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minus 08-27-2011 09:30 PM

1 million dreams march?????
 
How hard would it be to organize a million dreamers for a march in D.C?

buckminsterfullerene 08-27-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by minus (Post 232266)
How hard would it be to organize a million dreamers for a march in D.C?

extremely hard. where would they be housed, how would they get there, who would provide the funding for such a large event, food, accommodations, etc., etc.

Though, it does have its considerable strength through numbers and would make one epic statement

DreamerSD23 08-27-2011 11:11 PM

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I think it's possible.

But it needs to start right now, and maybe make it on Immigrant Day (May 1st) so more people would march.

buckminsterfullerene 08-27-2011 11:35 PM

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ohh he meant 1 millions dreams march, not one millions dreamers.... that changes everything... the logistics of organizing 1 millions dreamers would be insane, but a 1 millions dreams march would not be a bad idea.

DreamerSD23 08-28-2011 12:19 AM

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Honestly, I think this could be a great idea.

We can have a speech a la "I Have a Dream" and get the DREAM Act more attention it needs for the public to know our situations.

This is our lives we're fighting for and I could see this as the final push that the DREAM Act needs.

Marco956 08-28-2011 03:20 AM

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I would participate EXCEPT that I can't get out of this shithole haha man it sucks that we can't even drive :(

SuperGSPorty 08-28-2011 03:48 AM

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I'm down let's plan it.

LC15 08-28-2011 12:47 PM

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i think this is a great idea

DreamerSD23 08-28-2011 02:26 PM

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Yea, can we sticky this so more people can see and spread the word?

Ready_to_serve 08-28-2011 04:47 PM

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I have always pictured a march like that, like what MLK did for civil rights with his march at the washington monument. It's really difficult to organize something like this without a coordinator and I'm no leader, but should someone take up the task and organize one, I'll definitely be there.

SuperGSPorty 08-28-2011 05:31 PM

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Mods sticky please

tyler129 08-28-2011 07:19 PM

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So what would happen if all 12 million undocumented immigrants protest in front of the white house?

Ready_to_serve 08-28-2011 07:30 PM

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They pass CIR, do you know how insane that would be, 12 million people is a big crowd, and that's the understatement of the century. I truly believe if that could be accomplished that something will happen-good or bad.

buckminsterfullerene 08-28-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ready_to_serve (Post 232351)
They pass CIR, do you know how insane that would be, 12 million people is a big crowd, and that's the understatement of the century. I truly believe if that could be accomplished that something will happen-good or bad.

12 million outnumber most states in the united states except maybe 4 or 6.

D.C. Has like 600k people. So yeah. Big crowd is indeed a very big understatement.

tyler129 08-28-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ready_to_serve (Post 232351)
They pass CIR, do you know how insane that would be, 12 million people is a big crowd, and that's the understatement of the century. I truly believe if that could be accomplished that something will happen-good or bad.

As one of 12 million, I wouldn't mind spending a couple of days (or weeks) in front of the White House to get CIR passed. And I'm sure the rest of 11,999,999 wouldn't mind either.

dado123 08-28-2011 11:50 PM

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we'd need 250 K dreamers, am up, i'll pay for my own expenses,

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_p...ave_a_Dream%27

Ready_to_serve 08-28-2011 11:55 PM

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who's gonna give the speech for us?

tyler129 08-29-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ready_to_serve (Post 232361)
who's gonna give the speech for us?

Gutierrez... Dick Durbin...

buckminsterfullerene 08-29-2011 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler129 (Post 232365)
Gutierrez... Dick Durbin...

I think he meant who would represent us as a dreamer and give a speech.

I don't know who would be a good speaker for that, perhaps someone new but who is an eloquent speaker and great representative of what can be done.

tyler129 08-29-2011 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by buckminsterfullerene (Post 232371)
I think he meant who would represent us as a dreamer and give a speech.

I don't know who would be a good speaker for that, perhaps someone new but who is an eloquent speaker and great representative of what can be done.

someone who graduated from elite university and WHITE.

