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dreamy14 06-03-2012 04:34 PM

Sen. Marco Rubio Introduces DREAM Act Compromise
 
Hey guys...I don't know if a version of this article has been posted, but I figured to share it. It also says that a version of Rubio's bill has been introduced by Rivera thru STARS act...which I find a little confusing because I thought his and Rivera's are two separate bills. It mentions something about the military portion, but everything is very vague. I bolded the main points. Check t it out....

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In a strongly partisan election year, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) is trying to build support for a bipartisan compromise on the DREAM Act, a Democratic bill that would provide a path to citizenship for young undocumented immigrants who graduate from college. Some critics argue that the measure is a cynical attempt to build support among Latino voters while offering them little in return.
Rubio's alternative to the DREAM Act would not provide citizenship, but would provide legal status, or a non-immigrant visa, for undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States by their parents when they were minors. They would also need to have no criminal record, graduated from high school and been accepted for admittance to a college.

"The first step I'm trying to make is to deal with children, basically, that were brought here at a very young age, through no fault of their own, find themselves undocumented. ... All I'm trying to do is help these kids do right where their parents did wrong," Rubio said Saturday in an interview on Fox News' "Wall Street Journal Editorial Report."

Rubio, a Cuban-American, is often mentioned as a potential vice presidential running mate for Republican nominee Mitt Romney. This is due, in part, to the possibility that he would help the campaign reach Latino voters. Latino voters have shown strong support for the DREAM Act.

A version of Rubio's bill was introduced Wednesday in the House of Representatives by Rep. David Rivera (R-Fla.). Rivera's bill is called the Studying Towards Adjusted Residency Status (STARS) Act.

Rivera has also introduced the Adjusted Residency for Military Service (ARMS) Act, which would allow the children of undocumented immigrants to obtain permanent residency if they serve in the military.

Rubio's Senate version has yet to be introduced, but he hopes to do so by the end of the summer.

Rubio's proposal would also allow permanent residency for military service. That part of the bill, Rubio said, is not controversial. Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has said he would veto the DREAM Act, but supports a path to citizenship for undocumented workers who serve in the military. The path to permanent resident status for high school graduates who enter college is the most controversial aspect of the bill, according to Rubio.

After a period of time after graduating from college, the immigrant visa holders would be able to apply for a "green card," or permanent resident status. The amount of time they would need to wait is still being negotiated, Rubio said.

When asked if the legislation amounts to amnesty for undocumented immigrants (a policy opposed by many Republicans), Rubio said, "there's a difference that we've long recognized in this country ... between people who have chosen to break the law and be here illegally and those who were either brought here by their parents or by circumstances. When you're 12 years old or eight years old, you don't choose to come to this country illegally. Many of these kids don't even know they're undocumented until they graduate and try to go to college."

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) and Sen. Bob Nelson (D-Fla.) have expressed a willingness to work with Rubio to get the legislation passed, but President Barack Obama had indicated he will not back the bill. In an interview last month on the Laura Ingraham radio show, Rubio complained that the White House was calling Democratic congresspersons to ask them not to support his bill.

In a Sunday editorial for CNN, Charles Garcia, the CEO of Garcia Trujilio, a Latino focused business, said that Rubio is offering "nothing more than crumbs thrown to Latinos."

"Rubio talks about putting a Band-Aid on the patient's little finger, while silently stabbing him in the back," Garcia wrote.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/se...promise-75972/

hooligan111988 06-03-2012 05:03 PM

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??? (one eyebrow up)...wednesday??...this is confusing..

blackbird 06-03-2012 05:17 PM

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A version of Rubio's bill was introduced Wednesday in the House of Representatives by Rep. David Rivera (R-Fla.). Rivera's bill is called the Studying Towards Adjusted Residency Status (STARS) Act.
Meaning that a bill similar to Rubio's bill was introduced, but not Rubio's bill itself.

Dres2011 06-03-2012 05:19 PM

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It's a bullshit article, in the interview I posted yesterday Rubio clearly says Rivera is doing the stars act thing on his own, he said it just before the 1:00 mark.


"I don't know the details of his bill, We take a very different approach"

Smooth 06-03-2012 05:37 PM

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The writer is retarded. What he/she meant to say that a bill that seems to coincide with what Rubio intends to do was presented. Becareful with the media.

Smooth 06-03-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbird (Post 257546)
Meaning that a bill similar to Rubio's bill was introduced, but not Rubio's bill itself.

^this.

Smooth 06-03-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dres2011 (Post 257547)
It's a bullshit article, in the interview I posted yesterday Rubio clearly says Rivera is doing the stars act thing on his own, he said it just before the 1:00 mark.


