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Qualia 09-21-2010 06:13 PM

Local Students Crushed After DREAM Act Fails
 
Undocumented students at Miami-Dade College broke into tears Tuesday afternoon, after the U.S. Senate voted to keep the DREAM Act out of the defense bill.

Many of the students had hoped the measure would change their lives forever, opening doors to opportunity. So when the vote came in, devastation filled the room.

"I'm heart-broken," said Esteban Roncancio, an undocumented student with tears in his eyes. "I thought finally we would get a chance to give back to this country that we all love,"

Nineteen-year-old Adan Quesada was also overwhelmed with emotion while watching the news. His parents brought him to the United States when he was just 19-years-old.

"I can't do a lot of stuff I thought I could do as a kid," said Quesada. "I was brought here at a young age and I thought my whole life I was American until I got to my senior year and I can't work, I can't drive, I couldn't even go to college and now I'm working hard to not be oppressed and fight against it and be somebody."

The DREAM Act would have given some young undocumented immigrants the chance to become permanent residents if they completed two years of college or served two years in the military.

It is a move that Floridians for Immigration Enforcement have been fighting.

"We call it the dream stealing amnesty act," said David Caulkett, the group's Vice President. "It redistributes dreams away from citizen students and gives those college dreams to illegal alien students and that's just grossly unfair."

While Caulkett and his group are rejoicing the senate's move Tuesday, the students hoping for legalization are vowing not to give up.

"I'm sad, I'm very sad," said Felipe Matos, an undocumented student. "But I have to be strong for my friends and I have to be strong so we can keep on fighting."
http://cbs4.com/local/dream.act.denied.2.1924515.html

Alex0591 09-21-2010 06:19 PM

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i hope there happy..... destroying the dreams of hundreds of thousands of kids because of a misinformed and mislead fear of competition.......

Task_1539 09-21-2010 06:21 PM

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This is where they can't give up. We must urge Senate majority leader Reid and Majority Whip Durbin to bring the DREAM Act as a standalone bill. More senators supported it than apposed it as a standalone. With the inclusion of the support of Senator Bennett (R-UT) who says he wants to support the DREAM Act but not in the defense bill because of other controversial measures in the bill.

Neskrov 09-21-2010 06:21 PM

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this is explains why i didn't want to get my hopes up to begin with.

ivan81 09-21-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 2513609)
Nineteen-year-old Adan Quesada was also overwhelmed with emotion while watching the news. His parents brought him to the United States when he was just 19-years-old.

WTF?! He's not even eligible for DREAM.

DREAMactASAP 09-21-2010 06:24 PM

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Where is this article from?

Qualia 09-21-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ivan81 (Post 175653)
WTF?! He's not even eligible for DREAM.

lmao I wish I could reverse my age too!!!!!!!!!

IceCreamPony 09-21-2010 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ivan81 (Post 175653)
WTF?! He's not even eligible for DREAM.

LMFAO.. I know right. Why is he crying? :lol:

starsNmoons 09-21-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ivan81 (Post 175653)
WTF?! He's not even eligible for DREAM.

lol. I laughed when I read that because of the "just 19 years old" like 19 is a tiny child. I think this was an error, cuz they say the boy is 19, and then say his parents brought him at 19.

lilbawler2001 09-21-2010 06:37 PM

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They didn't even vote on the dream Act.

Quote:

Undocumented students at Miami-Dade College broke into tears Tuesday afternoon, after the U.S. Senate voted to keep the DREAM Act out of the defense bill.

sabzon 09-21-2010 06:41 PM

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only dream worth fighting for is the will to survive.

Sindel 09-21-2010 07:03 PM

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lmao, it's probably a typo, he was probably 9 lol.

Dreaaamerrr 09-21-2010 07:05 PM

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We must keep fighting and make our voices heard.
and really guys... let's not let this set back chap our asses too bad, cause realistically, this is something that HAS to be done sooner or later. Mass deportation of students is unreal, and unfair. And well, this great country prides itself in it's American values that hold a reputation of being fair........most of the time.
I know we've waited a long time, and we're downright tired of waiting... but I have high hopes that the solution is right around the corner.
This isn't over. We can do this!!

Lizzy 09-21-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 175662)
lmao I wish I could reverse my age too!!!!!!!!!

I think it was a typo and he said he was brought at a younger age. At 19 you are not longer a child so nobody brought you anywhere, 19 you are able to decide.

Lizzy 09-21-2010 07:15 PM

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ughhhh so depressing .... I got my hopes up. So what's next? what do we do so they can bring it as a stand alone? Let's star we can't waste time, I'm already 21 and the years keep moving and nothing ever happens grrrrrrrr is soooo frustrating. What should we do next?

Qualia 09-21-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzy (Post 175693)
ughhhh so depressing .... I got my hopes up. So what's next? what do we do so they can bring it as a stand alone? Let's star we can't waste time, I'm already 21 and the years keep moving and nothing ever happens grrrrrrrr is soooo frustrating. What should we do next?

Okay, here it goes. Our Strategy is: We will push Senator Harry Reid to bring the Dream Act for voting as a stand-alone bill... Not attached to anything else... this may give it the best chance of passing. Here's the number: Phone: 202-224-3542 . That's what we must do. Some of you guys are talking about giving up ...and what-not.... WHY WOULD YOU GIVE UP NOW??? It's not the end. D.A. WASN'T EVEN VOTED ON!! C'mon!

