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nydreamer 06-20-2012 03:46 PM

Chat With Immigration Lawyer L. Scott
 
Cleared up a few things for me. She is Houston, TX-based, but takes cases from any states if they are willing to work through it via the internet or telephone. I would hire her if I had the funds! I edited the chat and only kept Dream-related questions/answers.

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laurel: Sorry I'm a few minutes late. My Internet Explorer was "updated" and now I can't get the chat to work on it. So, I downloaded Chrome and it works fine, but it took me five minutes.

laurel: So, here I am. Well, much has happened since last we spoke.

laurel: On Friday the President announced that the Department of Homeland Security will grant Deferred Action and accompanying EADs to specific people, i.e. those who might qualify for relief under the DREAM Act were it to pass.

laurel: I will run through the basic eligibility requirements

laurel: In order to qualify for Deferred Action and an EAD, you must: (1) have been under age 16 (age 15 and under) at the time of entry, (2) be continuously present (no departures) for at least five years from the date the memo was published (June 15, 2012) meaning you have to have arrived in the US no later than June 15, 2007, (3) be under age 31 (before your 31st birthday) on June 15, 2012, (4) be in high school, have graduated high school, have a GED, or be dishonorably discharged from the military at the time of the application (i.e. not necessarily by June 15, 2012), (5) be at least age 15 at the time the application is made, and (6) not have any felony conviction, not have at least three misdemeanor convictions, not be a threat to national security or public safety (i.e. no gang members) and not have any "significant misdemeanors". Significant misdemeanors include, but are not limited to: a single DUI, a single Domestic Violence conviction, crimes of violence, drug crimes including simple possesion of marijuana less than 30 grams, and sex offenses.

laurel: Before you ask, it is clear that they will NOT change their minds about: (1) the age requirement for the age at entry, (2) the time requirement that you have to have been here since at least June 15, 2007, (3) the upper age limit that it has to be before your 31st birthday on June 15, 2012, and (4) a single DUI disqualifies you. Let me say this again: a single DUI disqualifies you and the government is not going to change its mind about that. I will say it one more time: a single DUI really, really will disqualify you and the government is not going to change its mind about that.

laurel: While the President announced that effective immediately people who meet these requirements are not subject to removal, it could be up to 60 days before the government creates a procedure for affirmatively requesting deferred action and subsequently applying for an EAD. That means you cannot apply now. It could be two months before you can apply.

laurel: To be clear, even people not currently in removal procedings will be able to apply for this relief. But the process has not yet been created. Experts differ on how many people will be eligible, but estimates range from about 800,000 to 1.4 million.

laurel: We all expect notario fraud to be rampant. Make sure your attorney is licensed. Many of us have started estimating what our legal fees will be. You should expect legal fees to range from about $500 to $1500 depending on the complexity of your case, the experience and reputation of the attorney, and the part of the country (e.g. New York City is more expensive than Oklahoma City).

laurel: Government filing fees will be around $500 plus or minus a few hundred. Fee waivers will be rare.

laurel: Attorneys are likely to begin accepting cases immediately because we have a general idea of what will be required. But we can't actually file for a few months. One thing you can all do now is order certified copies of your birth certificates as I'm 99% sure they will want those and just imagine what will happen when 500,000 people order their Mexican birth certificates at the same time. The Mexican authorities will be overwhelmed and there will be a backlog of several months just to get your birth certificate. Order three copies as this will not be the last time you need to present a certified copy of your birth certificate. You can also be ordering copies of your school records, which I expect will be the preferred proof of five years of presence. Go back further than 2007 if you can.

laurel: To be clear, Deferred Action is temporary relief. It does not lead to a green card. It does not lead to citizenship. It does not allow you to sponsor other people, such as your parents. It does not make you eligible for federal student loans. It does not make you eligible for Medicaid, food stamps or welfare. It DOES make you eligible to get a valid social security card and it DOES make you eligible to apply for a driver's license.

laurel: Ok, let's start taking some questions.

TSK: From Leilei: Hi Laurel! I'm sure you have already been bombarded with questions related to Obama's news on Friday June 15. Luckily, I believe that my husband's younger brother and sister would qualify. Could you explain a little more about this news and also how to get started with the process. Thanks so much and have a great week!
laurel: See what I've just posted and let me know if there are any questions you have that are not answered by what I wrote.

laurel: Ok, I don't see any other questions about EADs for Dreamers so I will start taking the waiver questions..

