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arcane 01-08-2013 05:12 PM

Illinois Approves Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants
 
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...186064422.html

MaskedLuchador 01-08-2013 05:23 PM

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This is awesome news! It's going to be a big help for many of our friends and family members who didn't qualify for DACA.

Osito 01-08-2013 05:30 PM

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hooray Illinois!

IamAman 01-08-2013 06:00 PM

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I hope this is a trend that will continue. For a while, the trend was the other way around after 9/11. I wish they would make them all be the same like in Washington, but for people living there, it's great and for the residents there it's great to put safe drivers on the road with insurance rather than those who have nothing with them.

DA User 01-09-2013 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 406677)
I hope this is a trend that will continue. For a while, the trend was the other way around after 9/11. I wish they would make them all be the same like in Washington, but for people living there, it's great and for the residents there it's great to put safe drivers on the road with insurance rather than those who have nothing with them.

I wonder if it will happen in Texas?

arcane 01-09-2013 11:16 AM

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Other states that already allow DL to undocumented immigrants are New Mexico and Washington.

msaccountant 01-09-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 406967)
I wonder if it will happen in Texas?

So do I! :D

It would be great!!!! :)

Congrats Illinois!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Mitcoolhai 01-09-2013 01:46 PM

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What are the requirment for it? Anyone knows?

weste 01-09-2013 09:31 PM

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:)yeah

arcane 01-09-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitcoolhai (Post 407164)
What are the requirment for it? Anyone knows?

The requirements have not been posted as of yet. Might take a month before they announce official requirements and accepted documentation, but it was said to have 2 forms of valid IDs (consular & unexpired passports accepted) and to prove you have lived in IL for at least one year.

DA User 01-10-2013 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by arcane (Post 407085)
Other states that already allow DL to undocumented immigrants are New Mexico and Washington.

I thought Utah does also?

arcane 01-10-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 407565)
I thought Utah does also?

"...Utah provides driving permits."

http://reason.com/24-7/2013/01/08/il...ive-drivers-li

IamAman 01-11-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 406967)
I wonder if it will happen in Texas?

Not a Chance. Rick Perry ordered the DPS to change their policy which was already harsh and then while that was in the courts, held a special session in *edit*2011 to make sure it would become law to check immigration documents for even those renewing.

Maybe in 10 years when the state is more blue things will change. Meanwhile, Hispanics in Texas need to stop voting for Republicans - yes, many still do.

msaccountant 01-11-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 408194)
Not a Chance. Rick Perry ordered the DPS to change their policy which was already harsh and then while that was in the courts, held a special session in 2001 to make sure it would become law to check immigration documents for even those renewing.

Maybe in 10 years when the state is more blue things will change. Meanwhile, Hispanics in Texas need to stop voting for Republicans - yes, many still do.

My folks were watching the local news yesterday and they said something concerning this only I didn't catch it all and I've tried to find something new but haven't had any luck. Ugh I know some of those Hispanics...:(

Perry really needs to go he's been here for almost 12 years now...but I'm scared of what could potentially replace him. :|

IamAman 01-11-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by msaccountant (Post 408206)
My folks were watching the local news yesterday and they said something concerning this only I didn't catch it all and I've tried to find something new but haven't had any luck. Ugh I know some of those Hispanics...:(

Perry really needs to go he's been here for almost 12 years now...but I'm scared of what could potentially replace him. :|

As bad as Perry is, you're right about the possibility of getting someone worse. He got a lot of shit from Romney early on for allowing for instate tuition. On the other hand, when former Houston Mayor Bill White ran against him, Perry kept playing a video by the widow of a cop who was killed by an illegal alien (using their term) and blamed the "Sanctuary City" policies of the mayor. It was disgusting how he was exploiting the murder of a police officer to vilify everybody without papers.

msaccountant 01-11-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 408382)
As bad as Perry is, you're right about the possibility of getting someone worse. He got a lot of shit from Romney early on for allowing for instate tuition. On the other hand, when former Houston Mayor Bill White ran against him, Perry kept playing a video by the widow of a cop who was killed by an illegal alien (using their term) and blamed the "Sanctuary City" policies of the mayor. It was disgusting how he was exploiting the murder of a police officer to vilify everybody without papers.

Yea especially since TX is a very red state.

I remember that I was worried that maybe he'd try to also make a wrong move and him and other TX legislators would try to make it harder on us or something but he actually defended it in his own Perry way.

I remember that I also remember he didn't want to do a debate. Ugh. :roll:

Let's just hope for the best and if the best for now is more Perry then by all means.

dnick12 01-11-2013 09:48 PM

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You guys, we really shouldn't be celebrating this license. I feel like this is all false advertising and there isn't enough word about what this license really is.
They are different than the normal one issued to everyone else in Illinois.

Read this article:
http://www.chicagonow.com/chicanisim...-undocumented/

Any official who stops an immigrant carrying this TEMPORARY driver's license has any right to make the assumption that the person they pulled over is illegal.

