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DREAMactASAP 05-18-2010 08:49 PM
McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 


Wow. So the truth finally comes out. McCain basically says: "That's what you get for not voting for me. Now screw you and get out of my way."

What a jerk!!

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By Todd A. Heywood 5/18/10

U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has issued a statement about Monday’s DREAM Act protests in his Tucson offices.

Three undocumented youth and a fourth legal citizen were arrested at the office and charged with trespassing by Tucson authorities. Officials planned to release the youth Tuesday, but Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) stepped in and detained the three undocumented youth.

The undocumented youth have been in the country illegally for years and were brought here by parents. They say that 65,000 undocumented youth will graduate from U.S. high schools this year, without an opportunity to pursue dreams of higher education. They are trapped between the country they have grown up in and the country they came from but know nothing about, activists say. That, activists argue is the reason to pass the DREAM Act which would create a legal path to citizenship for such youth.

McCain has sponsored the legislation in the past, but has decided not to this year. Activists and pundits alike attribute this decision to his battle to defend his Senate seat from a challenge on the right by radio talk show host J.D. Hayworth.

In response to the protest Monday, McCain’s office issued the following statement, Arizona TV station KGUN reports:

“Senator McCain understands the students’ frustrations, but elections have consequences and they should focus their efforts on the President and the Democrats that control the agenda in Congress.”

Activists with the group One Michigan issued action alerts Tuesday calling on supporters to lobby Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) to become a [co]sponsor of the DREAM Act. Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) is already a [co]sponsor.

Source: http://michiganmessenger.com/37958/m...m-act-protests

DA User 05-18-2010 08:51 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
So what if McCain lost. He can still fulfill his dreams of passing CIR.

CookieEater 05-18-2010 09:18 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159580)
So what if McCain lost. He can still fulfill his dreams of passing CIR.
lmao, i know it's just your "opinion" and everything but seriously man, are you really that clueless?

McCain is just playing politics, can't blame him. he's definitely an asshole for flip-flopping just to pander to his party though.

2Face 05-18-2010 09:40 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
DA User, Someone wise told me once on this forum that you have to learn how to be realist sometimes and not be overly optimistic on issues like this. By having such a stance, you will be prepared to face any setbacks which are especially inevitable with Immigration. So, just have a balanced view of everything. In my opinion, partisan politics are plaguing Washington and this is evidenced by McCain's response to these brave youth who have decided to lead the fight. Which dreams are you talking about? Senator McCain doesn't even have respect for his own colleague Ted Kennedy with whom he co-sponsored the last Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which failed during the Bush administration. Simply put, Republicans don't want ANY legislation passed because there is a Democrat in office!

hef107 05-18-2010 09:46 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159580)
So what if McCain lost. He can still fulfill his dreams of passing CIR.
Umm..I'm lost.. why is everyone hating on you..??


anywho... What do they mean ICE stepped in?!? What now? :cry:

2Face 05-18-2010 09:51 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Clearly, the only person who has power to calm this storm is President Barack Obama. It is up to him to order Congress to get the ball rolling on immigration reform. I'll definitely be tuned in tomorrow to see his talks with Felipe Calderon. I'm sure Gutierrez still has something up his sleeve to help immigration reform going in Congress. Can Congress accomplish both climate bill and immigration reform bill before midterm elections? Will the current crisis in the Gulf Coast delay passage of the Climate bill? Will be interesting to see.

DA User 05-18-2010 09:57 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CookieEater (Post 159584)
lmao, i know it's just your "opinion" and everything but seriously man, are you really that clueless?

McCain is just playing politics, can't blame him. he's definitely an asshole for flip-flopping just to pander to his party though.
McCain once was the strongest support of CIR. I know he has backed out but that does not mean he will vote No. Reps want to secure the border first.

trovales 05-18-2010 09:59 PM
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McCain is right though. Democrats AND Obama are in charge now and they should take more leadership on the matter. Pass something WITHOUT republicans. Unite.

Mona Lisa 05-18-2010 10:03 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 159590)
Clearly, the only person who has power to calm this storm is President Barack Obama. It is up to him to order Congress to get the ball rolling on immigration reform. I'll definitely be tuned in tomorrow to see his talks with Felipe Calderon. I'm sure Gutierrez still has something up his sleeve to help immigration reform going in Congress. Can Congress accomplish both climate bill and immigration reform bill before midterm elections? Will the current crisis in the Gulf Coast delay passage of the Climate bill? Will be interesting to see.
Stay tune for more Obama sweet talk to calm the storm

DA User 05-18-2010 10:03 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hef107 (Post 159589)
Umm..I'm lost.. why is everyone hating on you..??


anywho... What do they mean ICE stepped in?!? What now? :cry:
Because they don't agree with my 'opinions'. I don't talk back because that is not my style. Just a classy guy here. I respect other's opinions here and if I see that they are disrepecting me, I just move on and ignore.

DA User 05-18-2010 10:04 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 159586)
DA User, Someone wise told me once on this forum that you have to learn how to be realist sometimes and not be overly optimistic on issues like this. By having such a stance, you will be prepared to face any setbacks which are especially inevitable with Immigration. So, just have a balanced view of everything. In my opinion, partisan politics are plaguing Washington and this is evidenced by McCain's response to these brave youth who have decided to lead the fight. Which dreams are you talking about? Senator McCain doesn't even have respect for his own colleague Ted Kennedy with whom he co-sponsored the last Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which failed during the Bush administration. Simply put, Republicans don't want ANY legislation passed because there is a Democrat in office!
We have Graham and Brown. Crist also as Independant.

angeleno 05-18-2010 10:06 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159580)
So what if McCain lost.
Then Democrat Rodney Glassman has a better shot at winning. I truly hope McCain loses in the primary.

