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victor85 09-26-2010 04:49 PM

Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...fter-elections


Accusing Republicans of killing the DREAM Act for political ends, President Obama this weekend vowed to renew the fight for passage after November's midterms.

"My hope is that after the election maybe some of the Republicans who previously had supported these measures will come back and come to their senses and recognize that this is the right thing to do," Obama said Saturday in an interview with Univision, a Spanish-language station, from the White House Rose Garden. "And I’m going to push very hard to see if we can get it done."

The Senate last week shot down the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act by a vote of 56 to 43. Every Republican — as well as Arkansas Democratic Sens. Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor — opposed the measure.

Both sides accused the other of playing politics with the vote. Republicans slammed the Democrats for attaching the DREAM Act language to a larger defense spending bill, while Democrats accused past GOP supporters — including Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Orrin Hatch (Utah) and Robert Bennett (Utah) — of flip-flopping to deny the Democrats a political victory just before the midterms.

The DREAM Act would offer a pathway to citizenship for young adults with two years of college or military service. The benefits would apply to those who arrived in the U.S. before age 16 and have lived in the country for at least five years. To be eligible, applicants would have to have a high school diploma, or the equivalent, from a U.S. school.

"Maybe after this election," Obama said Saturday, "[Republicans] will come to their senses and say [that] instead of trying to play politics with this issue let’s try to solve the problem."

The president also defended his decision, as part of the new health reform law, to make undocumented immigrants ineligible to buy health insurance from state-based exchanges.

"We couldn’t cover all undocumented workers, there wasn’t the budget for it, and frankly the real solution there is make sure that they are legal," Obama said. "Once they are [legal] — if we can provide a pathway of citizenship for them — then they will be eligible for the same benefits as everybody else."

That issue was a thorny one throughout the months-long debate over healthcare reform. Indeed, when Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) stirred a media storm last September with his "You lie!" outburst, it was in response to Obama's statement that “the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”

House Democrats had pushed to allow illegal immigrants to buy plans from the exchange as long as the purchase wasn't subsidized by taxpayers. The idea was that banning such purchases would likely force illegal immigrants into emergency rooms rather than encouraging them to get preventive treatments.

The idea was rejected by Senate Democrats as too politically poisonous.

Obama on Saturday also addressed the controversial new immigrations law adopted by Arizona. Although the president was quick to slam the law as "a bad idea," he also noted that immigration is a national issue requiring national policies and solutions. The Arizona law, he conceded, is rooted in Washington's failure to act on a more comprehensive policy.

"Ultimately," he said, "the way we are going to be able to solve that is if we can in fact have a comprehensive law at the federal level that holds everybody responsible — holds the federal government responsible for securing the border; make sure that we are holding businesses responsible so that they don’t take advantage of undocumented workers; holds those workers responsible for paying their taxes, paying a fine, learning English, getting on pathway to citizenship.

"If we all come together, there is no reason why we can’t solve this problem."

MiGSTeR 09-26-2010 05:23 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
WoW aGaiN? lol

RayMan4 09-26-2010 05:24 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
Agreed, maybe he should be the one to stop playing politics..

victor85 09-26-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
It's an upside note. If he still talks about it now, it means that Dream Act is still alive :D

DA User 09-26-2010 06:00 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
Obama is awesome. So it looks like in the lame-duck session.

2H2F 09-26-2010 06:03 PM

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lmao ^

Qualia 09-26-2010 06:11 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
:| hey debbie downers I watched the interview he does expect it to pass during the Lame Duck.

MiGSTeR 09-26-2010 06:30 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
omg DA just stop lol

Dan P 09-26-2010 06:35 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
Haha DA User....Please just keep it to yourself and don't post your predictions.