Eddy117 09-21-2010 07:52 PM

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DREAM will most likely be brought up to be voted as a standalone bill later this year. If not they'll retry it after the elections in the Lame Duck Session. We have to keep in mind that because of this stupid partisan election it was going to be quite hard passing a piece of legislation with two controversial amendments *Dream/repealing DADT*

Demise 09-21-2010 08:13 PM

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i was just pissed when i saw that it failed, i didnt feel sad or anything, just pissed

Lizzy 09-21-2010 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 175696)
Okay, here it goes. Our Strategy is: We will push Senator Harry Reid to bring the Dream Act for voting as a stand-alone bill... Not attached to anything else... this may give it the best chance of passing. Here's the number: Phone: 202-224-3542 . That's what we must do. Some of you guys are talking about giving up ...and what-not.... WHY WOULD YOU GIVE UP NOW??? It's not the end. D.A. WASN'T EVEN VOTED ON!! C'mon!

Ok So we call and ask to get transfer with him or do we tell the secretary?

Ash 09-21-2010 08:21 PM

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I kinda expected it to be honest, I thoughg they did it to stir up view points and votes

But who knows, maybe they will bring it up as a stand alone? They should and could, after all they're saying how they're all for it and how important the Latino vote is to them

Dreamer X 09-21-2010 08:21 PM

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I feel like slitting my wrists and my throat -_-

Ash 09-21-2010 08:22 PM

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Please everyone, stop being suicidal, you will be inflicting harm on no one but yourself and it will not change a thing.

frbc13 09-21-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamer X (Post 175730)
I feel like slitting my wrists and my throat -_-


I already did

Qualia 09-21-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzy (Post 175727)
Ok So we call and ask to get transfer with him or do we tell the secretary?

you get a choice, either leaving a message or speaking to one of his staff members.

DA User 09-21-2010 09:01 PM

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Today's vote benefited us. Now the bill is more known then ever before.

The bill will be brought up again soon, whats the worry?

Qualia 09-21-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 175767)
Today's vote benefited us. Now the bill is more known then ever before.

The bill will be brought up again soon, whats the worry?

Question is when? we cant wait another 3 !()@(@#+@#$U@) years for it to be voted upon.

alexpac 09-21-2010 09:20 PM

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guys, the dream act is not dead! true it was kinda frustrating today, but this is a wake up call for us! we have very good chances of it passing this year, but we also have to work hardER... i know some have called and called and called but it's not enough...let s keep doing it! our whole future depends on it and its worth fighting for!

hgr1915 09-21-2010 10:23 PM

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We still have the Promise the President made during the private fundraiser.
He said he would regularize the status of Immigrants with (TPS) status and Dream Act students through executive order after the November Elections.

Another possibility would be the fact that the dream act is not dead and it might be brought up in another date later this year. (Dream act is back in the judiciary committee)

The last hope we have is the CIR bill of SEN. Martinez. He will introduce it by the end of September or beginning of October.... It will be debated on January. SEN. Shummer also has a bill.

I haven't lost hope and you guys should not give up!!!!

Dreamer X 09-21-2010 10:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hgr1915 (Post 175810)
We still have the Promise the President made during the private fundraiser.
He said he would regularize the status of Immigrants with (TPS) status and Dream Act students through executive order after the November Elections.

Why can't he do it BEFORE!!!! -_- ugh i hate politics

EverHopeful 09-21-2010 10:32 PM

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I was depressed when I heard the news too. I had my hopes up...but what really hurts is to see how this bill have crushed my father's hope. I'm more worried about him then I.

DA User 09-22-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 175769)
Question is when? we cant wait another 3 !()@(@#+@#$U@) years for it to be voted upon.

I don't think it will be that long. It maybe brought up as stand-alone or an attachment before or right after elections. Don't forget the CIR either. CIR is definately after the Elections and if that comes up, DA will be in there too.

Juan92 09-22-2010 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreamer X (Post 175730)
I feel like slitting my wrists and my throat -_-



what if i told you ur call is crucial

Dreamer X 09-22-2010 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan92 (Post 175864)
what if i told you ur call is crucial

it went straight to VM

dreamdreamdream 09-22-2010 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 175862)
I don't think it will be that long. It maybe brought up as stand-alone or an attachment before or right after elections. Don't forget the CIR either. CIR is definately after the Elections and if that comes up, DA will be in there too.

I cringe at the thought of CIR. I'm all for it, but i mean if it's been this hard to pass DREAM...CIR must be near impossible.

p.s: the only way it'll be brought up as a stand-alone before elections is if we call and pressure Reid to do so. So keep on calling people.

sanchez367 09-22-2010 03:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hgr1915 (Post 175810)
We still have the Promise the President made during the private fundraiser.
He said he would regularize the status of Immigrants with (TPS) status and Dream Act students through executive order after the November Elections.

Another possibility would be the fact that the dream act is not dead and it might be brought up in another date later this year. (Dream act is back in the judiciary committee)

The last hope we have is the CIR bill of SEN. Martinez. He will introduce it by the end of September or beginning of October.... It will be debated on January. SEN. Shummer also has a bill.

I haven't lost hope and you guys should not give up!!!!

When did the President say he would regularize the status of Immigrants with (TPS) status and Dream Act students through executive order after the November Elections? I have never heard him say this. What is your source?


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