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Lora 12-22-2010 09:12 PM

Obama To Make A Grassroots Push For DA, Won't Engage In Filibuster Reform Fight
 
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Obama To Make A Grassroots Push For DREAM Act, Won't Engage In Filibuster Reform Fight


WASHINGTON -- The White House is preparing a major grassroots push to pass the DREAM Act next year, which President Obama said Wednesday was one of his top priorities after the legislation failed in the recent lame duck session. Acknowledging the next Congress will be much more resistant to the President's agenda, the White House also backs changing the rules of the Senate, although it won't get involved in specific proposals.

On a conference call with journalists Wednesday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the President is willing to "wage a very public campaign" to push the DREAM Act, which would grant undocumented students who were brought into the United States as minors by their parents a path to citizenship through higher education or military service. He added that grassroots activism will be essential to success.

"The President always said on the campaign trail that change comes from the bottom up, and on issues like the DREAM Act, it has to, because there's some real resistance in Washington -- primarily in the other party, but some in our own -- and I think we're going to need to get people activated, and I think you'll see a lot of that over the next months and years," said Pfeiffer in response to a question from The Huffington Post.

During a news conference Wednesday, Obama said he will be reaching out to Republicans who may believe "in their heart of hearts" that passing the DREAM Act is the right thing to do but think the politics are tough.

"Well, that may mean that we've got to change the politics," said Obama. "And I've got to spend some time talking to the American people, and others have to spend time talking to the American people, because I think that if the American people knew any of these kids -- they probably do, they just may not know their status -- they'd say, of course we want you. That's who we are. That's the better angels of our nature."

Pfeiffer said the White House was also frustrated with the slow pace of confirmation for the President's judicial and staff nominees. In the past, Obama has endorsed changing the rules of the Senate, stating, "I will say that, as just an observer of our political process, that if we do not fix how the filibuster is used in the Senate, then it is going to be very difficult for us over the long term to compete in a very fast moving global environment."

Pfeiffer, however, said the White House will not endorse any specific proposal because it's an issue the Senate needs to work out itself. "I'm not sure a president getting involved in a legislative branch matter like that would be viewed as constructive by the other branch," he said.

As The Huffington Post has reported, senators leading the filibuster reform effort have said bipartisan support is building up around three proposals: 1) No longer allowing senators to filibuster the motion to proceed and instead allow a set amount of time for debate, 2) ending secret holds, and 3) stopping filibustering senators from hiding behind quorum calls and forcing them to speak up if they block a bill. Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said to expect "fireworks" on Jan. 5, 2011, the day on which the Senate can, he argued, revamp its rules by a simple majority vote.

By
Amanda Terkel
[email protected]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_800506.html

Please leave comments on Huffington Post's comment section of this article if you can.

static 12-22-2010 09:21 PM

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The White House is preparing a major grassroots push to pass the DREAM Act next year
I'm looking forward to see what will happen. This year has been a tough one for us. Glad it'll soon be over. Just really hope we won't be soon forgotten...

lostpath 12-22-2010 09:22 PM

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It makes me happy to hear things like this now I hope he gets this done soon. I'm getting too old. Need my freedom.

kbs111 12-22-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lora (Post 201965)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_800506.html

Please leave comments on Huffington Post's comment section of this article if you can.

Please don't even look at comments on HP.

There are so many people who are rotten who post there. They don't give two shits if you were brought here at 6 months of age and you saved 10 American lives (just an example) to them ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.

2Face 12-22-2010 09:37 PM

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Lets see if the administration makes good on this promise. After the economy, this has to be the biggest issue along with climate change. It's time to undress those senators who've supported it in the past and voted against cloture this past saturday and also provide the ones like Senator Sessions a chance to make changes to the Dream.

Lora 12-22-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kbs111 (Post 201970)
Please don't even look at comments on HP.

There are so many people who are rotten who post there. They don't give two shits if you were brought here at 6 months of age and you saved 10 American lives (just an example) to them ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.

Yeah!! Thats why we should leave posotive comments/ examples of how the DA is good for America. Honestly how many ppl go out an research legislation??? Not alot. Alot of ppl are Lazy!!! (like 70% of America my estimate lol) if they see A LOTof comments abt how DA is the "Nightmare Act" they will automatically assume that since the majority is against DA it must be true...

If they see how people support it and have valid reasons why this legislation is good they might not associate it as bad. I know this sounds kinda dumb but seriously all of you guys know how dumb ppl will easily believe what Fox news says. The People that say "the law is the law" and are stubborn as F***!