DA User 09-26-2010 06:36 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
The next congress starts on Jan 20th? So this has to be done before that time.

lilbawler2001 09-26-2010 06:38 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
Quote:

The Senate last week shot down the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act by a vote of 56 to 43. Every Republican — as well as Arkansas Democratic Sens. Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor — opposed the measure.
Am i the only one who gets annoyed about all the false reporting about the dream act? The vote to proceed to debating the defense bill doesn't reflect on how a vote on the dream act would turn out.

dtrt09 09-26-2010 07:45 PM

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All stick and no carrot...lmao...Iooking back at his statements during his presidential campaign, I cannot believe how stupid we all were to believe he'd pursue justice in immigration. His only claim was to support DREAM Act which he now says is up to Republicans to pass. And DREAM is the easy part...forget CIR with this man in charge. Today in Univision, Jorge Ramos and his news panel they all agreed that no type of reform will pass this year. The great news just keep coming, don't they?

dreamy14 09-26-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 176968)
:| hey debbie downers I watched the interview he does expect it to pass during the Lame Duck.

Wow Undress...I'm more in love with you now than ever ;-)

LOL!

DREAMactASAP 09-26-2010 08:08 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
Why does he have to say this always on a Spanish network?!!

Demise 09-26-2010 08:23 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 176973)
The next congress starts on Jan 20th? So this has to be done before that time.

it starts jan 3rd

at very worst I hope that obama will call a special session right after the elections to get this thing done -.-

Qualia 09-26-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamy14 (Post 176983)
Wow Undress...I'm more in love with you now than ever ;-)

LOL!

I Love you!!!!!

:-*

DA User 09-26-2010 09:09 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 176986)
it starts jan 3rd

at very worst I hope that obama will call a special session right after the elections to get this thing done -.-

So the deadline would be Jan 2nd to pass this before next congress takes over?

What is a special session?

KB24 09-26-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 176992)
So the deadline would be Jan 2nd to pass this before next congress takes over?

What is a special session?

they wouldn't want to work during Christmas and the new years.. so we have until before Christmas

dexcess 09-26-2010 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 176986)
at very worst I hope that obama will call a special session right after the elections to get this thing done -.-

Exclusively for the dream act? I think you have better chance of spotting a unicorn.

DA User 09-26-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KB24 (Post 176998)
they wouldn't want to work during Christmas and the new years.. so we have until before Christmas

They might work though.

KB24 09-27-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 177005)
They might work though.

congress hasn't worked on christmas day or on the new years day for as long as i've been alive.. all you need to know is that they will be back for a lame duck session for about a month so if you have time to make up ridiculous predicitions or worry about when the actual target adjournment date is, go make the extra call or write an email or go watch the news or go take a political science class.

DA User 09-27-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KB24 (Post 177014)
congress hasn't worked on christmas day or on the new years day for as long as i've been alive.. all you need to know is that they will be back for a lame duck session for about a month so if you have time to make up ridiculous predicitions or worry about when the actual target adjournment date is, go make the extra call or write an email or go watch the news or go take a political science class.

Thats just 2 days though. They aren't going away for a week or so.

Sonawabich 09-27-2010 12:28 AM

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This message is hidden because DA User is on your ignore list.

Feels good man

KB24 09-27-2010 12:40 AM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 177015)
Thats just 2 days though. They aren't going away for a week or so.

yea because every single congressmen and congresswomen and all of their family members they all live in washington dc right..? its not like they can just walk down a block to their house and celebrate holiday and walk right back to work the next morning.. its not just 2 days.. they take planes and there are flight delays all the time and its not scheduled so that a senator is going to have to arrive in his/her home state in the morning and get back on the plane that same evening so that they will barely have any family time..

KB24 09-27-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonawabich (Post 177019)
This message is hidden because DA User is on your ignore list.

Feels good man

hahaha i might have to figure out how to do that

Jelly Bean Lover 09-27-2010 11:25 AM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 176966)
Obama is awesome. So it looks like in the lame-duck session.

lmao. I am still trying to figure out how we had 62 votes guaranteed, but the Dream act is still in limbo. DA User, please predict that Dream Act won't pass. Since your predictions never come true, maybe that prediction won't come true as well.

