URGENT: We need to pressure congress to pass H.R. 3823 "ARMS Act".
 

The bill could gain momentum and finally bring us out of limbo. We need to pressure in whatever shape or form. Faxes, protests, e-mails, sit-ins, letters, etc.

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Posted by Migster in another thread:

For the dreamers screaming EDUCATION!!! Fine nobody is forcing you all to join the military or to stop fighting for the DREAM Act, all were asking is to please not hinder/sabotage the ARMS Act for the Dreamers willing to go that route. Either we pass the ARMS Act and still fight for the DREAM Act or we can all stay illegals for the next 10 years or so...

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This year looks promising at least for the DREAM Act issue.

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DaUser is that you?

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i couldn't do it...sorry. Unless amended; otherwise it will be used as an excuse by repubs. to say ''we did 'enough' for the immigrants, so we don't need to do shit for 10 more years.''

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I respect your point of view. And, you are right.

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You're completely right...which is why Democrats need to do their jobs and haggle over this to death. They need to present a good narrative, and if they fail, they will lose this issue for inconsistency.

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They need to combine the ARMS act concept with the STEM concept. At least give us a change to take the school route. I do not care if I have to get a Ph.D. There would be no easy route out since getting a Ph.D in any STEM dicipline is pretty tough. I honestly thing more people would join the army instead.

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Hell No!

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Maybe even attach some sort of Border Security to it? Like E-Verify to at least please some of these other Repubs....

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Very true. And, I think that Obama even has to stay low if this happens and not take sides, or he is in deep shit.

But you know, even though I have said that the bill could gain momentum, Republicans, like Lamar Smith, would probably kill the legislation in committee. Many Republicans in the lower house are really far right.

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Very fair. The only problem: Republicans are fucken stubborn.

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DREAM Act will pass this year.

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DA-USER has two accounts....Not fair!! :neutral:

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I will not accept theories that have previously failed. Get proof, then talk to me.

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Man I give up If you all don't want something to pass then Fuck the ARMS Act and Fuck the DREAM Act. I'll just marry some bitch.

Bye Dreamers, I hope in 10-20 years you all would be legalized already. I've never seen such strong individuals overcome tremendous hindrances. Stay strong.

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Do you realize that you still can't get legalized fast being undocumented? I think they require you to still go back to your country, THEN apply for green card (although they fast track it because of the marriage thing). I think it's like a 3 or 10 year ban, unless you just overstayed your visa. Then i think you're eligible to just "adjust" your status. But with illegal entry, it's a ban before applying.......Good luck.

The best hope right now is the ARMS Act.

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Yes, the ban is the problem...being EWI is an issue. I am an overstay and I still think we get ban.

Kingsam73, your picture freaks me out haha

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Haha, it's just like a Druid with an entire galaxy in his hand. Shows he has the power and will.

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Yup. I've seen dreamers (including myself) get their hopes up only to realize that it was all politics (by both sides) and that politicians will tell you what you want to hear.

That's why I'm basing my decision to leave on the following factors:

Dems in the senate
Dems in the House
President
Dems who support the bill
Reps that support the bill
Unemployment rate
Anti-immigrant climate

We just don't have the votes this year so don't get your hopes up. Let's see what happens in November.....however, the composition of the senate will not change much and the house might still be controlled by Reps.

Key thing to remember: Reps won't support the DA until the "border is secured". Blue dog Dems won't support it either. Given this, I don't think it will pass during Obama's next 4 years.

The ARMS Act might get a lot more support from Republicans, but only if the U.S picks a fight with Iran and after the "border is secured" This can take years.....even then, Dems will not support it and Obama will not sign it if it means that Reps give up on the DA. (by feeling that they've done enough for dreamers and CIR).

Obama will win re-election, there's no way of getting around that. As long as the unemployment rate is high, the anti-immigrant climate will remain.

My future is not so bad since I managed to save enough to buy a house (a decent one), so I'm not hating because I probably won't benefit from the DA or AMRS Act.

Don't get me wrong, I want something to pass...I just hate career politicians: 90% of them.

Rather than being optimistic, be proactive. Get an education and hope for the best.

Marching downtown and calling senators, sit-ins, and hunger strikes haven't worked so far, so at the very least focus your hopes and courage on improving yourselves.

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Don't agree with you on some things. But, fair.

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Most of the people that would be taking advantage of the ARMS Act would be Dreamers. Having said that, politicians would rather a college graduate become a pawn in a bureaucrat's chess game. Personally, I want my status to change, considering I have 4.0 GPA in college, but taking my chances on the battle field and fighting a bureaucrat's war seems out of the question. I applaud people who are brave enough to serve in the army. Wish you the best. I'm going to be proactive and pursue my master's degree, because it's not about the job anymore its about the knowledge.

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I understand where you are coming from. But, check out the US Coast Guard web page.

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My buddies signed up for the national guard back in 2003 and within 9 months all of them were in the middle east.

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My interpretation could be wrong, but from these quotes it seems like the Secretary of Homeland security could also choose to grant conditional status to those who choose the college route.

Under section 4 (SEC. 4. CANCELLATION OF REMOVAL OF CERTAIN LONG-
21 TERM RESIDENTS WHO ENTERED THE
22 UNITED STATES AS CHILDREN) , it specifically states the quotes I have pointed out. I could have misinterpreted them though, so I apologize ahead of time.

Though, under SEC. 5. CONDITIONAL NONIMMIGRANT STATUS, it does mention military enlistment. But it may be possible that the Secretary of Defense could possibly grant us such conditional status to dreamers who attend college conditional status.