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Feenmi 10-29-2010 03:45 PM
Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
At least he confirmed it now. And for those that want to talk crap, understand that by saying this so close to nov 2, it may very well cost him the election.

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WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has promised to bring the DREAM Act, an important piece of legislation for the Latino community, to a vote in the Senate after the November elections -- whether or not Democrats retain their majority.

Reid's remarks will air Sunday on Univision in an interview with host Jorge Ramos. On Twitter, Ramos wrote, "Harry Reid told me that, win or lose, he will present again the Dream Act in the Senate after the elections."

The Huffington Post confirmed Reid's remark with a Democratic source, who said that the exact timeline hasn't yet been worked out. The source noted that because the federal government is operating under a continuing resolution, the first order of business will likely be approving new funding, as well as approving a large number of Obama nominees who have been blocked by Republicans. But the source confirmed that Reid's answer to Ramos on whether he will bring up the DREAM Act was an "unequivocal yes."

Immigration advocates praised the news that the DREAM Act will receive a chance for passage in the lame-duck session of Congress.

"The DREAM Act would give a group of young immigrants here without immigration status through no fault of their own the chance to attend college, serve in the military and earn citizenship," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voice. "These valedictorians, future scientists and future soldiers are Americans in all but paperwork, and we are thrilled that Senator Reid is committed to moving this common-sense measure before the end of the year."

"We support and will be looking for viable efforts to pass the DREAM Act after the election," said Center for American Progress Vice President for Immigration Policy Advocacy Angela Kelley. "In order for that to happen however, like-minded Republicans will have to step forward and show their support for this modest measure to provide relief to young people. There hasn't been a lot to suggest that bipartisan constructive conversation on immigration is possible, but I'd love to be proven wrong."

In September, Democrats added the DREAM Act and a repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell to the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act. Democrats were unable to overcome a filibuster threat by Republicans, who objected to the inclusion of the other two measures.

When explaining why he attached the DREAM Act to the defense authorization bill, Reid explained, "[K]ids who grew up as Americans should be able to get their green cards after they go to college or serve in the military." The Democratic source who talked to The Huffington Post said that a decision has not been made whether the legislation would come up with the defense bill again after the elections.

Reid publicly announcing just a few days before the election that he will push the DREAM Act is quite bold and politically risky. In his tight re-election contest, Republican Sharron Angle has repeatedly gone after Reid for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, with a series of controversial ads including the new "Harry Reid's Amnesty Game".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_775917.html

hgr1915 10-29-2010 03:57 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
The Republicans already said they won't compromise with dems after the elections. That might include Da.

victor85 10-29-2010 04:09 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
This news has lightened up my day !

gzmn_ntn 10-29-2010 04:13 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
Ah man did i read this right, "The Democratic source who talked to The Huffington Post said that a decision has not been made whether the legislation would come up with the defense bill again after the elections"? Are they going to pull that card again? crap. I can understand that this statement can cost Reid his reelection, but I hope they don't plan to do it that way, again.

IceCreamPony 10-29-2010 04:31 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
Feenmi, you sexy beast, you would post this.

Qualia 10-29-2010 05:40 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
Operation -call EVERYONE should start soon right?

Mona Lisa 10-29-2010 09:05 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by hgr1915 (Post 180518)
The Republicans already said they won't compromise with dems after the elections. That might include Da.
Then when will they lol

Feenmi 10-29-2010 09:20 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hgr1915 (Post 180518)
The Republicans already said they won't compromise with dems after the elections. That might include Da.
It most likely will. But only because of the number of Tea Party/anti-immigrant members that will be in congress. The "real" GOP know that if they want a Republican president, they're gonna have a lot of making up to do with Latinos.

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Originally Posted by victor85 (Post 180519)
This news has lightened up my day !
X 10000000

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Originally Posted by gzmn_ntn (Post 180521)
Ah man did i read this right, "The Democratic source who talked to The Huffington Post said that a decision has not been made whether the legislation would come up with the defense bill again after the elections"? Are they going to pull that card again? crap. I can understand that this statement can cost Reid his reelection, but I hope they don't plan to do it that way, again.
Idk, I think the bigger issue with the GOP was DADT, not so much DA. I do hope that they don't do it that way again though. Especially since a few GOP have expressed support for DA outside of the DOD bill.