MiGSTeR 09-27-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jelly Bean Lover (Post 177040)
lmao. I am still trying to figure out how we had 62 votes guaranteed, but the Dream act is still in limbo. DA User, please predict that Dream Act won't pass. Since your predictions never come true, maybe that prediction won't come true as well.

+100000

gebodupa 09-27-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
Obama is such a useless president that hearing another one of his speeches just makes me sad that the nation got played like this.

His economic ideas are economically unsound, his socially advantageous ideas will most likely do more bad than good, and his presidential backbone is completely lacking.

The office of the president should be abused for God's sake. That's why you try to get elected president; so you have some greater political and social authority and are able to put some serious pressure on Congress. If you want to do nothing and just make useless speeches than just fucking stay a senator and filibuster the hell out of every bill. When Bush had a plan, whether good or bad, he just put it into action. No "buts" or "ifs", he just made it happen. It's disappointing that he got completely ridiculed at the end and didnt have much of a political backing left at the end, otherwise we might have been able to salvage the 2007 bill.

ivan81 09-27-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by victor85 (Post 2513609)
"And I’m going to push very hard to see if we can get it done."

What happened to "I Will Do Whatever It Takes" to pass the DREAM Act?

MiGSTeR 09-27-2010 02:28 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
YES WE CAN ----> I THINK WE CAN!! ----> Maybe

RJD 09-27-2010 03:00 PM

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just pass the DA this year!

txdream 09-27-2010 06:22 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
Honestly speaking I think there is a low chance unless we have McCain's support. I think we would need to sign a pact with the devil in order to get McCain in.

DREAMactASAP 09-27-2010 06:31 PM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
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Originally Posted by txdream (Post 177080)
Honestly speaking I think there is a low chance unless we have McCain's support. I think we would need to sign a pact with the devil in order to get McCain in.

I don't think even the Devil wants anything to do with the Republican party. Don't insult him.

alex1234 09-27-2010 11:29 PM

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Lol "hopes"

Dreamer X 09-28-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by alex1234 (Post 177119)
Lol "hopes"

shut up fatty mc fat boy. lol jk "hopes"

DA User 09-28-2010 01:23 AM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
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Originally Posted by Jelly Bean Lover (Post 177040)
lmao. I am still trying to figure out how we had 62 votes guaranteed, but the Dream act is still in limbo. DA User, please predict that Dream Act won't pass. Since your predictions never come true, maybe that prediction won't come true as well.

My predictions are still 61/21. It looks like we have a few Reps who are Yays when it comes to a stand-alone. My prediction will come true. Its a matter of time.

DA User 09-28-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ivan81 (Post 177051)
What happened to "I Will Do Whatever It Takes" to pass the DREAM Act?

He recently stated that so we have to patient. It won't happen overnight. There are lot of stuff on the agenda right now.

txdream 09-28-2010 01:50 AM

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DA user I hope your right but then again you though DA would pass july. I don't want to appear as a jerk but I don't want any one of us to get theirs hopes up since they are some racist democrats. Its funny we had a debate about this and a lot of liberals just bashed on the immigrations subject. African americans and whites, personally I don't think any form of immigration reform will be simple to pass. This is way more difficult than healthcare reform just so you guys get an idea.

Feenmi 09-28-2010 02:46 AM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
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Originally Posted by txdream (Post 177080)
Honestly speaking I think there is a low chance unless we have McCain's support. I think we would need to sign a pact with the devil in order to get McCain in.

even with McCain's support, we didn't have McCain's support. He doesn't make a difference.

LMRB 09-28-2010 11:29 AM

Re: Obama hopes GOP will 'come to senses' on DREAM Act after Nov.
 
If you think Obama is bad, imagine what would have happened if McCain, the hypocrite and Palin the idiot that supported Arizona's law had won. We should be glad that he is the president and at least makes supporting remarks (even if it's just politics).


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