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Immigrant 01-05-2011 03:10 PM

McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...orders-secured

The link says it all...

Rocasalada 01-05-2011 03:28 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
hey just like last year when he said he backed the Dream Act! Oh but I bet this time is for real now, right?

hooligan111988 01-05-2011 03:36 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
HAHAHAHAH!!!! are u kidding me????....this really made my day...best joke ever!!

Erik1421 01-05-2011 03:37 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
I wonder when Sen. Durbin will introduce the Dream Act again. President Obama needs to mention the immigration issue on the State of the Union.

dtrt09 01-05-2011 03:40 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
BREAKING NEWS:

Someone needs to contact the CDC and NIH - this is the first known case of a fully-recuperated Alzheimer's patient.

tlr91 01-05-2011 03:48 PM

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well hes supporting it now for the reason that he will have his seat in the senate for the next 6 years. I think he always supported it since he was one of the first poeple that supported it but he just wasent willing to risk his sit for us, but now that his seat is secured he can now jump back in the DA/CIR wagon without having to worry out about backlash by the people in his state.

Feenmi 01-05-2011 03:54 PM

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And this is Lindsey Graham's cue..

nickbroken 01-05-2011 03:55 PM

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Ajwkwm

chlehqls 01-05-2011 03:56 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tlr91 (Post 204901)
well hes supporting it now for the reason that he will have his seat in the senate for the next 6 years. I think he always supported it since he was one of the first poeple that supported it but he just wasent willing to risk his sit for us, but now that his seat is secured he can now jump back in the DA/CIR wagon without having to worry out about backlash by the people in his state.

It makes sense if you think about it. Risk small backlash from immigration reformists by abandoning Dream Act for re-election. Then after that's settled, back immigration reform while picking up latino votes along the way.

He's good.

Nic89 01-05-2011 04:01 PM

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OMG..... This is the good news I heard since last month DA votes. We all know nothing is possible without GOP's supports. Only way CIR possible in 2011 is with atlest two of these republicans: Mccain, Graham, Mcconel or Hatch. If we can mange to pull Mccain & Graham others like: Hatch, Lugar, Murkowaski, Rubio, Kirk(IL), Snow, Collins, Brown(MS) and others will line up automatically.

Only thing OBAMA has to do is be calm and stay in center and willing to hear from both side. He also needs to remember not to give any Anti bills untill they suports DA or CIR. If he does that King, Smith will come talk on CIR since senior republicans like Mccain,Graham and other wants to work on CIR. On other side Obama, Mcacin and Graham has to work with Bohener and Mcconel to suport it or atlest let it go through.

Its long way to go but its possible with Mccain and Graham. So lets hope for the best.

Dreamer X 01-05-2011 04:03 PM

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what an ass...

DA User 01-05-2011 04:09 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
I love Mccain. He always wanted a CIR and DA but he voted Nay on the DA because of the timing and border security.

Now, I really think CIR/DA will pass in 2011.

pimentel2 01-05-2011 04:12 PM

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After I become a Citizen (if CIR passes), I vow never to vote for Grumpy Old People

jamesp 01-05-2011 04:58 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
wow I think I puked a little in my mouth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 204909)
I love Mccain. He always wanted a CIR and DA but he voted Nay on the DA because of the timing and border security.

Now, I really think CIR/DA will pass in 2011.


iNeverHadAChance 01-05-2011 05:14 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 204909)
I love Mccain. He always wanted a CIR and DA but he voted Nay on the DA because of the timing and border security.

Now, I really think CIR/DA will pass in 2011.

McCain only backs immigration reform only when he knows that it won't pass. That way, he can gain supporters from Hispanics by telling them that "I'm all for Dream Act." and gain supporters from anti-immigrants at the same time by telling them "See? Dream Act didn't pass, I'm still on your side."

MIdreamer 01-05-2011 05:39 PM

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Ok this is the same shit he had been saying. Secure the boarder first, what make you think he is for CIR in the article?

freshh. 01-05-2011 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iNeverHadAChance (Post 204932)
McCain only backs immigration reform only when he knows that it won't pass. That way, he can gain supporters from Hispanics by telling them that "I'm all for Dream Act." and gain supporters from anti-immigrants at the same time by telling them "See? Dream Act didn't pass, I'm still on your side."

I would agree with you, but he just won re-election by pandering to the far right and anti-immigrant crowd. So, what incentive is there for him to come out and even say that he supports CIR now, whether it passes in 2011 or five years from now? Either way he's a douche bag, but I'm just saying that he has his seat for the next few years, so what can Hispanics do for him?

The bottom line is that he could have continued his anti-immigration reform rhetoric. I still don't trust him because he's still saying secure the borders first and we all know that they will never be secure enough. :-|

Romero 01-05-2011 05:57 PM

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Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see

Qualia 01-05-2011 06:08 PM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
In the last few days we've seen Dead birds falling out of the sky in the thousands, we've seen dead fish washing up shore dead in the hundreds of thousands, these deaths may have been caused by a change in the magnetic pole, but i didn't think could change retarded people into rational people. way to go McCain we hate now more than ever.