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Originally Posted by IceCreamPony (Post 180522)
Feenmi, you sexy beast, you would post this.
Lmao. Pony, you're not helping yourself out here, buddy. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 180529)
Operation -call EVERYONE should start soon right?
Yessir.

CookieEater 10-29-2010 10:08 PM
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2007 de ja vu.

IceCreamPony 10-29-2010 10:30 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
No, this is 2010.

We have a black president and Snooki is a celebrity.

Anything is possible now.

j1885 10-29-2010 10:34 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
Thank You Senator Reid. You just proved you don't care risking your political life for supporting legislation you truly believe in. Everyone let's get outthere and help out with what we can. We can DO this Dream Act 2010!

Rocasalada 10-29-2010 11:03 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
People stop saying that, after a decade this is not about politics anymore!

DA User 10-30-2010 12:58 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
What does he mean by win or lose? Does this mean if DA fails, it will be gone for a long time?

DA User 10-30-2010 12:59 AM
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delete

victor85 10-30-2010 01:26 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by CookieEater (Post 180542)
2007 de ja vu.
I know, 2007 DEJAVU !!!!!!

1L-Deferred 10-30-2010 01:30 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
If I were you guys, I wouldn't make plans according to his word. Politicians say a lot of things and make bold promises. There is nothing definite about what he said, and I wouldn't count on it passing. Just plan life accordingly.

I dont know if I am being a negative Nancy or a pessimist, but after 10 years, I think it's good to be hopeful, yet realistic and pragmatic at the same time.

buckminsterfullerene 10-30-2010 01:30 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by Feenmi (Post 180517)
At least he confirmed it now. And for those that want to talk crap, understand that by saying this so close to nov 2, it may very well cost him the election.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_775917.html
Harry Reid while losing in polls to controversial Angle, already has the support from the gambling industry despite his stance on many issues not benefiting them financially, that's huge help considering that they provide 17+% of jobs and over a third of the budget for Nevada, they just benefit from having the third most powerful democrat in the house and its their gamble, plus for a state with the largest unemployment in the country it benefits him not only to have his hands tied to projects that have large employee populations but also the support of people with the financial means of ensuring the economy does not make those projects into failures and more unemployment.

As for him confirming that the DA will come up to vote, it is a very risky move, it may seem to cost him the election, but his opponent already has many controversial ads against him and his stance on immigration, might as well accept them as fact, attack substance of the ads that are too extreme from what would actually be the case and hope that because the ads are very controversial it will end up hurting the opponent more then it hurts him.

I really don't know but this stance really churns the waters, its risky but could work, and it peaks my interest in the Nevada election. Its just good news to hear that the DA will come up in lame duck, I am hoping this means as a stand alone and not only an attachment to the CIR.

gwone371 10-30-2010 01:32 AM
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Thank You Senator Reid!!

But unfortunately the Dream Act is NOT going to pass, because those REPUBLICANS will say no again.

Feenmi 10-30-2010 01:37 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 180556)
He may be saying this in an attempt to hold on to some voters that are disappointed with the way he's handled the Dream Act so that they can turn out on Nov. 2 to vote for him. I really hope he keeps his word on this, please don't give us hope if you're not really serious about helping us.
I really don't think he needs DA to get a bigger turn out from Latinos. If they don't turn out after seeing all of Angle's ads and her position on immigration, they won't turn out for anything. That's just my opinion tho.

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Originally Posted by buckminsterfullerene (Post 180559)
Harry Reid while losing in polls to controversial Angle, already has the support from the gambling industry despite his stance on many issues not benefiting them financially, that's huge help considering that they provide 17+% of jobs and over a third of the budget for Nevada, they benefit from having the third most powerful democrat in the house.

As for him confirming that the DA will come up to vote, it is a very risky move, it may seem to cost him the election, but his opponent already has many controversial ads against him and his stance on immigration, might as well accept them as fact, attack substance of the ads that are too extreme from what would actually be the case and hope that because the ads are very controversial it will end up hurting the opponent more then it hurts him.

