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BeansDreamtoo21 11-26-2017 03:47 AM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 654303)
stopped reading right here.
read this back to yourself and see how ridiculous it sounds.
how in god's name are they not different?
and are you saying a 17 year old can't make the decision of crossing illegally?
wtf?

Yeah whatever im not gonna keep arguing like our ilegallass opinion would change anything.
My point is that instead of hoping they disqualify people because of their age you should be hoping more people in your same situation gets some sort of relief. But thats just me.
Are you scared the number of beneficiaries is too high it will get discarded?

jaylove16 11-26-2017 08:35 AM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 654303)
stopped reading right here.
read this back to yourself and see how ridiculous it sounds.
how in god's name are they not different?
and are you saying a 17 year old can't make the decision of crossing illegally?
wtf?

So you expect a 16 or 17 year old to stay back in his home country and fend for themselves? They will have no choice but to cross over with their family. You make no sense ! Were you independent and providing for yourself when you were that age?

BeeHive 11-26-2017 10:32 AM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 654309)
So you expect a 16 or 17 year old to stay back in his home country and fend for themselves? They will have no choice but to cross over with their family. You make no sense ! Were you independent and providing for yourself when you were that age?

Many kids at 17 or 16 were providing themselves in my neighborhood. Did you ever live in the hood? Moms used to make the kids sell drugs to be able to support the house.

I'm okay with a 16 year old getting dream act as long as they have been here 5 years and before 2012. I think that's the dream act rules. Or am I confusing it with DACA?

JayR9 11-26-2017 11:19 AM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 654291)
I am going by UWD's definition of clean Dream Act. Legalizing dreamers without giving Republicans ANY of their border security demands.

If Dream Act was stand alone bill, I would say they would be dreaming. But now that the Republicans punted DA till the spending bill they have significantly less leverage. Last government shutdown cost $24 billion for 16 days. Republicans and Trump will have a hard time selling that the government shutdown was Democrats fault during election years. There is still need to be compromise but Republicans don't have a great hand when it comes to the spending bill.

JayR9 11-26-2017 11:26 AM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by BeeHive (Post 654315)
Many kids at 17 or 16 were providing themselves in my neighborhood. Did you ever live in the hood? Moms used to make the kids sell drugs to be able to support the house.

I'm okay with a 16 year old getting dream act as long as they have been here 5 years and before 2012. I think that's the dream act rules. Or am I confusing it with DACA?

Not everyone grows up in the hood or sell drugs. I know people in their twenties who can't think and provide for themselves.

fl_dreamer 11-26-2017 12:50 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
Oh lord! You guys arguing and fighting like any of us have a choice in any of this. Our fate will be decided for us! It’s the sad truth so hold onto your seats as we go through this roller coaster together!

BeeHive 11-26-2017 01:01 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 654323)
Not everyone grows up in the hood or sell drugs. I know people in their twenties who can't think and provide for themselves.

Unfortunately no one ask about 20 year old who can't provide for themselves. OP asked about 16 or 17 if he or she provided for themselves.

jaylove16 11-26-2017 03:39 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by BeeHive (Post 654331)
Unfortunately no one ask about 20 year old who can't provide for themselves. OP asked about 16 or 17 if he or she provided for themselves.

Does it even matter? If a 20 year old can’t even provide for themselves, then what makes you think a minor (18 and under ) could? . I’m done with this conversation!

JayR9 11-26-2017 05:31 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by BeeHive (Post 654331)
Unfortunately no one ask about 20 year old who can't provide for themselves. OP asked about 16 or 17 if he or she provided for themselves.

Unfortunately nobody asked about 17 year old drug dealers in the hood

g33k 11-26-2017 06:19 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 654352)
Does it even matter? If a 20 year old can’t even provide for themselves, then what makes you think a minor (18 and under ) could? . I’m done with this conversation!

It depends on person. There are a lot of 16 year olds that come just to work. They work at anything they can find, from car wash to dishwasher to selling on the streets.


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