DreamerSD23 08-29-2011 06:55 AM

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Yeah we need a DREAMer who is ready to give a speech to end all of our sufferings.

The recent policy change will allow more DREAMers to march who were before afraid of being deported, it's a huge momentum for the DREAM Act.

minus 08-29-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 232401)
Yeah we need a DREAMer who is ready to give a speech to end all of our sufferings.

The recent policy change will allow more DREAMers to march who were before afraid of being deported, it's a huge momentum for the DREAM Act.

This is why I believe now is the time to organize a march of this magnitude. This will not only put the spotlight on us on a national level but certainly world wide attention.

carnivore 08-29-2011 02:20 PM

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Just no Mexican flags this time, okay, please?

Potosino 08-29-2011 09:55 PM

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I've been saying this for years. It's hard but not impossible. Even if there were 100,000 it would still make a huge impact and we would take notice.
Just keep in mind, many DREAMERs are under really tough economic circumstances, and their problem would be getting to and staying in DC.

buckminsterfullerene 08-29-2011 11:27 PM

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A good first step would be getting in contact with the smaller organizations in the local level who are seasoned in some level of activism such that they could start coming up with their own individual plans on how to do this. They could seek the resources or get dreamers that are willing to foot their own bill.

Start setting up national conference calls to bounce ideas around on how to make this a reality

There was an attempt by theniya.org to create the sort of national communication network with organizations all over the country, usually holding monthly conference calls under their get active program, perhaps that could be a good way to reach the necessary interest and momentum from activists to make this a reality.

tyler129 08-30-2011 12:48 AM

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it's funny how if undocumented people knew that they can get legal by coming out to DC all of 12 million people would come out. But, in reality, they're not...

buckminsterfullerene 08-30-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler129 (Post 232492)
it's funny how if undocumented people knew that they can get legal by coming out to DC all of 12 million people would come out. But, in reality, they're not...

There is a need for a group of leaders crazy enough to demonstrate it is possible to come out and be safer. Ironically that has been taking place all over the country. The Chicago 6, the dreamers that protested inside the ICE offices where many are reported daily, the Indiana action, the Georgia four that sat in the middle of the street, the march of dreams from Miami to DC, the dreamer in calif that came out while under deportation proceedings getting extraordinary support for her case (a lot of prominent organizations get started in the attempt to bring attention to certain individuals), and many more.

The estimate a while back was that the US government spends about 20k per person deported, if through the actions of an entire community the cost becomes several times higher as they have to spend time and resources responding to tens of thousands of e-mails, faxes, calls, disruptions and considerable distrust in the entire community, then they are probably more likely to avoid such cases. They have to demonstrate they are not mismanaging money or spending more than estimated, and when a group of people disrupt a bus from leaving a compound filled with people to be deported and people are arrested it increases the cost across the board.

If a hundred thousand came out in support of the dream act in one spot it could create the sort of powerful statement to discourage action against such a movement.

2Face 08-30-2011 10:47 AM

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This is an awesome idea and great discussion. Really hope we can organize something like this. I would be there in a heart beat. If I had the opportunity, I would fast too until they pass the damn bill. The point here is that people are the main power...the more people that show up in the rallies and the more it lasts...the better our chances. But there needs to be one uprising where EVERY undocumented person should be involved. It would obviously take major planning and organization but seriously this seems only option now for CIR advocates. DA still has a chance but CIR is completely dead. Would love to see what the effects would be if every undocumented person stops work for just one week.

DreamerSD23 08-31-2011 12:09 AM

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How can we start organizing this?

Anyone experienced in doing this kind of stuff?

minus 09-01-2011 05:25 PM

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We would have to get in contact with the major pro-immigrants organizations. Can any one provide a list ?

SuperGSPorty 09-01-2011 09:54 PM

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Americas voice online
Ri4a.org
Immigrationforum.org
Dream act coalition (many depending on state)
Esperanza
Chicanos por la Casa
Nclr
Maldef
Etc ...


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