Markie: Hi. Any idea if applicants will be able to request advance parole or a travel document?
laurel: The government has not yet determined whether they will issue Advanced Parole documents with the Deferred Action/EAD cases. I expect they will not as the whole idea behind Deferred Action is to grant temporary relief from removal where humanitarian reasons preclude removal. That's what Deferred Action is supposed to be for. But if the government then gives permission for these individuals to leave and return and maintain Deferred Action status, then I have to admit it does appear to be an abuse of Deferred Action, IMHO, especially if done on a large scale as a matter of course. Also, there are some unresolved issues regarding Advanced Parole and whether people who were unlawfully present more than a year and leave on Advanced Parole are actually permitted to re-enter. There is some recent case law that further muddies the waters on this. But I would consider it a risky move for any client over the age of 18 and a half.

a_dreamer: EAD question - if someone is under age 30 now but will not be in 2 years at the renewal period, will they continue to be eligible or will they age out of this program?
laurel: Dunno. We don't have the rules for renewal yet. And I don't expect them for another 18 months. But I expect they will grant it, yes, as it has to do with your age on June 15, 2012, rather than your age on the date of the application.

NYDREAMER: 22 / EWI / Married USC 2+ yrs ago. DreamAct eligible. No criminal records, no complications. Is Provisional Waiver happening for sure by year-end? Currently weighing my options and planning to file I-130. Thanks for all you do for us Laurel!
laurel: Nothing is ever for sure in immigration. But Provisional Waivers are a *near* certainty by year end. Actually at the conference, some attorneys were theorizing that it could happen as early as late August or September (which makes me want to pee myself as I'm not ready). If you are eligible for EADs for Dreamers and you appear eligible for a Provisional Waiver, then this is a lucky time for you. Get your EAD as soon as possible and then file your waiver application when it opens up, you can work and drive until it's time for you to go to your consular interview, you're gone for a few weeks, and problem is solved. That's of course if everything goes smoothly, but all that is actually a possibility now where it wasn't a year ago.

laurel: Ok, it is five past. There are still a lot of questions remaining, but things are crazy at my office due to everything that is going on with EADs for Dreamers and Provisional Waivers looming close in the horizon. So, I must get back to work. I will see you all here next week.

DreamerSD23 06-20-2012 03:54 PM

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Thanks a lot for posting this :)

uc_ag 06-20-2012 04:05 PM

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Thanks. This also cleared a few things for me

AngelFace 06-20-2012 04:26 PM

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Thanks will dreamers be eligable to enter college with a scholarship???

xangal 06-20-2012 04:35 PM

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laurel: Nothing is ever for sure in immigration. But Provisional Waivers are a *near* certainty by year end. Actually at the conference, some attorneys were theorizing that it could happen as early as late August or September (which makes me want to pee myself as I'm not ready). If you are eligible for EADs for Dreamers and you appear eligible for a Provisional Waiver, then this is a lucky time for you. Get your EAD as soon as possible and then file your waiver application when it opens up, you can work and drive until it's time for you to go to your consular interview, you're gone for a few weeks, and problem is solved. That's of course if everything goes smoothly, but all that is actually a possibility now where it wasn't a year ago.
Can someone with Immigration experience explain this part?

freshh. 06-20-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelFace (Post 262235)
Thanks will dreamers be eligable to enter college with a scholarship???

Merit based scholarships shouldn't be a problem. We won't be eligible for financial aid from the government, though.

stars 06-20-2012 04:50 PM

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Is this Laurel Scott? I thought she was Houston, TX based. Anyone familiar with her because she is the lawyer I am interested in, is she the one that often has chat transcripts that are posted on immigrate2us.net?

nydreamer 06-20-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stars (Post 262243)
Is this Laurel Scott? I thought she was Houston, TX based. Anyone familiar with her because she is the lawyer I am interested in, is she the one that often has chat transcripts that are posted on immigrate2us.net?

Sorry, she is TX-based. My mistake.
Yes this is the same person.

Sonawabich 06-20-2012 05:05 PM

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thanks a lot

Ianus 06-20-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xangal (Post 262237)
Can someone with Immigration experience explain this part?

The lawyer seems to be talking about the provisional law based on extreme hardship to a US citizen or Permanent resident aka the I-601 being processed in the US.

There is nothing surprising concerning the information,Dream act and any US residency application will require "Good Moral Character" and as much as you try to warn people about these things people will live their lives apparently.

Thanks for the valued information,however!

DA User 06-20-2012 05:45 PM

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What if one applies and only is missing the age cap of 30 requirement?