I really don't know but this stance really churns the waters, its risky but could work, and it peaks my interest in the Nevada election. Its just good news to hear that the DA will come up in lame duck, I am hoping this means as a stand alone and not only an attachment to the CIR.
You read my mind.

gsb89 10-30-2010 01:58 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
I'm not entirely sure introducing the DreamAct is necessarily a 'bad' thing for Senator Reid. The DreamAct, according to this poll (Q.27 ) seems to be quite a popular piece of legislation in Nevada.

buckminsterfullerene 10-30-2010 02:41 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by gsb89 (Post 180562)
I'm not entirely sure introducing the DreamAct is necessarily a 'bad' thing for Senator Reid. The DreamAct, according to this poll (Q.27 ) seems to be quite a popular piece of legislation in Nevada.
off the people asked by the poll 96% stated they would most likely vote, the remaining 4% would probably vote, now that's just so high its suspicious 8-o.

Unfortunately the results all over the board on the DA, the 500 people polled seemed to favor the DA slightly more, but 500 people is not that many and it depends on how they got the contact information, due to the voter turnout question I am guessing they used records of past voters which would not take into account the youth that might be voting for the first time that might favor us and voters that may have not voted in the past but might be energized to vote due to the huge unemployment rate, this might be a group to worry about.

buckminsterfullerene 10-30-2010 02:49 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 180567)
True, but the problem is politics keeps changing, so we can't really predict if he'll keep his word. The problem he's facing is that we've already seen him in action as the Senate Majority Leader and what has he done on the DA in the past two years? Angle hasn't had the opportunity to act on her extreme stances on immigration because she doesn't have the power to do so but he on the other hand has, and what has he done to move DA/CIR legislation forward? You mean to tell me that if he loses the election he'll still push for the DA? Sure.
They may be words coming from a politician but in his defense he introduced the DA into the DoD bill, which had not been denied in the past 40 or so years so there was some hope it would have gone through if it was not because of the republican filibuster. We need people that favor the bill, he is one that we know to favor the bill and that would vote favorably if it comes up, there are other dems and reps that have given far more ambiguous responses as to their stance or even avoided the subject.

Dukem88 10-30-2010 10:46 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
YEAAAA I will talk some shit right off the bat! ....alright yall ready for the bunker ball busting right now.... Reid is just talking this crap for 3 reasons. 1. Everyone knows hes the latino vote, the Repubs made him out to the the champion of the latinos in almost all of their adds. 2. hes giving an interview at where? univision of course. 3. givin reason one, he is probably careless at this point of the race bc if he loses he can do w.e the hell he wants he aint gonna give two shits what people thinks anymore.

BUT I think he'll definitely introduce it in the lameduck if he loses, for reasons 1 and 3

Alex 10-30-2010 06:33 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
can someone with knowledge in politics (not DA user) tell how would things look out for DA after the elections; suppose republicans gain some seats?.. im really worried, would anyone vote for DA in the lame duck if it does come up?.. are we a lost cause if nothing happens after lame duck???

Mona Lisa 10-30-2010 07:07 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 180612)
can someone with knowledge in politics (not DA user) tell how would things look out for DA after the elections; suppose republicans gain some seats?.. im really worried, would anyone vote for DA in the lame duck if it does come up?.. are we a lost cause if nothing happens after lame duck???
From my understanding republicans wont compromise on controversial issues during the lame duck session. If nothing happens in the lame duck session then Dream or CIR will come up for discussion eventually lol

lilbawler2001 10-30-2010 07:21 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 180612)
can someone with knowledge in politics (not DA user) tell how would things look out for DA after the elections; suppose republicans gain some seats?.. im really worried, would anyone vote for DA in the lame duck if it does come up?.. are we a lost cause if nothing happens after lame duck???
I am sure most of the Dem's would vote for it, and we have at least 2 GOP( Bennet, Lugar) senators promising to vote yes if it comes up as a stand- alone. It all really depends on what happens this Tuesday though. If republicans don't do well as expected, i'm sure they won't be as bold and act like they have a mandate from the voters to stop everything the Dems would try to do.

afloo12345 10-30-2010 10:02 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckminsterfullerene (Post 180559)
Harry Reid while losing in polls to controversial Angle, already has the support from the gambling industry despite his stance on many issues not benefiting them financially, that's huge help considering that they provide 17+% of jobs and over a third of the budget for Nevada, they just benefit from having the third most powerful democrat in the house and its their gamble, plus for a state with the largest unemployment in the country it benefits him not only to have his hands tied to projects that have large employee populations but also the support of people with the financial means of ensuring the economy does not make those projects into failures and more unemployment.

