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loquito23 12-18-2010 01:40 PM

Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
The dream act failed guys. 5 votes short. This is the worst news I have received in my life. I'm crying right now. I can't believe these republicans had no heart for us. I don't know what I'm going to do now. :-( I had my hopes up but they're down again :( how do you guys feel?

pshhtpshht 12-18-2010 01:42 PM

Re: Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
studying for finals knowing even if i get a good grade it doesnt mean shit.

Gareki 12-18-2010 01:43 PM

Re: Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
I'd like to thank the 5 democrats that voted against the bill for ruining lives.

chlehqls 12-18-2010 01:44 PM

Re: Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
Well, I'm in the process of petitioning for my visa right now. It's just that the Dream Act would've greatly speed up that process of me having temporary relief and the reason why I wanted it so much.

God speed to those who don't have anywhere else to turn to. I prayed, called, e-mailed, and faxed for this legislation and was glad to be in this fight. I don't regret anything.

saint seiya 12-18-2010 01:48 PM

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pshhtpshht , an education from this country means a lot anywhere in the world, trust me :)

Revolutionary Mind 12-18-2010 01:49 PM

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We need to unite harder than even before and not just a select few martyrs. This isnt about a DREAM anymore, this is about Civil Rights and a country who stereotypes us as "good for nothing illegals" if we really want this we need to tell every beneficiary to stand up and join the movement.

NoWhereToRun 12-18-2010 01:51 PM

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pissed...feel like punching walls...what to do now! too old for this...until when? if obama wants he can push for a CIR.

Happygolucky 12-18-2010 01:52 PM

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I still appreciate Senators Reid, Menendez, and Durbin for all their work. They have so much faith in us and our potential. It must be just as heartbreaking for them as it is for us. I will forever be grateful to them.

eddy 12-18-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pshhtpshht (Post 199180)
studying for finals knowing even if i get a good grade it doesnt mean shit.

I know right. I can't take my education to another country, it's just not possible.

californiadreamer 12-18-2010 01:54 PM

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I've been preparing to hear the bad news for weeks now, so by the time I saw the final votes, I wasn't that depressed. I knew what was coming.

I don't know what's going to happen next. I don't think the DREAM Act will pass anytime soon, so my only option to get legal status is to get married. It's not for me though, so I might have to move to a new country.

iNeverHadAChance 12-18-2010 01:56 PM

Re: Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
Let's all have 5 kids each and make them all vote Democrats 18 years later. 700K x 5 = 3.5 Million votes for Democrats.

DreamBaybeh 12-18-2010 01:57 PM

Re: Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
Let's still be grateful for the work of those who keep working to move the bill foward: Reid, Durbin, etc.

Happygolucky 12-18-2010 02:06 PM

Re: Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
I just can't stop thinking of despite how much we call, pressure them, tell them our stories, these politicians can not find their own hearts to give us an opportunity to finally be legal in our country, because the US is our country. I'm so disheartened right now. I just can't comprehend how they are able to sleep at night denying honest, hard-working people a chance to provide something great for this country. We are just pest to them. And, we are not, we are people, we are American just not by birth-right.

getem 12-18-2010 02:15 PM

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lol at i never had a chance .................but im heart felt for those who dont have any other way of legalizing, i dont know what they are going thru now as we speak but if it was me idk what i would do if i was in there position.. for those who has other choice i say dont wait on this, your just putting your life on hold if u can marry just marry, find that person and do it. this is so fucked up of them.

carl 12-18-2010 02:23 PM

Re: Dream act fails 55-41 :(
 
I cannot comprehend it either, Happygolucky. I am not one for optimism but there is a shred of hope we can still hang onto. Harry Reid said he would bring the DREAM vote up again for cloture this coming week if it failed today. Four senators abstained today (55+41=96) so maybe he can get their vote plus one more. If that fails, there is still S.3827 as an amendment to the DOD bill. That is one more hand for Harry to play if the DOD bill comes up for a vote before January 5.

My deepest empathy. As I told my senators, “It’s SAD that the DREAM Act has been diluted into essentially a guest worker program with a long path to LPR status. The DREAM Act as previously written (S. S.729) was unfair enough since these young Americans never violated any immigrations laws intentionally. They should have been granted citizenship five years after they were attending school here in the US. That said, they are grateful to receive any morsels of justice which are extended to them. It is in this spirit that I ask you to vote for the DREAM Act in the coming week. Thank you for your support.”.

CB124 12-18-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by iNeverHadAChance (Post 199196)
Let's all have 5 kids each and make them all vote Democrats 18 years later. 700K x 5 = 3.5 Million votes for Democrats.

Yeah but if you get caught one day, that's 5 kids with a broken family

dado123 12-18-2010 03:06 PM

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Keep moving, we are resilient individuals, a characteristic I know we all share. Heads up will get it soon enough.

RC010 12-18-2010 03:16 PM

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Thanks to all that voted against, you just took all of our happiness away. Well let's keep living and doing what we do.

fd314 12-18-2010 03:21 PM

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Shit happens you guys. The majority of you knew already that it wasn't going to pass, now all we can do is move on and try not to kill ourselves.

g_love 12-18-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 199254)
I guess if you have a petition already through family or employment and you won't have any problems Adjusting your status (i.e. you have 245i coverage), wait it out and complete your green card process.

If you're in a serious relationship that will lead to marriage OR are already married, just go ahead and file your paperwork. No need waiting on this DA Bill anymore, people just won't change their minds and help us.


I've been married 6 yrs to an illegal (in US since age 5) and we have 2 kids now (his mom is even a US citizen now, me and our kids too). I have been to numerous lawyers and none of them can do anything for us and all advised us not to go to MX to file either. The last one we spoke to said that unless the Dream Act passes we are pretty much SOL.