"I don't know the details of his bill, We take a very different approach"

Yup. Thanks for this post. This is supposed to leave us waiting for what Rubio intends to present.

I just print anything about the STARS Act and use it for toilet paper.

JohannBernoulli1667 06-03-2012 05:44 PM

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Yes, I was reading the same article but I did not post it because I thought it was BS also the source was some Christian bull shit.

Smooth 06-03-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hooligan111988 (Post 257545)
??? (one eyebrow up)...wednesday??...this is confusing..

I say patience . . . He just revealed some elements are still being negotiated . . .

I guess what we can demand is for him to tell us how far exactly he is in writing his bill. How much more?

JohannBernoulli1667 06-03-2012 06:06 PM

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Well, a better question should be... How the fuck does he think that his bill will pass the H.R. ?!?!?!

iDream 06-03-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 257555)
Well, a better question should be... How the fuck does he think that his bill will pass the H.R. ?!?!?!

Well an even greater question, what the fuck will obama do for us, if Rubio's bill dont pass?

cacheton011 06-03-2012 06:47 PM

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Rivera introduces the STARS Act and the ARMS ACT in a couple of months, and yet Rubio isn't finished with his version of the Dream Act? C'mon, everyone should know by now that he's milking the DA.

I hope he proves me wrong and introduces his bill this month. If not, I say we focus on pressuring Obama for an EO.......cuz we all know the Original DA is going nowhere.

hopedreamer2811 06-03-2012 07:22 PM

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I read some of the bill...this concerns me
‘(ii) STEM VISA HOLDER- Visas allocated under section 203(b)(2) shall be made available first to aliens who graduate from a United States research institution with a doctorate or master’s degree in a STEM field and who intend to work in a related field. Visas made available under this clause shall not be counted for purposes of computing any percentage of the worldwide level under this subsection.’.

So if you don't go for the doctorate or master's for the certain fields they want, that's it. It specifically says doctorate or master's. So basically kids like me who need the legalization in order to get finances to go to the universities are screwed. Maybe not, but that's what it's starting to sound like.

DA User 06-03-2012 08:22 PM

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So after the 4 year degree, you can apply for a GC?

hooligan111988 06-03-2012 08:47 PM

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Im like 99.9 % sure that obama won't sign an EO before elections

DA User 06-03-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hooligan111988 (Post 257567)
Im like 99.9 % sure that obama won't sign an EO before elections

He won't need to because DA is more likely to pass before fall semesters.

cacheton011 06-04-2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 257578)
He won't need to because DA is more likely to pass before fall semesters.

I doubt anything will get down before November. If anything, an EO is more likely to happen during Obama's second term.

I would hope that Obama signs an EO by Christmas, but I know that's just wishful thinking....I'll still cross my fingers and hope for the best.

DA User 06-04-2012 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cacheton011 (Post 257597)
I doubt anything will get down before November. If anything, an EO is more likely to happen during Obama's second term.

I would hope that Obama signs an EO by Christmas, but I know that's just wishful thinking....I'll still cross my fingers and hope for the best.

I think Rubio's upcoming DA will pass based on the type of proposal and how it has a bi-partisan support. If it does not pass then I think Durbin's bill will come up after elections and if they fails then I think Obama will do the EO.

victor85 06-04-2012 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 257605)
I think Rubio's upcoming DA will pass based on the type of proposal and how it has a bi-partisan support. If it does not pass then I think Durbin's bill will come up after elections and if they fails then I think Obama will do the EO.

You should read the Rivera's bill for any hints of the Rubio's bill. It seems flawed and rushy to me.

texas972 06-04-2012 02:37 PM

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Look the Stars act will not passed he already introduce 2 parts of Rubios's dream act he introduce the Arms act and nothing has happened

DA User 06-04-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by victor85 (Post 257614)
You should read the Rivera's bill for any hints of the Rubio's bill. It seems flawed and rushy to me.

Rivers's bill is STARS Act. They need to take care of the age limit. 19/21 is not going to work out.

Rev_Scholar 06-04-2012 04:42 PM

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The STARS Act will never pass, so no reason in discussing it. Rubio's bill has more chances, although that is debatable since he hasn't introduced it yet.

DA User 06-04-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by victor85 (Post 257614)
You should read the Rivera's bill for any hints of the Rubio's bill. It seems flawed and rushy to me.

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Originally Posted by Rev_Scholar (Post 257643)
The STARS Act will never pass, so no reason in discussing it. Rubio's bill has more chances, although that is debatable since he hasn't introduced it yet.

It is just a sketch for the real upcoming Rubio's DA.

STARS Act/ARMS Act are just there.


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