Menendez eyes lame-duck session for immigration
 

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politi...n.html?showall

This guy just wants to complicate the chances of dream passing in the lame duck.:roll:

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", but its much to important to be treated as a political footbal..." what a fucken joke... then why the hell don't they provide some insight or ideas instead of just saying no to everything.

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Cornyn always seems to sound like he is for immigration reform, but he is worse than Sessions. I would rather have him come out opposing any path to legalization instead of implying you support pro-immigration reform, but then voting against any form of legislation that provides that.

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Read between the line. Menendez introduces CIR before the lame duck, so that in next congressional session, they'll have a foundation to push for CIR. No where in the interview says that Menendez will push for CIR in the lame duck session :p

Trust me, Dream Act will come back in the lame duck session. Just the matter of whether we get enough votes. It's like a 2007 dejavu for me.

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All I will say is fuck REPAIR, go DREAM! Worry about REPAIR after DREAM passes.

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PLEASE focus on REALISTIC goals during the lame duck season Mr. Menendez like passing the DREAM ACT, REPAIR is going to have to WAIT until next year, how does that feel Menendez, waiting sucks huh ..lol

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wow, is he taking something ? This is not possible at all

I mean even getting Dream to get voted on during lame duck seems a little hasty, imagine a whole immigration bill

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This is awesome. We can pass the CIR/DA.

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When does the Lame-Duck session start?

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I just saw that movie yesterday!!!

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Nov 15 until Dec-ish

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Great. Thats not too far.

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LMFAO Mona.

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Yea isn't this so great guys?? We can pass CIR and DA at the same time!! ... If this prediction fails again, will you not make another nonsense prediction ever again..? and you call yourself a realist.. and when does the lame duck session start? this again shows you have no idea what youre talking about.. you should know that it starts after elections whenever congress is rescheduled to reconvene. there is no set date.

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We were just 8 short in 2007 and recently just 4. So we are getting closer to passage. I could have figured out when the LD session was by Googling.

I just wanted to know the exact date.

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don't count on ben nelson and mark pryor to vote yes for sure

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from what i heard, ben nelson is leaning yes. Mark Pryor is a leaning no

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wow really? where did you hear that? if i had to bet, i would have said nelson is more likely to say no than pryor but its close. my reasoning is because nebraska was debating about that illegal immigration issue and i think a town there voted to not to rent houses to illegals or something like that and nelson would have been pressured to vote no on anything "amnesty"

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These posts are getting out of control, DA User. You can't play fast and loose with those numbers. We were not "4 short" of the DREAM Act last time around; we were 4 short of defense authorization. They are not the same thing! You know what happens when irresponsible predictions are thrown around? Some people -- although I can't fathom why -- will still take your predictions seriously. That will lead to complacency, which we can't have.

On another note, there is no sense in trying to predict who is going to vote what as if this is a game. Instead, just focus on calling, faxing and e-mailing those on the fence. But it seems like this board only mobilizes when a date for the vote is set. That's not the way to win DREAM.

If you've been here as long as some of us have, then you won't relent and just sit back and wait for the news to come.

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DA_USER = REP. GUTTIEREZ

Be Nice

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DA has bi-partisan support.

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I understand that it was really the DADT bill that failed.

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Gut is the man. He is the one in control of this in the House.

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no the whole defense bill failed.. and because of the dream act and not really because of the DADT. how? because minority leader mcconnell asked for unanimous consent to not to discuss any amendments that had to do with immigration (or in other words, he requested that dream act wouldn't be brought up as an amendment). and when reid objected to the unanimous consent request, mcconnell and all of his minions voted no for cloture.

what good is bipartisan support when almost all republicans are either too selfish or too scared to vote yes on the dream act and do what is right even when they might support it deep in their hearts? a correct statement would be DA used to have bipartisan support. blame this ugly political climate and the conservative tea party movement that scares the hell out of the republicans to vote no even on commonsense legislations. don't automatically count on any other republicans besides lugar and maybe bennett to vote yes on dream act.

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DA still has bi-partisan support. You know that but it has to come as stand-alone and/or with CIR.

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Just do us a favor and call it like it is. That does not mean we can't be optimistic about DREAM, but we also have to be prepared.

The DREAM Act having bi-partisan support is now nothing about a talking point. Sure, some senators secretly support it, but that means nothing without an affirmative vote. ONE Republican co-sponsored it: Lugar. While Hatch says he still feels "deeply" about the DREAM Act, he is moving further and further to the right.

We must not lose our sense of urgency. The Dems are poised to lose a lot seats, both in the House and in the Senate. Who is to say that even in the LD session, Republicans -- even those that support DREAM -- will cooperate on DREAM when they might very well be emboldened to defy the Democrats just to spite them. That's why we have to keep pushing.

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http://politics.usnews.com/news/arti...e-duck-session

If Democrats lose many seats, Republican are likely to challenge whether a defeated Democratic majority has the political mandate to pass controversial legislation. Democratic-backed legislation "would be seen as nonlegitimate," said John Samples, a congressional analyst with the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington.

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That's what I'm talking about. Don't get comfortable; we need to put the pressure on.

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We have to prepared when the DA passes.

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http://politics.usnews.com/news/arti...e-duck-session

"If Democrats lose many seats, Republican are likely to challenge whether a defeated Democratic majority has the political mandate to pass controversial legislation. Democratic-backed legislation 'would be seen as nonlegitimate,' said John Samples, a congressional analyst with the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington."

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That's what I'm talking about. Don't get comfortable; we need to put the pressure on.

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yea good luck trying to get graham to vote yes

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Hey everybody. I know we are not suppose to assume who will vote yes or no. But do you guys think it will come down to the votes from the two Nebraska sentors and senator Lugar and Bennett?

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lugar has been a strong supporter but don't count on the republican senator from nebraska mike johanns (not ben nelson the democrat) to vote yes. he won't vote yes

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You are so dense!!

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I'm not 100% sure if Menendez in his own line of reasoning truly believes he can pass CIR during the lame duck session. I think he is either...

1) blinded by his passion
2) doesn't give a rat's ass other than garner Latino votes
3) has some special in-side knowledge that the public doesn't

I don't think he's some super cunning politician so I'll go with 1.

His greed and short sighted thinking is making all of us pay. CIR WILL NOT PASS. NOT IN THIS DECADE. DREAM ACT CAN PASS THIS YEAR, only if we do it the smart way.