White House postpones immigration meeting, again
 

According to Politico,the President has put off the immigration meeting yet again with no set date this time.

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He's going to have it in summer 2011 according to some people here... so lets not hold our breadths...these things take time.

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Postponed indefinitely? Great to see how seriously they take the issue.

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like i said, they're swamped with other stuff. they dont even know whos going to attend or even what to discuss about something they tout as high priority yet postpones it for "supplementals". when did immigration fall behind "supplementals"? LOL

and they certainly will not be voting on this thing during election year. looks like 2011 is slowly becoming a reality. sucks big time :/

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This shows how serious the govt. Is taking an urgent issue.

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This is getting ridiculous:evil:

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Yesterday, I was reading this article that Ruben Navarrette wrote (it was posted on the Pasadena Star News) about immigration. What is interesting is the last paragraph he wrote, That is basically what is going, our lovely democrats and our President are dodging an issue that needs to be addressed NOW. I am actually disappointed that this is happening.

By the way, here is the URL for the article by Navarrette: http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/opinions/ci_12563397

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This is ridiculous...

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This is all strategies probably used to ensure it passes. Politics is not a black and white thing. I do not think President Obama is postponing it because he is trying to ignore it. On the contrary i believe he is doing it because he sees it as the best way to help it pass. Political world is a complex world, and only those with accurate information on the situation and good strategies can succeed.

President Obama is one of the most intelligent man in the world. He knows what he is doing and i trust him. So should every one else.

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this is just wow. The President cant hold on to his promise about taking immigration issue as a priority task. Poor us. Especially the latino community that voted for him

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contact the white house...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
Dream act has to pass this year...

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they don't even talk about CIR, Do you think Dream Act can stand alone and pass?????

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DA will have a great chance of passing this year, if they wait any longer it will likely not pass!!!

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yes I do...We have a lot of support this time....

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yupp thats true. and all our dreams will be shattered once again. Hearing obama say " I support the dream act fully 100% " during camp. Well if he does do something about. I thought education is top of his agenda also.

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I think DA would have a better chance than CIR and that is my opinion.

As the facts, i think Senator Durbin knows that much better than us, since he is the majority whip.

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Don't buy this crap. Navarrete is a Republican so it's in his best interest to blame it on Democrats and pretend like Republicans actually care about us.

The fact still remains that the only reason immigration hasn't been brought up for a vote is Republican obstructionism.

I wrote this almost 10 days ago:

They ended up dragging the vote on the tobacco bill until this week. As you can see, this is all Republican obstructionism and their fundamental opposition to progress so let's be rational about these news and look at the bigger picture instead.

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Obama is "delaying" because it's the best way to pass immigration reform? Now Ruben Navarette is a republican? LMAO!! I've heard some whoppers, but this makes the cream of the crop!
First it was dem didn't control congress; didn't set agenda; public wasn't ready; election fears....help me out here people...I'm sure there's more. Now it's "the economy" "it's not the right time" "not enough votes" "we want a bipartisan bill"
Rham Emanuel said after the elections (do a google search) something that was very telling. He said Obama wouldn't address immigration reform UNTIL his SECOND ADMINISTRATION. Obama himself voted to sunset guest worker provisions in 2007 effectively killing that CIR bill. If you don't want to deal with a problem, you pack your schedule with everything you can imagine, give non answers about CIR, and stick with "we'll begin discussions THIS year."

It won't happen this year. Not next year. And 2011 is a stretch at best- it'll be primary season. Some of you seriously need to stop drinking the coolade.

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Yes, Ruben Navarrete is a Republican, and if he weren't Latino he probably wouldn't support CIR.

Remember his article supporting McCain (going as far as calling him "the first Latino president") over Obama last year?

So yeah, I'll keep drinking my "coolade", dear. Thanks.

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The Obama Administration should not have announced a date if there was a chance of another delay. One delay is fine but a second delay hurts trust on an issue especially among ardent activists who pay the most attention on this issue.

They say the reason for the delay is the war supplemental bill for the wars, which is in danger of failing. I guess they have to shore up votes in the House.

Still, immigration remains the third priority behind health care and energy and that hasn't changed. Also, the immigration event is still happening sometime later this month. I think once the event happens, the memories of the delays will be overshadowed by the news that will come from the event.

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This strategy is only working for OPPONENTS to CIR.

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I agree with you 100%......But is very likely Obama won't have a majority in congres by 2011 wich will make it next to impossible.

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Typical DAP drama queens overreacting.

Postponed meeting = Bigger + More Effective.

A majority of Americans support CIR


"re-election year" crap does not make sense. So politicians have to fear voting for what the majority of people support because it's a "re-election year"?

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Where are you getting your numbers from?
Last I checked the GOP was showing no signifcant signs of recovery.
If anything democrats will gain an even stronger majority in 2011.

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you are my new hero.


f* kman. you win.

