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DACA-IR-DA 02-15-2018 08:49 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Aged out Dreamers covered?

BeansDreamtoo21 02-15-2018 08:50 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 691598)
Aged out Dreamers covered?

No it's trash

VeryNicePerson1 02-15-2018 10:20 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
OK, seriously...I have a question...after this total shitfest of a "Immigration bill process"...

...What are the chances that the Dems threaten another shutdown and stick to it this time to get a full on Dream Act + Border Wall?

Like seriously...is there any inkling of a chance...just to get the Dreamer thing done NOW...that they go all in for the Dreamers.

IMO, I think it is a pipe dream, as shutting down the government again for Dreamers sounds like a bad idea...but seriously...what are the damn chances...someone please enlighten me!!! lol...

VeryNicePerson1 02-15-2018 10:22 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Oh btw, if the Dems even entertain the thought of giving any kind of Border Wall money for some bullshit DACA extension...then they do not deserve to have political power IMO...

versailles 02-15-2018 10:25 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 691659)
OK, seriously...I have a question...after this total shitfest of a "Immigration bill process"...

...What are the chances that the Dems threaten another shutdown and stick to it this time to get a full on Dream Act + Border Wall?

Like seriously...is there any inkling of a chance...just to get the Dreamer thing done NOW...that they go all in for the Dreamers.

IMO, I think it is a pipe dream, as shutting down the government again for Dreamers sounds like a bad idea...but seriously...what are the damn chances...someone please enlighten me!!! lol...

0%.
they have no balls, but are smart enough to know doing that would be the nail in the already dug coffin in midterms.
repubs already have a lead in the polls, dems will not do anything else to fuck with that.
unfortunately that also means they will not negotiate for a true bipartisan deal that both sides can benefit from, precisely because it just gives repubs more to celebrate over, and more momentum.
what they don't understand is that their carelessness in getting anything done, will just sway moderates over to populist repubs, and the independents are already more than fed up with them.

versailles 02-15-2018 10:30 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 691661)
0%.
they have no balls, but are smart enough to know doing that would be the nail in the already dug coffin in midterms.
repubs already have a lead in the polls, dems will not do anything else to fuck with that.
unfortunately that also means they will not negotiate for a true bipartisan deal that both sides can benefit from, precisely because it just gives repubs more to celebrate over, and more momentum.
what they don't understand is that their carelessness in getting anything done, will just sway moderates over to populist repubs, and the independents are already more than fed up with them.

in short, dems are fucked either way.
but if they actually cared in any way about us, like some people here seem to think they do, they would've had said fuck it and conceded to get closer to a bill that would've stood a chance in the house.

VeryNicePerson1 02-15-2018 10:34 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 691661)
0%.
they have no balls, but are smart enough to know doing that would be the nail in the already dug coffin in midterms.
repubs already have a lead in the polls, dems will not do anything else to fuck with that.
unfortunately that also means they will not negotiate for a true bipartisan deal that both sides can benefit from, precisely because it just gives repubs more to celebrate over, and more momentum.
what they don't understand is that their carelessness in getting anything done, will just sway moderates over to populist repubs, and the independents are already more than fed up with them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by versailles (Post 691664)
in short, dems are fucked either way.
but if they actually cared in any way about us, like some people here seem to think they do, they would've had said fuck it and conceded to get closer to a bill that would've stood a chance in the house.

Ahhhhh, something has GOT TO FUCKING GIVE!!!!

:-|:-|

:sad::sad:

Jsonkim88 02-15-2018 11:03 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CUSenior (Post 691487)
Fuck this bill. If it passes, I’m not applying for it. I’m not giving the US another cent.

Holding you hostage on this.

CUSenior 02-15-2018 11:27 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
Don’t worry. I’m sorry but imo, anyone who would take advantage of this program really doesn’t seem to have any dignity for themselves.

sldkfj 02-15-2018 11:41 PM

Re: New Garbage Bill Introduced
 
https://www.thune.senate.gov/public/...7.ros18170.pdf

Garbage Bill Text


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