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Smooth 02-26-2017 06:06 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by moto (Post 606508)
Obama excluded people with more than two serious misdemeanors and rightfully so. He excluded people over 31 god knows why
Demanding all or nothing from trump is gonna result in slap in the face.

Exactly.

Hell, I even remember a tough family situation that serves as an example to your central point. One dreamer with a Master's degree aged out of DACA, but her younger sister who was working on her undergrad qualified for it. The younger sister did not refrain from applying for DACA for the sake of the all or nothing agenda. She applied and got DACA and has renewed it since.

Amazing, we are being labeled as selfish. What happened to the all or nothing agenda then? This is what pisses me off.

libertarian1776 02-26-2017 06:31 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
might as well pack up and leave the United States. in no way in hell that legalization for all 11 million undocumented is gonna happen, and when you say for everyone, that includes the gang bangers and criminals. very nice!

the most BS rhetoric is i see here is when people say putting other undocumented people under the bus and look out for themselves. you'll honestly tell me that you're not gonna take relief for you and your family and look out for your best interest? so you honestly care about me? and you will not accept relief if your neighbor does not? nope foh with your noble ass, im pretty sure if ya'll given the chance to adjust permanently you will take it and could care less to what happens to me and other families.

its a jungle and we are trying to survive out here, protect your own.

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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606498)
It's either legalization for every undocumented people or nothing.


chargers38 02-26-2017 06:33 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606498)
You are a nazi and it seems as if you suffer from stockholm syndrome. It's either legalization for every undocumented people or nothing. Stop being selfish, our community is being deported. Trump is an evil man who changes his views rapidly, dont underestimate his wrath. Being a republican or even centrist DACAer is like being a nazi Jew.

This is just a troll. Disregard what ever they typed.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-26-2017 06:37 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
So it seems Democrats will bring in guest to protest Trump. This includes dreamers and Muslim Americans. This will be interesting.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...mocrats-235363

longtimelurker 02-26-2017 06:48 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by chargers38 (Post 606516)
This is just a troll. Disregard what ever they typed.

All im trying to say is that we shouldn't throw other immigrant groups under the bus just so that it can benefit us. They were the reason we got here in the first place, never forget how and where you came from. And, no im not advocating even the criminal illegals, I think they should be deported.

Why side with the oppressor? You guys remind me of uncle toms. Im so glad you guys arent the ones that are presenting the speech to Trump.

longtimelurker 02-26-2017 06:51 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 606515)
might as well pack up and leave the United States. in no way in hell that legalization for all 11 million undocumented is gonna happen, and when you say for everyone, that includes the gang bangers and criminals. very nice!

the most BS rhetoric is i see here is when people say putting other undocumented people under the bus and look out for themselves. you'll honestly tell me that you're not gonna take relief for you and your family and look out for your best interest? so you honestly care about me? and you will not accept relief if your neighbor does not? nope foh with your noble ass, im pretty sure if ya'll given the chance to adjust permanently you will take it and could care less to what happens to me and other families.

its a jungle and we are trying to survive out here, protect your own.

Youre sounding like a conservative right now. Seek therapy because your post is literally the epitome of selfishness and hatred

libertarian1776 02-26-2017 06:53 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
i dont really care if your conservative or liberal. both side are idiots and are only looking out for their own political gains and self interest.

there are no republicans or democrats in the jungle when youre trying to survive. when you're trying to feed your family they wont care what your political affiliation is. when you pay you're bills, they dont give a shit if your red or blue. when one is deported, they also don't care what your political views are.

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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606520)
Youre sounding like a conservative right now. Seek therapy because your post is literally the epitome of selfishness and hatred


longtimelurker 02-26-2017 06:57 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 606521)
i dont really care if your conservative or liberal. both side are idiots and are only looking out for their own political gains.

there are no republicans or democrats in the jungle when youre trying to survive. when you're trying to feed your family they wont care what your political affiliation is. when you pay you're bills, they dont give a shit if your red or blue.

but the democrats gave us DACA and supported all of these immigration reforms and the Dream Act. Without them, we would all be deported right now. That statement that you typed showed that you are ungrateful of what they have done for us. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

libertarian1776 02-26-2017 07:00 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
both democrats and republicans in the past has supported immigration reform. hell, George W. Bush also supported it when the CIR bill in 2006 and 2007 passed but didn't make it out of committee. they all just want immigrants for votes, thats how it is.

And yes i owe Obama my life, and he will forever be my president. but you also have to take into account that DACA wasn't repealed on Day 1 on Jan 20th.

we have to be pragmatic who ever is in charge of the government. Trump is the biggest moron in presidential history, but the democrats can't really give us anything big right now because they don't have the numbers in Congress. We will find out in 2018 if the Democrats can turn the table.


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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606522)
but the democrats gave us DACA and supported all of these immigration reforms and the Dream Act. Without them, we would all be deported right now. That statement that you typed showed that you are ungrateful of what they have done for us. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.


Smooth 02-26-2017 07:02 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606520)
Youre sounding like a conservative right now. Seek therapy because your post is literally the epitome of selfishness and hatred

No, he has a point. Why are some of us standing up for "ALL" when we damn well know that there some that deserve to be deported:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/us/kat...ul-death-suit/

Visit the victim's family, look her parents dead straight in the eye, and tell them why it is ALL immigrants are good immigrants and justify why it is that prick (assuming he is guilty) deserves a chance to stay.

Every time we mention these examples, dreamers like you pull of that damn idealistic race-card and victims of the system arguments. It's as if you do not care about the victims of the bad ones and their families. We are not being selfish. We are being Americans.


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