Jaliciense _DREAMER 01-05-2011 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 204947)
In the last few days we've seen Dead birds falling out of the sky in the thousands, we've seen dead fish washing up shore dead in the hundreds of thousands, these deaths may have been caused by a change in the magnetic pole, but i didn't think could change retarded people into rational people. way to go McCain we hate now more than ever.

Good news. But, I really don't trust him either. Border security cannot be first because, as someone all ready mentioned, the border will never be secure enough. I mean can these Republicans DEFINE what they mean by secure? I think the border security argument is just a stupid excuse for opposition to decent, hardworking people's dreams. That being said, legalization and border security must come together in one bill. This is where Obama and Democrats can compromise with Republicans.

Alex 01-05-2011 08:53 PM

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I want mass deportations!!, buses & trains filled to the max

Jaliciense _DREAMER 01-05-2011 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 204909)
I love Mccain. He always wanted a CIR and DA but he voted Nay on the DA because of the timing and border security.

Now, I really think CIR/DA will pass in 2011.

I agree with your last sentence. Because CIR bills tend to consist of points that aim to reinforce border security, I think CIR has a good/perhaps even a better chance of becoming a reality than the DA as a stand-alone bill in 2011/2012.

rock steady 01-05-2011 09:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 204909)
I love Mccain. He always wanted a CIR and DA but he voted Nay on the DA because of the timing and border security.

Now, I really think CIR/DA will pass in 2011.

Oh so now you REALLY think CIR/DA will pass. So all those other times you predicted easy passage you were just joking right? I get it.

Harvard 01-05-2011 09:24 PM

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you are all sheep

yaystarcraft 01-05-2011 09:32 PM

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As much as I despise McCain for his flip-flopping, we need him for CIR. I'm glad he's on board this time.

gwone371 01-05-2011 09:39 PM

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6 months from now, Mccain will be like "Fuck the CIR, fuck the DA"
he should just retire

dado123 01-05-2011 09:39 PM

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His echoing his current stance, secure the borders first, what the hell does this mean, can you please advise some context, do you wante a Berlin Wall, Barb Wires, 1000000000000000000, border guards, we have no structure to build, it is unclear/ambigious , if Obama would have been on his toes, he would have asked for benchmarks on border security, i.e. increase guards, x-rays, buidling the wall, whatever, now we have to define what a secured border is, after the fact that Obama already spend a lot of resources "securing the border"!

Juan92 01-05-2011 09:43 PM

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wow, vote hungry desperate piece of doody, oh wait ...

kikibay92 01-05-2011 11:18 PM

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McCain is mad

Romero 01-05-2011 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvard (Post 204978)
you are all sheep

Wolf in Sheeps clothing

JohannBernoulli1667 01-06-2011 12:00 AM

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Well now we just have to hope he does not die ( the man is old ) before CIR happens that would really suck.

DA User 01-06-2011 12:57 AM

Re: McCain turns around and now backs CIR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iNeverHadAChance (Post 204932)
McCain only backs immigration reform only when he knows that it won't pass. That way, he can gain supporters from Hispanics by telling them that "I'm all for Dream Act." and gain supporters from anti-immigrants at the same time by telling them "See? Dream Act didn't pass, I'm still on your side."

Well he was the CIR leader back in 2006 and 2007.

DA User 01-06-2011 12:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaliciense _DREAMER (Post 204974)
I agree with your last sentence. Because CIR bills tend to consist of points that aim to reinforce border security, I think CIR has a good/perhaps even a better chance of becoming a reality than the DA as a stand-alone bill in 2011/2012.

DA would be part of CIR if CIR comes up for a vote.

DA User 01-06-2011 01:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rock steady (Post 204977)
Oh so now you REALLY think CIR/DA will pass. So all those other times you predicted easy passage you were just joking right? I get it.

Yes, we have Durbin and Bennett that want to introduce the DA this year and then have Mccain and Menendez/Luis too.

DA User 01-06-2011 01:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 205007)
Well now we just have to hope he does not die ( the man is old ) before CIR happens that would really suck.

He is not that old plus he is healthy and a former soldier.

Qualia 01-06-2011 01:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 205025)
He is not that old plus he is healthy and a former soldier.

hhaha are you defending McCain? McCain the only member of the senate to have serve in the Roman Congress.

DA User 01-06-2011 01:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 205034)
hhaha are you defending McCain? McCain the only member of the senate to have serve in the Roman Congress.

Yes, why not? He is the only who made CIR possible in 2006/2007 for a vote and also the DA in 2007.

Qualia 01-06-2011 01:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 205036)
Yes, why not? He is the only who made CIR possible in 2006/2007 for a vote and also the DA in 2007.

you should get banned again, you do know McCain walked out on 2007 DA right................................

DA User 01-06-2011 01:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres90 (Post 205038)
you should get banned again, you do know McCain walked out on 2007 DA right................................

DA got brought up because of CIR.

Demise 01-06-2011 03:06 AM

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Yeah, with republican house and fucktards like smith we cant assume anything getting done.


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