If we promote the DA it's just another way of us putting out positive information out there....

lilbawler2001 12-22-2010 09:46 PM

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Nothing is going to pass the GOP controlled house. Why didn't he do this when there was a more realistic chance of something passing the house?

2Face 12-22-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lilbawler2001 (Post 201981)
Nothing is going to pass the GOP controlled house. Why didn't he do this when there was a more realistic chance of something passing the house?

You're right. He should've done something when the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority. However, he still has a chance to do this in a GOP controlled house if he flexes his muscle and engages the Repubs. He is the President after all. There is no point in thinking about the past now. The past is a sunk cost that we are not going to recover so might as well learn from the lessons in the past and hopefully the President will do the same.

Alex QA 12-22-2010 09:57 PM

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Seriously the little things we can do as an individual is write lots of positive comments , facts and information about the DA we need to defend it , that's the way we can grassroots campaign as one person , every article related to the DA write comments , let's be heard people , 2010 is over it's time for 2011 !!

Lora 12-22-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex QA (Post 201986)
Seriously the little things we can do as an individual is write lots of positive comments , facts and information about the DA we need to defend it , that's the way we can grassroots campaign as one person , every article related to the DA write comments , let's be heard people , 2010 is over it's time for 2011 !!

EXACTLY!!! :)

MiGSTeR 12-22-2010 10:07 PM

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:P start a comment war

Lora 12-22-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MiGSTeR (Post 201989)
:P start a comment war

We should!!!! or we can atleast Fav the pro DA comments and lease flag the anti-DA comments!! they will take them off! LOL

btw miggs wtf is up with skype today?

MiGSTeR 12-22-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lora (Post 201993)
We should!!!! or we can atleast Fav the pro DA comments and lease flag the anti-DA comments!! they will take them off! LOL

btw miggs wtf is up with skype today?

lol We have all the force to do that :P and um regarding Skype I guess ICE found us and forced them to shut down...

Mind/MatterInCali 12-22-2010 10:24 PM

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Hahahahahaha. Comments war!I would love to see what these ignorant motherfuckers look like whhen they can't find a proper counter argument.

Qualia 12-22-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MiGSTeR (Post 201995)
lol We have all the force to do that :P and um regarding Skype I guess ICE found us and forced them to shut down...

FUCKKKKKKK :o. NOPE

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Lora 12-22-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mind/MatterInCali (Post 201998)
Hahahahahaha. Comments war!I would love to see what these ignorant motherfuckers look like whhen they can't find a proper counter argument.

Seriously some douche just said DA will bring "chain migration" I told him to read the bill ect. and flagged him lol

Feenmi 12-22-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 201999)
FUCKKKKKKK :o. NOPE

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andres!!!!! they effin sold out :(

Qualia 12-22-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Feenmi (Post 202002)
andres!!!!! they effin sold out :(

ahaha. i bought 3 of them.

Feenmi 12-22-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 202004)
ahaha. i bought 3 of them.

lying ass mofo. hahah now i want one.

MiGSTeR 12-22-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Feenmi (Post 202006)
lying ass mofo. hahah now i want one.

Here u go feen http://meetthematts.com/wp-content/u...ke-weight1.jpg

RC010 12-22-2010 10:58 PM

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I've been fighting people on youtube for quite a while now. They end up feeling really bad at the end, others just call me a liberal bastards but I like it when people don't have any good arguments, then I just get thumbs ups

dexcess 12-22-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MiGSTeR (Post 201995)
lol We have all the force to do that :P and um regarding Skype I guess ICE found us and forced them to shut down...

Don't lie -- skype's down for everyone.

Mona Lisa 12-22-2010 11:33 PM

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What is a grassroots push ? anyways I hope they don't wait until November 2011 to try to pas something. Do it now while the issue is somewhat hot.

dexcess 12-22-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mind/MatterInCali (Post 201998)
Hahahahahaha. Comments war!I would love to see what these ignorant motherfuckers look like whhen they can't find a proper counter argument.

Engaging in meaningless "feed the troll", comments does nothing to help. It just encourages ignorant assholes seeking attention to post more.

Jaliciense _DREAMER 12-23-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 201983)
You're right. He should've done something when the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority. However, he still has a chance to do this in a GOP controlled house if he flexes his muscle and engages the Repubs. He is the President after all. There is no point in thinking about the past now. The past is a sunk cost that we are not going to recover so might as well learn from the lessons in the past and hopefully the President will do the same.

I totally agree!!!

Ali 12-23-2010 03:13 AM

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the only way this would work is if we ''choose'' a newsource (via google news i guess) to troll for a day (ala daily senator target list we had going on), and we just spam the hell out of the comments section w/the same counter argument list, bumping pretty much every other comment into oblivion.