Chey00 06-20-2012 05:58 PM

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^ lol. XD

Ehm, I think once the time comes (or perhaps now even) someone should start a thread with lawyer references for each state. I don't really know any reputable lawyers in MA. :( so a thread like that with suggestions would be greatly useful. Just a thought... >.>' I've heard of L. Scott and read about her on Immigrate2us.net but the thought of going with a lawyer that's far away worries me. D:

star293 06-20-2012 06:08 PM

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wtf why does that lawyer say we need to bring a birth certificate? it was not mentioned in the dream act eligibility criteria.

It is only required if you are DWI right? I am overstay and my visa shows when i came to us..

Ianus 06-20-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chey00 (Post 262276)
^ lol. XD

Ehm, I think once the time comes (or perhaps now even) someone should start a thread with lawyer references for each state. I don't really know any reputable lawyers in MA. :( so a thread like that with suggestions would be greatly useful. Just a thought... >.>' I've heard of L. Scott and read about her on Immigrate2us.net but the thought of going with a lawyer that's far away worries me. D:

^Try going to Greater Boston's Legal Services and ask specifically for Nancy Kelly.

DA User 06-20-2012 06:29 PM

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I have heard of Scott. She is very popular reputable lawyer.

txgirl 06-20-2012 07:20 PM

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If you cannot afford her fees but would like an attorney as dedicated and knowledgable as she is try Ana Maria Schwartz also in Houston, TX and she is good friends with Laurel and i believe at some point Laurel was Ms. Schwartz Mentor. She also takes cases from all over.

nydreamer 06-20-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by txgirl (Post 262336)
If you cannot afford her fees but would like an attorney as dedicated and knowledgable as she is try Ana Maria Schwartz also in Houston, TX and she is good friends with Laurel and i believe at some point Laurel was Ms. Schwartz Mentor. She also takes cases from all over.

Has Laurel by any chance mentored anyone in New York? LOL.
At the very least, do you happen to know if she has highly recommended any lawyers in New York? I am absolutely in love with her obvious dedication and knowledge. NEED/WANT someone like her BADLY!

2dreamORnot2dream 06-20-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 262268)
What if one applies and only is missing the age cap of 30 requirement?

DA User, you should try applying and let me know what happens! :mrgreen:

txgirl 06-20-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2dreamORnot2dream (Post 262339)
DA User, you should try applying and let me know what happens! :mrgreen:

You will most likely be put in Removal Proceedings and then you could request for Prosecutorial Discretions which in some cases if you prove that you have economic/financial hardship they could allow you to obtain an EAD (Work permit) , at our office we have requested this for some clients who were offered P.D. and we have yet to received an answer.

2dreamORnot2dream 06-20-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by txgirl (Post 262340)
You will most likely be put in Removal Proceedings and then you could request for Prosecutorial Discretions which in some cases if you prove that you have economic/financial hardship they could allow you to obtain an EAD (Work permit) , at our office we have requested this for some clients who were offered P.D. and we have yet to received an answer.

What happens to these people after the PD expires/ends? Are they placed in deportation or is the PD renewed? Is it possible to get permanent residency when being on PD (without marriage, family, work sponsorship)?

Dukem88 06-20-2012 08:15 PM

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(4) be in high school, have graduated high school, have a GED, or be dishonorably discharged from the military at the time of the application (i.e. not necessarily by June 15, 2012.)
So that means you dont have to have ur GED by June 15th, just by the time of application? I would love to ask her that. Because although that seems clear to me, it is all I want to know.

lostpath 06-20-2012 08:23 PM

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I've ask this question on another thread but wanted to ask again just to be sure, I have proof of entry and mostly every year except for 2008 I can't find any documents that would prove I was here will that one year be a problem or will they just ignore that.

Dukem88 06-20-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lostpath (Post 262346)
I've ask this question on another thread but wanted to ask again just to be sure, I have proof of entry and mostly every year except for 2008 I can't find any documents that would prove I was here will that one year be a problem or will they just ignore that.

i think u just have to prove you were here before 16, then prove you were here consecutively since 2007.

txgirl 06-20-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2dreamORnot2dream (Post 262344)
What happens to these people after the PD expires/ends? Are they placed in deportation or is the PD renewed? Is it possible to get permanent residency when being on PD (without marriage, family, work sponsorship)?

The work permit approved by a PD offer is usually good for once year and it can be renewed but nothing more no permanent resident or anything comes from it ONLY work permit but it's extremely hard for DHS to approve it you have to have pretty much and extreme and usually hardship like I said we have request it before and we have yet to receive an answer and or approval.

will_con 06-20-2012 09:43 PM

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Thank you for posting this! Hopefully this will stop the "I have a DUI" questions.