As for him confirming that the DA will come up to vote, it is a very risky move, it may seem to cost him the election, but his opponent already has many controversial ads against him and his stance on immigration, might as well accept them as fact, attack substance of the ads that are too extreme from what would actually be the case and hope that because the ads are very controversial it will end up hurting the opponent more then it hurts him.

I really don't know but this stance really churns the waters, its risky but could work, and it peaks my interest in the Nevada election. Its just good news to hear that the DA will come up in lame duck, I am hoping this means as a stand alone and not only an attachment to the CIR.
You're also forgetting the mining industry in rural Nevada -- Elko County to be exact. He has continuously showed support for mining and shut down any legislation hurting the mining corporations (Unemployment is 7% here, and one of the highest incomes per family). I just cannot believe that people are willing to jeopardize their future for giving a shitty ignorant teabagger a senate seat. We need Harry Reid!

victor85 10-30-2010 10:07 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by afloo12345 (Post 180623)
You're also forgetting the mining industry in rural Nevada -- Elko County to be exact. He has continuously showed support for mining and shut down any legislation hurting the mining corporations (Unemployment is 7% here, and one of the highest incomes per family). I just cannot believe that people are willing to jeopardize their future for giving a shitty ignorant teabagger a senate seat. We need Harry Reid!
Recent polls has continuously shown that Reid is trailing Angle badly.

However, the result of the race all depends on the turn out as well.

lilbawler2001 10-31-2010 09:01 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by victor85 (Post 180624)
Recent polls has continuously shown that Reid is trailing Angle badly.

However, the result of the race all depends on the turn out as well.
That's not exactly true. Recent polls show a very tight race.
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Those figures come from sources tracking the early vote on the ground. Statewide vote totals put out by the secretary of state (not yet official and not including tiny Eureka County) show Democrats lead the early vote by just under 2 percentage points (43-41) – or about 3 percentage points off their 5-point registration edge. But those numbers don't include mail ballots, where Democrats have an edge and boost them just over 2 percent, I am reliably told.
In the U.S. Senate race, I think Harry Reid has a chance to win if that overall edge stays below the historical 6 percent edge the GOP has in midterms – anything more than that and it gets very dicey for him. Not impossible, but difficult.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ral...statewide-ear/

jamesp 10-31-2010 11:50 AM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
Pollsters usually execute the political surveys by making phone calls to a sample set of registered voters. One interesting twist to that process is that many of the young voters under 30 do not have listed land lines; they instead use unlisted cell phone as their primary mode of communication. That's one of the reasons the pollsters were way off on Hilary Clinton during the New Hampshire primary in 08. I am hoping for a similar anomaly this time around. Perhaps the polls included only older register voters who have land lines. And older people are more likely to lean conservative than the younger voters.

buckminsterfullerene 10-31-2010 01:08 PM
Re: Harry Reid Promises Senate Will Hold A Vote On The DREAM Act In Lame-Duck Session
 
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Originally Posted by jamesp (Post 180657)
Pollsters usually execute the political surveys by making phone calls to a sample set of registered voters. One interesting twist to that process is that many of the young voters under 30 do not have listed land lines; they instead use unlisted cell phone as their primary mode of communication. That's one of the reasons the pollsters were way off on Hilary Clinton during the New Hampshire primary in 08. I am hoping for a similar anomaly this time around. Perhaps the polls included only older register voters who have land lines. And older people are more likely to lean conservative than the younger voters.
that certainly seemed to be the case in the poll cited here. Did you see the number of young people, and the expected turnout rate. I just hope that the new wave of voters and those that have not voted in the past go more democratic then republican.


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