Anxious 12-23-2010 05:40 AM

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You know who the public needs to hear from is Colin Powell. He has spoke so clearly about why as a nation the dream act has to pass on every level. More pressure from churches as well, people listen in church plus a lot of those who think they oppose dream are most likey Christans. Oh and Oprah, need her to tell some real dream stories, get Oprah army on it!

Nic89 12-23-2010 11:33 AM

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The only chance we have to pass DA or any immigration bill in next congress only if obama include top republicans like: Hatch, Graham, Mc Connel,Snow and Mccain is the main if he can change his mind and turn him back to 2007. Rest of them just line up by them selves, even house republicans anti-reps will feel the fire to take it up and let it pass.

If he can only gets one or tow of them out of this four will be enough to bring hitchison, collins, brown, lugar, murkowaski and many others to line up in supports. Grahm, Mccain and Reid, Schumur and durbin would be a dream team for any immigrtion peoposals.

theboys2010 12-23-2010 01:01 PM

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Listening to a a bunch of senators who are losing power and will not have enough votes to change anything and then having them tell us the party of NO is going to change the rules against themselves just because. BS

dtrt09 12-23-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theboys2010 (Post 202188)
Listening to a a bunch of senators who are losing power and will not have enough votes to change anything and then having them tell us the party of NO is going to change the rules against themselves just because. BS

Great comment - I don't believe a word that comes out of Obama regarding immigration. I do belive that what he said, he said it, at minimun, because of guilt. At most, so that he doesn't keep loosing support from the immigrant community. You guys decide which of the two was the goal here.

But really, right before Christmas..."I know I promised you that you'd be able to earn your place in society, and I'm sorry that I didn't try; but I promise you the sun, stars and moon if you keep me in office".

What a jack a**.

Jaliciense _DREAMER 12-23-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nic89 (Post 202180)
The only chance we have to pass DA or any immigration bill in next congress only if obama include top republicans like: Hatch, Graham, Mc Connel,Snow and Mccain is the main if he can change his mind and turn him back to 2007. Rest of them just line up by them selves, even house republicans anti-reps will feel the fire to take it up and let it pass.

If he can only gets one or tow of them out of this four will be enough to bring hitchison, collins, brown, lugar, murkowaski and many others to line up in supports. Grahm, Mccain and Reid, Schumur and durbin would be a dream team for any immigrtion peoposals.

I strongly agree. Bipartisanship is key here.

Nic89 12-24-2010 02:18 AM

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I hope next time when DA comes around as stand alone bill, they include some border security and high penalties to make republicans happy and let them add amedmends to it, so we can get something done realisticlly. Border security was missing from previus attempt, we cant aford to make same mistake again. Also we need to involved american peoples to our cause to make it heard, DA is suported by majority of amricans and more then 80% among hispinics, asians, and many other minority groups. We need to make awareness of DA in public with positive image that any politicuans will even think twice to talk in oposition to DA.

Jaliciense _DREAMER 12-25-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nic89 (Post 202398)
I hope next time when DA comes around as stand alone bill, they include some border security and high penalties to make republicans happy and let them add amedmends to it, so we can get something done realisticlly. Border security was missing from previus attempt, we cant aford to make same mistake again. Also we need to involved american peoples to our cause to make it heard, DA is suported by majority of amricans and more then 80% among hispinics, asians, and many other minority groups. We need to make awareness of DA in public with positive image that any politicuans will even think twice to talk in oposition to DA.

You have brought up some really important points. Please search Google news for an article on the DA revealing that several students are now focusing on working with Republicans on this bill.

DA User 12-27-2010 12:58 AM

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2011 is the Anniversary of the Dream Act.

dell 01-02-2011 12:10 PM

Re: Obama To Make A Grassroots Push For DA, Won't Engage In Filibuster Reform Fight
 
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Originally Posted by Nic89 (Post 202180)
The only chance we have to pass DA or any immigration bill in next congress only if obama include top republicans like: Hatch, Graham, Mc Connel,Snow and Mccain is the main if he can change his mind and turn him back to 2007. Rest of them just line up by them selves, even house republicans anti-reps will feel the fire to take it up and let it pass.

If he can only gets one or tow of them out of this four will be enough to bring hitchison, collins, brown, lugar, murkowaski and many others to line up in supports. Grahm, Mccain and Reid, Schumur and durbin would be a dream team for any immigrtion peoposals.

problem is that republicans don't want to give obama the victory. Maybe obama has a chance in his 2nd term for three reasons: 1) he has less to lose 2) economy in better shape 3) republicans might be more willing because he's not running again


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