I do wonder what she thinks on using false docs

DreamerSD23 06-20-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by txgirl (Post 262363)
The work permit approved by a PD offer is usually good for once year and it can be renewed but nothing more no permanent resident or anything comes from it ONLY work permit but it's extremely hard for DHS to approve it you have to have pretty much and extreme and usually hardship like I said we have request it before and we have yet to receive an answer and or approval.

Are you saying that it's extremely hard to get approved for an EAD?

txgirl 06-20-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 262388)
Are you saying that it's extremely hard to get approved for an EAD?

To get an EAD through Prosecutorial Discretion yes it is pretty hard or at least I have yet to see it happen. If you look in my previous responses we were talking about removal proceedings and prosecutorial discretion

Demise 06-20-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nydreamer (Post 262337)
Has Laurel by any chance mentored anyone in New York? LOL.
At the very least, do you happen to know if she has highly recommended any lawyers in New York? I am absolutely in love with her obvious dedication and knowledge. NEED/WANT someone like her BADLY!

I will be seeing a good lawyer in NY soon, will make sure to ask him (one of the jewish lawyers with contacts everywhere) about the deferred action thing. If you feel like you want me to ask him something just PM me.

DreamerSD23 06-20-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by txgirl (Post 262393)
To get an EAD through Prosecutorial Discretion yes it is pretty hard or at least I have yet to see it happen. If you look in my previous responses we were talking about removal proceedings and prosecutorial discretion

I'm sorry, but is Prosecutorial Discretion the same thing we (DREAMers under 30) applying for 60 days from now?

If it is then why did Obama make a fuss about employment authorization?

Swim19 06-20-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 262396)
I'm sorry, but is Prosecutorial Discretion the same thing we (DREAMers under 30) applying for 60 days from now?

If it is then why did Obama make a fuss about employment authorization?

No - we will be applying for deferred action, which is different.

txgirl 06-20-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 262396)
I'm sorry, but is Prosecutorial Discretion the same thing we (DREAMers under 30) applying for 60 days from now?

If it is then why did Obama make a fuss about employment authorization?

They are not the same as to get prosecutorial discretion your are pretty much getting your removal case administrative closed and you go back to being undocumented in some cases they let you get an EAD but it's rare.

The deferred action is completely different and you don't have to be in removal to apply.

DreamerSD23 06-20-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by txgirl (Post 262406)
They are not the same as to get prosecutorial discretion your are pretty much getting your removal case administrative closed and you go back to being undocumented in some cases they let you get an EAD but it's rare.

The deferred action is completely different and you don't have to be in removal to apply.

Ah ok, thank you very much for clearing that up.

hooligan111988 06-20-2012 10:29 PM

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if anyone knows a good lawyer in south FL please let me know!1

txgirl 06-20-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hooligan111988 (Post 262411)
if anyone knows a good lawyer in south FL please let me know!1

Google AILA and do a search for an attorney in your area you cannot go wrong with an Attorney who is part of the AILA

starsNmoons 06-20-2012 10:37 PM

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A birth certificate? Now that is going to be difficult! I know i dont have one. Where can you get this? At your embassy?

starsNmoons 06-20-2012 10:40 PM

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Its going to be so hard to prove that I was here from 2007 through now. I didn't even have a bank account till last year, and I wasn't in school. I worked under the table till last year when I started my own business!

freshh. 06-20-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by starsNmoons (Post 262425)
Its going to be so hard to prove that I was here from 2007 through now. I didn't even have a bank account till last year, and I wasn't in school. I worked under the table.

Call your local consulate or embassy and ask them how you would go about getting a birth certificate.

DA User 06-20-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by starsNmoons (Post 262422)
A birth certificate? Now that is going to be difficult! I know i dont have one. Where can you get this? At your embassy?

Do you parents have it? You would have to go to your embassy/consulate for this. Try calling the hospital you were born in also.

Ianus 06-20-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by starsNmoons (Post 262425)
Its going to be so hard to prove that I was here from 2007 through now. I didn't even have a bank account till last year, and I wasn't in school. I worked under the table till last year when I started my own business!

AFAIK,You require proof on paper for 5 continuous years not just be here from 2007.If you can do that you should be just fine.

txgirl 06-20-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by starsNmoons (Post 262425)
Its going to be so hard to prove that I was here from 2007 through now. I didn't even have a bank account till last year, and I wasn't in school. I worked under the table till last year when I started my own business!

Start gathering letters of support fr USc or permanent residents that can say that they have known you for however long and dig thru bills or ANYTHING that has dates and your name.

We get a lot of clients going through cancellation of removal that can't prove their continuous residence so we supplement it with LOTS of letters notirize from people who can vouch for them


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