DA User 05-18-2010 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by angeleno (Post 159600)
Then Democrat Rodney Glassman has a better shot at winning. I truly hope McCain loses in the primary.
Who is he running against? Does his opponent support CIR/Dream Act?

free2be 05-18-2010 10:11 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159599)
We have Graham and Brown. Crist also as Independant.
So...to clarify...the ask of the Dream Act 5, the whole reason they planned this, is to put pressure on to demand that the Dream Act is passed as a stand-alone bill. Period, end of story. It's obvious neither R or D intends to seriously tackle CIR this year, and the Dream Act can't afford to keep on waiting for BS and meaningless words.

DREAMactASAP 05-18-2010 10:11 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by angeleno (Post 159600)
Then Democrat Rodney Glassman has a better shot at winning. I truly hope McCain loses in the primary.
Why? We all know that he's talking all tough on immigration because of his primary, but deep down he knows what is right with regards to immigration. I think that once this all settles down and if McCain gets reelected, he will magically come back to his senses. He may continue to say the whole stuff about securing borders, but I think that all of a sudden he will support the proposal Schumer introduced because it really does secure borders.

He just wants to win first and he's doing whatever it takes. It's not right, but he is desperate. He still has a heart, however, he is just trying to please those that do not.

I think he will be back around if he gets re elected. As for his opponents, what do they call it?... oh yeah, fuggedaboutit!

angeleno 05-18-2010 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMactASAP (Post 159604)


Why? We all know that he's talking all tough on immigration because of his primary, but deep down he knows what is right with regards to immigration. I think that once this all settles down and if McCain gets reelected, he will magically come back to his senses. He may continue to say the whole stuff about securing borders, but I think that all of a sudden he will support the proposal Schumer introduced because it really does secure borders.

He just wants to win first and he's doing whatever it takes. It's not right, but he is desperate. He still has a heart, however, he is just trying to please those that do not.

I think he will be back around if he gets re elected. As for his opponents, what do they call it?... oh yeah, fuggedaboutit!
This is the man who picked Sarah Palin as his replacement should his cancer-ridden, 70 year old body give up on him. You're giving him too much credit dear.

2Face 05-18-2010 10:19 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159602)
Who is he running against? Does his opponent support CIR/Dream Act?
J. D. Hayworth is as conservative as it gets...We wouldn't be any better off if he beat McCain. In fact, at this point, it makes sense to support McCain because I'm sure he will come back on board once he assures a win at the polls. Simple politics at play here...

DREAMactASAP 05-18-2010 10:28 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 159606)
J. D. Hayworth is as conservative as it gets...We wouldn't be any better off if he beat McCain. In fact, at this point, it makes sense to support McCain because I'm sure he will come back on board once he assures a win at the polls. Simple politics at play here...
That's what I'm saying. With Hayworth, no chance in hell! With McCain, we still have a chance. When he was running for president, he was the only one who stood up on this issue (and Giuliani) surrounded by 10 other Republicans who wanted to deport everybody.

At this point he is helpless and is just trying to win. Once he is in, it's six whole years and no one can tell him a damn thing. He knows we need immigration reform and he will come back to his senses. (I just hope.)

Eddy117 05-18-2010 10:33 PM
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The deal is that Gutierrez and Diaz-Ballart have been trying to get Pelosi to act on it...she's holding a grudge because she wants to push for climate change. She knows that there's a chance that next year we'll have Speaker Boehner and she wants climate change to be her legacy as speaker. The truth is that the Senate wont act on CIR or DREAM this year because it's not politically sound. We're in a pickle, and it sucks but that's life.

ECW 05-18-2010 11:39 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
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Originally Posted by Eddy117 (Post 159614)
The deal is that Gutierrez and Diaz-Ballart have been trying to get Pelosi to act on it...she's holding a grudge because she wants to push for climate change. She knows that there's a chance that next year we'll have Speaker Boehner and she wants climate change to be her legacy as speaker. The truth is that the Senate wont act on CIR or DREAM this year because it's not politically sound. We're in a pickle, and it sucks but that's life.
ummm...who the f*** are you again?

plz-724 05-18-2010 11:48 PM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
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Originally Posted by angeleno (Post 159605)
This is the man who picked Sarah Palin as his replacement should his cancer-ridden, 70 year old body give up on him. You're giving him too much credit dear.
http://www.my-funny-tshirt.com/image...ith-Stupid.jpg

WhiteNoise 05-18-2010 11:52 PM
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Nuh-uh. I know you are not calling Angie stupid...

Feenmi 05-18-2010 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteNoise (Post 159635)
Nuh-uh. I know you are not calling Angie stupid...
Angie ...LOL

dreamy14 05-19-2010 12:50 AM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CookieEater (Post 159584)
McCain is just playing politics, can't blame him. he's definitely an asshole for flip-flopping just to pander to his party though.
Hmmmm....this sounds familiar. Where have I seen this before?




Oh wait....2008 presidential election.

ari88 05-19-2010 01:59 AM
Re: McCain issues statement on DREAM Act protests
 
so they're going to be in custody until june 16!
do u guys think they're together?
and i hope they don't get treated bad


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