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I disagree, people don't like majority congresses for too long. Plus, with all this reform Obama is bringing in, there are already a lot of people getting angry so, a continuation of democratic majority is highly unlikely.

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Ugh ...

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what are you all talking about "Majority of Americans support CIR", no they don't. the only ones who do are the ones that have a connection with an illegal alien. weather its a friend, employer, or family. but other than that, why would anyone want more people here, especially illegals who already broke the law. stop reading those b.s polls. if i go out right now and ask EVERY single person "do u support CIR", they would say "deport these illegals"... asking 1,000 people doesn't = majority of Americans.

they don't want us here, the only people that have no problem with us is the ones who make a living from us, who may benefit directly from some of us.

is it the right thing to solve this problem once and for all so we have no more of this problem every 10 years; YES... do people give a s**t about what is right? NO. they only care about themselves.

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The whole point of mid-term election is the balance of power...historically The party controlling the White House has lost an average of 24 House seats and 4 Senate seats during midterm elections since 1950

http://www.apsanet.org/~elections/ar...beck_tien.html

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I was 20 in 2001 when Hatch's initial DA came up. I was naive and overly enthusiastic about the possibilities that I wouldn't allow any info to spoil my fantasy. Then case cosa forums and the same don't-tell-me-santa-doesn't-exist fantasies. We're so wedded to this moment; now...we desparately need something to pass that we react with deep cynicism, and attack any viewpoint we consider contrary to our belief. So we cling on to flimsy promises from a wiley politician, and ignore the fact that his promises not only keep changing but they're no longer firm promises. We overlook every hint from his administration that they would prefer tackling this issue NEXT year!

I'm not 20 any more. If you want to keep clinging on to promises that no longer exist, go ahead. I can't blame you. But be wise to hedge your bets. I'm moving on with my life with or without DA or CIR. This includes marriage, starting a business with college friends. I've put life too long on pause because of promises from politicians. Be careful with how your approach the legislative process. I would hate to see some of you 5 years from now waiting for your lives to restart. Good luck.

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At the very least,we have a date & the time can be used to promote Dream act *hint* *hint*.The Hispanic Caucus also appear to be making some sort effort in the House behind the scenes.

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thank you mr. president.


some of you engineers out there build a time machine so i can go back into 1986.

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This is all strategies probably used to ensure it passes. Politics is not a black and white thing. I do not think President Obama is postponing it because he is trying to ignore it. On the contrary i believe he is doing it because he sees it as the best way to help it pass. Political world is a complex world, and only those with accurate information on the situation and good strategies can succeed.

President Obama is one of the most intelligent man in the world. He knows what he is doing and i trust him. So should every one else.[/quote]

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Lets see what happens! Sometimes all talk at these meeting come up with nothing so it might be a good thing if DA is just attached to some education bill as opposed to some big debate meeting or talk fest.

I think we will see DA attached to an education bill and then CIR debate will be had later in the year or early next year.

Will you buy me the new mocha mcdonalds if what I say becomes true.

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Ditto .

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I don't know where you're getting your numbers.

Democrats are posed to gain seats in New Hampshire, Missouri, Ohio, and Kentucky. And the only Democratic Senator in danger of losing is Chris Dodd, but his numbers have been improving consistently (although he still trails Republican Rob Simmons). Even if he were still really unpopular come 2010, he could always get a primary challenger (Merrick Alpert) who would easily carry the heavily Democratic state.

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If you've never taken a formal stats course, you have no business discussing the accuracy of professional polls.

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I don't think anyone believes that we can just sit back and let politicians make good on their promises. But the notion that since this meeting is being rescheduled yet again, we should defenestrate all the political gains we've made so far is equally childish.

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I have no idea where you live but if thats the consensus then you should move.

Where I live the consensus is this and this is virtually a direct quote: "I don't like illegal immigration as much as the next guy but the current immigration system is a joke." And pretty much all of the people around me, adults as well as people my age, berate the people who stand in front of 7-11s holding signs that say "Deport illegals", and not the hard working part of the immigrant population. Americans do get annoyed that a good portion doesnt speak english, and a lot of them do make jokes about the Latino part of the population, which is inappropriate, but it's not the same thing as opposing illegal immigration. The only people who do complain are the ones who lost their job directly to an illegal immigrant, and guess what it actually doesn't happen that often. They might inadvertently set the wages in certain sectors, but they do not "steal" jobs simply because they cannot compete in majority of the sectors without legal papers.

The only people that would say that, are really ignorant people who watch Lou Dobbs and do not understand anything about how the world works. Yeah, let's just deport a good portion of our population whose hard work is one of the biggest reasons for low prices of produce as well as other services. Who cares that majority of them do pay taxes yet have no access to refunds and most govt. services. They should still get deported because....because I don't like them. Ask a person with a job, a student, or even just a person with half a brain.