I really don't like this legislation and i wish there was more word about what it really is.

msaccountant 01-12-2013 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dnick12 (Post 408619)
You guys, we really shouldn't be celebrating this license. I feel like this is all false advertising and there isn't enough word about what this license really is.
They are different than the normal one issued to everyone else in Illinois.

Read this article:
http://www.chicagonow.com/chicanisim...-undocumented/

Any official who stops an immigrant carrying this TEMPORARY driver's license has any right to make the assumption that the person they pulled over is illegal.

I really don't like this legislation and i wish there was more word about what it really is.

Well here in TX I heard that our Driver's License will have something on it that will let officer's know that we are undocumented. It says LIMITED TERM DRIVER'S LICENSE something that USC's don't have.

arcane 01-12-2013 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dnick12 (Post 408619)
You guys, we really shouldn't be celebrating this license. I feel like this is all false advertising and there isn't enough word about what this license really is.
They are different than the normal one issued to everyone else in Illinois.

Read this article:
http://www.chicagonow.com/chicanisim...-undocumented/

Any official who stops an immigrant carrying this TEMPORARY driver's license has any right to make the assumption that the person they pulled over is illegal.

I really don't like this legislation and i wish there was more word about what it really is.


It was known for a long time they were going to be the TVDL (purple ones), and in IL, police cannot question your immigration status.

Yeah, it sucks it cannot be used as an ID, but at least many will be able to legally drive and obtain better insurance quotes than those low end insurance companies that prey on the undocumented by allowing to insure them with no DL and charge big $$

DA User 01-12-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 408194)
Not a Chance. Rick Perry ordered the DPS to change their policy which was already harsh and then while that was in the courts, held a special session in *edit*2011 to make sure it would become law to check immigration documents for even those renewing.

Maybe in 10 years when the state is more blue things will change. Meanwhile, Hispanics in Texas need to stop voting for Republicans - yes, many still do.

Rick Perry supports CIR/DA. Texas gets in-tuition for undocumented right?

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Originally Posted by msaccountant (Post 408206)
My folks were watching the local news yesterday and they said something concerning this only I didn't catch it all and I've tried to find something new but haven't had any luck. Ugh I know some of those Hispanics...:(

Perry really needs to go he's been here for almost 12 years now...but I'm scared of what could potentially replace him. :|

What kind of news?

IamAman 01-12-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 408814)
Rick Perry supports CIR/DA. Texas gets in-tuition for undocumented right?

Rick Perry has said many things. He supports in-state tuition but he is 100% responsible for turning DPS offices into immigration offices. Texas always required a SSN for a Driver's license and proper ID - translation of a birth certificate, passport, etc. Identity of the drivers was never in question.

He took it upon himself to make sure life would be hard for all immigrants, even those here on a student visa or temporary refugee status by making the drivers licenses expire when their visas expired and nobody who had less than 6 month until their visa would expire could renew.

Then he required those with existing licenses, insurance, etc. come in and show their papers. The result I'd imagine is that there are many more unlicensed (probably no insurance) on the roads now and many lives have been destroyed since they can't have bank accounts, travel, or otherwise live a normal yet hard life.

Even if those with DACA get a driver's licenses, they will for ever have a "star of david " stamped on it to remind them that they are not like the others.

TexasDreamy 01-12-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 408814)
Rick Perry supports CIR/DA. Texas gets in-tuition for undocumented right?

Rick Perry is weird. He signed in the in-state tuition & in-state grants for illegal immigrants laws, but he's also very anti illegal-immigrant.

msaccountant 01-14-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 408931)
Rick Perry has said many things. He supports in-state tuition but he is 100% responsible for turning DPS offices into immigration offices. Texas always required a SSN for a Driver's license and proper ID - translation of a birth certificate, passport, etc. Identity of the drivers was never in question.

He took it upon himself to make sure life would be hard for all immigrants, even those here on a student visa or temporary refugee status by making the drivers licenses expire when their visas expired and nobody who had less than 6 month until their visa would expire could renew.

Then he required those with existing licenses, insurance, etc. come in and show their papers. The result I'd imagine is that there are many more unlicensed (probably no insurance) on the roads now and many lives have been destroyed since they can't have bank accounts, travel, or otherwise live a normal yet hard life.

Even if those with DACA get a driver's licenses, they will for ever have a "star of david " stamped on it to remind them that they are not like the others.

^Pretty much sums it up. Oh and DAUser he does not support the DA/CIR. Yes he signed the TX Dream Act in 2001 but it's not like he came up with the idea. He's an odd strange little man but better than other weirdos.

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Originally Posted by TexasDreamy (Post 409069)
Rick Perry is weird. He signed in the in-state tuition & in-state grants for illegal immigrants laws, but he's also very anti illegal-immigrant.

^Exactly!

turmalina 01-14-2013 01:59 AM

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That's probably more opportunism than anything. :lol: damn politicians


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