, but do you think that'll stop ICE officers if they're a big enough assholes? Everything is up to them on what they consider is a crime. This also put's our parents at risk as well.

Regardless of what you think, there are laws, and there are balances of power. It is sent in stone that we have deportation reprieve if DACA maintains its course of actions. I find it very hard to believe that Trump will send those protected by DACA back. Again, you are not understanding what others in his administration have said about us.

I went to counselling today to deal with anxiety related to personal issues. My psychologist told me one sympton of anxiety is that you tend to think unrealistic thoughts and let that control your mind. Seems very similair to what you are doing my friend. Try something called mindful meditation. Live life, and stop worrying about something out of your control. Just know that we will be fine. Im making this sheer assumption based off of what i heard, not fake, leaked information and unconfirmed facts.
There is still no word on authenticity of the document, except that vox said previous leaked documents matched the ones he signed in the end, so that does give the leak some credibility.

Swim19 01-25-2017 10:47 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 599302)
There is still no word on authenticity of the document, except that vox said previous leaked documents matched the ones he signed in the end, so that does give the leak some credibility.
I'm surprised no one else is reporting on it yet.

beingoflight 01-25-2017 11:05 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Kind of scary guys, imagine the suicide wave :(

Outsider626 01-25-2017 11:05 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
He said they will come up with policy in the next 4 weeks. We can breath for a month!

WallStreetDreamer 01-25-2017 11:07 PM
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He said "WE SHOULDNT BE WORRIED" He also said "we have a big heart"

eva02 01-25-2017 11:08 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
There was an account called whitehouseleaks that said bannon was the only one pushing for DACa to be ended while trump and pence did not. The account has been deleted off twitter

libertarian1776 01-25-2017 11:08 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
he also said we're here illegally. lmaooo idk how to get a read on this guy! SAD!

Quote:
Originally Posted by WallStreetDreamer (Post 599313)
He said "WE SHOULDNT BE WORRIED" He also said "we have a big heart"

eva02 01-25-2017 11:10 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
https://mobile.twitter.com/gabriella...53491062083584

libertarian1776 01-25-2017 11:18 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
can you elaborate on it more?

Quote:
Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 599316)
There was an account called whitehouseleaks that said bannon was the only one pushing for DACa to be ended while trump and pence did not. The account has been deleted off twitter

SurfyB 01-25-2017 11:32 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Mine expires july, already sebt renewal, hopefully it gets in before this happens i could do 2 extra years.

soypana 01-25-2017 11:34 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 599331)
can you elaborate on it more?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3EON1EVMAElKrF.jpg

dtrt09 01-25-2017 11:36 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
DACA eo draft...

https://t.co/WfzyWVUOio

Why not try to work out a legalization program with Congress in the next few months and take the opportunity to create a fair legalization program accross the population instead of targeting long-time undocumented residents?

legendver2 01-25-2017 11:39 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Maybe that's what the next 4 weeks are for.

JJ Glo 01-25-2017 11:55 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by g33k (Post 599298)
Hasta con un vato
No mames jaja. Primero me salgo para México yo solito. No offense a los LGBT. :mrgreen:

JJ Glo 01-25-2017 11:57 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
4 weeks?

Is that enough time for a bill to be passed?

lakers1824 01-26-2017 12:02 AM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 599365)
DACA eo draft...

https://t.co/WfzyWVUOio

Why not try to work out a legalization program with Congress in the next few months and take the opportunity to create a fair legalization program accross the population instead of targeting long-time undocumented residents?
I think the draft was drafted but Trump didn't want to sign it. He may have delayed it for further discussion. I am sure there are a lot of executive orders being made right now for all kinds of issues and I am sure Trump will not sign all of them. I am praying that on his state of the union address, he calls for a legalization of us dreamers.

JJ Glo 01-26-2017 12:04 AM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lakers1824 (Post 599394)
I think the draft was drafted but Trump didn't want to sign it. He may have delayed it for further discussion. I am sure there are a lot of executive orders being made right now for all kinds of issues and I am sure Trump will not sign all of them. I am praying that on his state of the union address, he calls for a legalization of us dreamers.
I'm guessing that's what it was. It might have been a legit draft, but it doesn't mean Trump would sign it, or obviously he would have done it today. Unless he is saving the draft until he announces his new plan for what he intends to do with us.

g33k 01-26-2017 12:06 AM
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The white old farts must be mad that we have 4 more weeks.

DACA-IR-DA 01-26-2017 02:40 AM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 599042)
TIll this day I have not forgotten about you Aman brahhh. You're one of the veteran dreamers who aged out. We had our little skirmish but I am still adamant and hopeful for an overarching solution going forward.
This ends the 2014 EO? It was 4-4 in SC.

newAcc 01-26-2017 04:37 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 599398)
I'm guessing that's what it was. It might have been a legit draft, but it doesn't mean Trump would sign it, or obviously he would have done it today. Unless he is saving the draft until he announces his new plan for what he intends to do with us.

I've been thinking about this. I'm pretty sure DACA won't be removed at least any time soon unlike what I said previously in the thread. The best time for him to remove DACA was yesterday with all the other immigration executive orders that was grouped in yesterday. So I think we're safe for now

jrpallares 01-26-2017 07:00 PM
Re: Leaked EO drafts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newAcc (Post 599633)
I've been thinking about this. I'm pretty sure DACA won't be removed at least any time soon unlike what I said previously in the thread. The best time for him to remove DACA was yesterday with all the other immigration executive orders that was grouped in yesterday. So I think we're safe for now
this is true and makes total sense. if you ignore your anxiety and the irrationality it brings out.


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