Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 

What da fuk

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Its official. He's gay.

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did he get sand in his vag this week or something, what the hell.

man up, do what's right; you've had time to draft a bill god damn we've been waiting long enough.

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 

I feel like he planned to screw up both the climate and immigration bills all along. What a douche.

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He is a Trojan Horse, he is just doing his job.

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 

Can you say drama queen...!

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CIR is next.

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" I am deeply disappointed that Senate Republicans sided with Wall Street and voted to block debate on reform. The American people can’t afford to delay fixing a broken system that nearly brought our economy to its knees." - President Obama

Doest hat mean financial reform is also dead.

I'm sure the fucking climate can wait a little longer. It is us who are running out of time.

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SOB. I hope he gets ass raped by Mr. Ed.

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Nope. It means there will be more talks and then another vote in near future.

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I don't get it.

Look at Graham here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceslYIUka1I

Why is he acting like a little bitch? He clearly understands the urgency of the matter. He knows what is right. Is the climate change going to cause a terrorist attack? Is that why it is more urgent? If identifying illegal immigrants for the sake of the safety of the country (according to him), why does he not act in accord?

DAMMIT GRAHAM!!!

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We already know that CIR will be done first before Climate.

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DA User! Please! Stop!

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Don't get our hopes up. Egh.

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 

What a tool. I have been so happy these last couple of days, with all the news we've been hearing, and now this...

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 

Reid v. McCain

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What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

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He's clearly trying to protect McCain with this whole "next year" bullshit. He knows that there's no way an immigration bill will pass with even more Republicans in the Senate.

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Graham walked out of the Climate Bill. CIR will be next.

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Future of millions of people, future of GOP v. last term of one ole senile Senator (McCain)

politics is harsh

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http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677...on-another-day

So if it has no chance of passing this year, what makes him think it has a chance of passing next year? He is clearly looking out for McCain on this one.

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They want to delay everything till they diminish the Democratic number in the senate.

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This won't happen. More dems will be added in this election in Congress.

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Chances of that happening are slim to none

Plus have a look at
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=114316346

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Obama had his Democrats passed the HCR. This is enough to more Dems on board.

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or get themselves voted out

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Thats the past. Obama is a unique president who has the power to get Dems on board!

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DA User, have you no sense of historical trends? The Dems will take a hit this November; the typical American voter, specially those on the Right, are imbeciles-no matter what good the Dems have done, they'll still take a hit. Democrats will have a majority in the Senate and the House, but nowhere near the numbers they had in late 2008. If anything, this will make sure that Democratic legislative efforts will completely tank.

Everyone else complaining about waiting until the lame-duck session: Why are you complaining?? I'm sure i'm not the only one waiting for CIR or the Dream Act to pass; heck, I've been living like this for 18 years. I've put my life on hold for a couple of years now as I'm sure many of you have, but jumping to the point of calling Graham gay or bashing Climate Change just because it doesn't fit our agenda. In the eyes of the American people, we're of little to no importance, i've come to terms with that...with that said, I understand that CIR isn't the top priority of this nation; so I honestly see why immigration reform is on the backburner. If you don't want to wait, fine, walk away...if you want to wait then sit tight. It's bound to happen one way or another, perhaps not a sweeping bill like the '85 amnesty, but something will pass. Getting all ill-tempered about it isn't going to do us any good.

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Democrats were losing momentum before the HCR. Democrats are very much in control. You stated that Dems will take majority and that was my point. Either way we have bi-partisan support on CIR/DREAM Act.

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No, I really don't think it looks like the Democrats are in control. It seems to me that one person is in control, and that is a Republican named Graham.

You are overestimating Obama's electioneering prowess. His help did nothing for Martha Coakley in Massachusetts. The reason he seemed so persuasive in 2008 is because everybody was talking about how "historic" the election was, which gained Obama a lot of votes from sectors of the population who will not vote for Democrats the next time around.

Obama is no longer Zeus throwing thunderbolts from Mount Olympus. Health Care Reform exposed him as just another politician. Hell's sake, he had to pass McCain's health reform bill to get anything done on the issue! Whatever happened to his single-payer option? It went the way of his approval ratings. Because voters--and the masses in general--are very fickle, many people will vote an opposite way in 2010 than what they did in 2008. This is the exact reason why McCain has flip-flopped so much in the last two years: he is trying to catch the coattails of the masses, and because he is late in doing that, his attempts look mostly bungled and manufactured to everybody who is looking on.

For all these reasons, it is almost a guarantee that the Democrats will lose some seats in the coming election, even if they don't lose control of either house. Do you understand how rare it is in American history for one party to control the presidency, and both houses of Congress with a super-majority in the Senate? The only really comparable times are during and after the Civil War, the 1930s, and the 1960s.

Each of those periods were times of crisis that do not compare to today. In all of those periods, the party in charge made major strides to fix major social problems that the country had not meaningfully addressed for decades. So if you really believe the Democrats will gain seats and immigration reform will be easier after the election, you are seriously deluding yourself. The full weight of American history is against you. If CIR does not pass, it will be entirely the fault of the Democrats who could have taken the initiative at a unique moment in history when they had super-majorities in Congress and could have solved a major and unfair social issue in the manner of what the Republicans did with slavery in the 1860s, or what the Democrats did with Civil Rights in the 1960s.