This is frustrating as I have no clue what to do anymore and its not as easy as one would think even with being married. :-?

starsNmoons 12-18-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by g_love (Post 199328)
I've been married 6 yrs to an illegal (in US since age 5) and we have 2 kids now (his mom is even a US citizen now, me and our kids too). I have been to numerous lawyers and none of them can do anything for us and all advised us not to go to MX to file either. The last one we spoke to said that unless the Dream Act passes we are pretty much SOL.

This is frustrating as I have no clue what to do anymore and its not as easy as one would think even with being married. :-?

Im sorry. Im confused. Is there a reason why you can't file for him?

tiredofwaiting 12-18-2010 03:46 PM

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This is some BULLSHIT!!!! i guess its back to london for me

RJD 12-18-2010 04:04 PM

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damn it sucks that it didn't pass :(

it would've been a nice Christmas gift and early 18th birthday present

g_love 12-18-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by starsNmoons (Post 199337)
Im sorry. Im confused. Is there a reason why you can't file for him?

LOL. Im confused too! I've always heard (even on thids msg board) how easy it is to file when you are married to a US citizen, etc. I HAVE filed as a spouse and got it approved HOWEVER we received the notice that we have to go to Juarez, MX to get a VISA (he entered illegally with his mom (who is now a US citizen) at the age of 5).

Anyway, I sure as hell ain't goin' to Juarez, and every lawyer we've seen has advised us not to since he could get a 10 yr ban or something like that.

Am I missing something? Does it depend on the lawyer?

g_love 12-18-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 199332)
My parents are US Citizens too but they can't do anything for me either, it's a tough situation and I undertstand. Did your husband come in with a visa or is he EWI?

EWI with his folks who are both US citizens now. His mom did file for him to no avail, then we got married and I filed as well but we have to go to Juarez and at this point there is no f'in way that'll happen.

g_love 12-18-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 199442)
I believe you can file a waiver since he is your immediate relative (i.e. a spouse), that should waive the 10 yr ban and he should be able to return when the consular process is completed. If he has 245i coverage (if a petition was filed for him before or by April 30, 2001) then he can Adjust his status here without returning to his home country, he'll just have to pay the $1000 fine. A couple of members here have gone through the waiver process and it worked for them. Make sure you speak with a qualified and experienced immigration lawyer on his case.

Yeah, I may look into that waiver, Im guessing thats the hardship one? And thats the thing, we filed in 2005, thats the same thing the ;awyer said re: Apr 2001- he's even married to an illegal and he's an immigration lawyer :?

I'll look into that waiver though- for now, I have a business he works at and he uses my info for online jobs- the only way to go to survive- blah.

g_love 12-18-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 199464)
When did his mom file his initial petition? Was it by April 30, 2001?

She did, she was able to get hers w/out going to MX & I believe theirs (him
& his sis) was filed way before I met them. Thats why she kept telling us we didnt have to go to MX because she was able to fix herself with just the $1k fine.

She says she can't do anything with her original filing since he got married now (hinting we/he screwed up).

tiredofwaiting 12-18-2010 05:55 PM

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theres not enough words that can explain my disappiontment. Now i am left with a decision on wheather i stay or go back home, but if i stay how much longer do i wait. On the other hand, i would hate to go and it passes in a couple of months. What to do? God please help me

themis 12-18-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by g_love (Post 199328)
I've been married 6 yrs to an illegal (in US since age 5) and we have 2 kids now (his mom is even a US citizen now, me and our kids too). I have been to numerous lawyers and none of them can do anything for us and all advised us not to go to MX to file either. The last one we spoke to said that unless the Dream Act passes we are pretty much SOL.

This is frustrating as I have no clue what to do anymore and its not as easy as one would think even with being married. :-?

You mention, his mom is a US Citizen? When she became citizen...what age was he? Did she enter the U.S. legally and then stayed or arrived with family illegally? Just wondering..through his mom...why did the atty say there is nothing they can do to help? Sorry,,,,for the questions....

g_love 12-18-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 199477)
His mom filed a petition for him before April 30, 2001 right? If so, did you guys get married before his mom became a citizen?

Okay we just spoke with her. The mistake was with their father (who is out of the picture now). He filed for HER but not for the kids in the late 80's. Anyway, she became a citizen a little before we got married 2002/3 THEN filed for him (and hs sister). So it would've been too late (post 2001) anyway.

g_love 12-18-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by themis (Post 199839)
You mention, his mom is a US Citizen? When she became citizen...what age was he? Did she enter the U.S. legally and then stayed or arrived with family illegally? Just wondering..through his mom...why did the atty say there is nothing they can do to help? Sorry,,,,for the questions....

Yes his mom became a US citizen a few years ago. I'm not too sure how the story goes but it had to do with their dad who filed for her but not the kids. The father was out of the picture though when they all came back to the US and he (my husband) was a kid (5 yrs old).

So they stayed here, his mom ended up getting a green card and she just became a citizen around 2002/3 then files for them (my husband and his sister). My husband and his sister have both been here since ages 5 & 3 and are still illegal now.

Its stupid really, his mom is now a citizen, we're married (me & our 2 kids are all US citizens) and his sister is also married to a US citizen with 2 kids from US as well.

The last lawyer we went to said post Apr 2001 there really isn't anything we can do but pray for some law to go into effect (Dream Act or something similar). All lawyers have advised us not to go to MX and I definitely will NOT go to Juarez (where we'd have to go anyway) if I can help it.

g_love 12-18-2010 10:38 PM

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Oh sorry, he was about 20 when she petitioned for him because he got married once he was 22 and she said he messed up. Im not sure how all that works.


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