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Lost Generation 09-29-2012 10:23 AM

MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
http://www.visapro.com/immigration-a...s/?a=1350&z=29

TPS and refugees are included too, idk if us are eligible to apply too? Anyone heard of this before?

Demise 09-29-2012 12:37 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Yes we have, the program is currently closed, unknown if they will allow daca recipients in.

Anyways, not news.

Ianus 09-29-2012 01:05 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
The Pentagon covered the skills shortage during that time period and currently the US is winding down the wars so I am not sure if there is any reason to re-open the program in the short term.

Rev_Scholar 09-29-2012 02:33 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
I've read up on it and I'm pretty sure it requires that we have been here legally for at least 2 yrs or something. And it also requires you to speak a native language. Since most of you here just speak spanish, and since spanish isn't listed as a qualifying language, most of you don't qualify anyways. Just my two cents.

elihu 09-29-2012 02:44 PM

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The program's actually open since May last I heard. The thing is that it's so selective that we're not likely to hear from many people who get in. It's worth a shot checking if DACA recipients could qualify two years from now (since Rev_Scholar is right about the 2 year legal status requirement).

Ianus 09-29-2012 04:30 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Ok,Just did some more checking via google and the program has been closed since last year Dec. 2011 BUT there is a rumor that the program has been reinstated since Sept. 27th,2012 and have yet to be announced by the Pentagon.

It should be interesting if they list DACA applicants as being eligbile for the MAVNI process.

Lost Generation 09-29-2012 05:23 PM

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No the reason why I brought this up is because on the news today they reopen the program

Lost Generation 09-29-2012 05:23 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
In my case I speak Chinese, and it's listed up here

elihu 09-29-2012 05:25 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Hmm.. http://www.defense.gov/news/mavni-fact-sheet.pdf

Not sure. Anyway. Best way to find out is to inquire with a recruiter from the Army, Navy, or Air Force. Army's probs your best bet.

Lost Generation 09-29-2012 05:33 PM

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Yeah til may 2014, I will follow up on this matter in the next few days

Ianus 09-29-2012 05:47 PM

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I just saw this document over at Mavni.info but it doesn't look like DACA applicants are listed and therefore may not be applicable even if they meet the 2 year requirement.

Demise 09-29-2012 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 321747)
I just saw this document over at Mavni.info but it doesn't look like DACA applicants are listed and therefore may not be applicable even if they meet the 2 year requirement.

That document pre-dates DACA. Hard to include something that at a time did not exist.

Rev_Scholar 09-29-2012 06:12 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Mavni is hard to qualify for. Even once you get past all the initial things, are you still fit enough (medically and physically) to pass boot camp? All in all, most of us (if not all) don't have much of a chance. We have a much better shot at the DA passing- which I hope will happen soon.

Lost Generation 09-29-2012 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev_Scholar (Post 321757)
Mavni is hard to qualify for. Even once you get past all the initial things, are you still fit enough (medically and physically) to pass boot camp? All in all, most of us (if not all) don't have much of a chance. We have a much better shot at the DA passing- which I hope will happen soon.

Well it is a path to legalization right? It doesn't hurt to try for guys that fits in that section

Laker24x 09-29-2012 07:32 PM

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Exactly, it's a possible path.

There's no need for discouragement, we're all here to learn.

Sonawabich 09-29-2012 08:38 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev_Scholar (Post 321757)
Mavni is hard to qualify for. Even once you get past all the initial things, are you still fit enough (medically and physically) to pass boot camp?

Absolutely

Rogue414 09-29-2012 08:55 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
I would enlist in the Air Force in a heartbeat.

IcanOnlyDream 09-30-2012 11:16 AM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Oh jeez, I was hoping Italian or Portuguese would be in there.

Ianus 09-30-2012 12:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 321753)
That document pre-dates DACA. Hard to include something that at a time did not exist.

I don't see a date on the document to indicate that it pre-dates DACA,but originally found it here.The admin clearly stated the document was the 2012 sheet and more than likely is after DACA.

HijoEhSu 09-30-2012 12:18 PM

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Remember it is not enough to simply speak the language. You must have the cultural background to be able to qualify for that portion of the program.

Also the military generally requires a continuous legal presence of about 2 years prior to enlisting. This doesn't mean a green card, etc. It applies to TPS, etc.

So yes it is hard to qualify in the sense that meeting the requirements is tough, not that you guys don't have the courage or drive to qualify for it.

Hopefully the DREAM Act passes, so that those of us that want to join the military to gain Residence/Citizenship can do so, and soon.

Demise 09-30-2012 02:22 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 322399)
I don't see a date on the document to indicate that it pre-dates DACA,but originally found it here.The admin clearly stated the document was the 2012 sheet and more than likely is after DACA.

Well it looked exactly the same as a sheet from the previous MAVNI. Sucks that DACA are not included. Maybe we can hope for an EO after elections?

triniboyy 09-30-2012 05:36 PM

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Guys, let me tell you - I signed up for MAVNI and I was contacted recently about it and had to fill out a questionnaire. After I submitted the answers, the guy messaged me back saying I wasn't qualified because I don't speak another language D:

So it looks like they are still recruiting people that are qualified, just on the down low!

Kalnit 09-30-2012 11:36 PM

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Interesting they are keeping it open, discreetly.

I qualify the program, but I'm a bit annoyed that they dont have my health profession listed in the Officer pilot section, which would've been wonderful. Which means I have to go in as one of the enlisted jobs, then put in a request for transfer to Captain position in the Air Force once I am citizen in like a month. Pain in the ass.

Tortoise77 10-01-2012 04:48 PM

Re: MAVNI direct citizenship military program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by triniboyy (Post 322638)
Guys, let me tell you - I signed up for MAVNI and I was contacted recently about it and had to fill out a questionnaire. After I submitted the answers, the guy messaged me back saying I wasn't qualified because I don't speak another language D:

So it looks like they are still recruiting people that are qualified, just on the down low!

How did you sign up? What documents do they require and did you tell them you were DACA? Are you sure you didnt qualify due to language or he was being nice?

Rev_Scholar 10-01-2012 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortoise77 (Post 323688)
How did you sign up? What documents do they require and did you tell them you were DACA? Are you sure you didnt qualify due to language or he was being nice?

What he means in "signing up" is that he basically filled out his information on the website and they contacted him (via email/phone or something). You can do that too if you wanted. Just go on their website.

beto2287 10-03-2012 01:33 PM

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i know some people that enrolled in the military as undocumented, but this happened when troops were being deployed by the bucket load to the middle east. I guess all depends how you talked to the recruiting officer and how well you sell yourself.

MAVNIexpert 12-19-2012 01:43 AM

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DACAs are not eligible to enlist in the US military (yet). The Pentagon has to authorize the DACAs to enlist, and that has not happened yet. MAVNI requires a person to be in a lawful status for at least two years on the date of enlistment, and by the time any DACA has two years of legal status, MAVNI will be closed again (it is only open now temporarily for two years, until September 30, 2014). Also, "deferred action" is not a status that allows for a MAVNI enlistment. You will hear a lot of wrong information from military recruiters; the Marines especially seem confused about DACAs. But every military recruit now has to undergo a DHS check before enlistment, and DHS is not supposed to approve any DACAs to enlist. Here is an accurate article that discusses the situation of DACAs: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/poli...XbO/story.html

MAVNIexpert 12-19-2012 01:44 AM

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If you want more information on MAVNI, check out the MAVNI Info Forum (you can find it on Google). And yes, Portuguese is a MAVNI language. So is Haitian Creole.


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