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Ianus 06-15-2013 05:54 PM

Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/06/14/bill-...-it-will-pass/
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Former President Bill Clinton is “bullish” that Congress will pass comprehensive immigration reform. Speaking to Alex Wagner on NOW Friday, Clinton expressed optimism about the legislation but suggested Speaker John Boehner would need to break the so-called Hastert rule to do it.

The former president believes there will be enough votes to pass an immigration reform bill, but asks, “Will [Speaker Boehner] allow a bill to be brought to the floor of the House that does not have the support of a majority of his own caucus, but clearly would get a big bipartisan majority in the House?”

So far, Boehner isn’t showing his cards. The Speaker said Tuesday there was “no question” that immigration reform would be passed in the House and Senate and signed by the end of this year. But he started walking that back on Thursday, saying “I don’t intend to bring an immigration bill to the floor that violates what I and what members of my party–what our principles are.”

Boehner has broken the Hastert rule three times already this year, in order to pass the fiscal cliff deal, Sandy relief legislation, and the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act. Clinton applauded the Speaker for those votes, saying, “Every time he’s done that, something good’s happened….I think he understands that it’s an important issue for America; it’s an important issue for the Republican Party if they want to be competitive with all the young immigrants in our country.”

The former president also weighed in on the political climate in Washington, saying a fundamental shift has taken place in this country. He cited the deep division among Americans in the 1960s, culminating with a rash of political assassinations. He said that despite the turmoil, “political leadership continued to hold together…we passed the Civil Rights Act, a Voting Rights Act, an open housing act, anti-poverty legislation. All of it had bipartisan support….there was a political system that was trying to hold the country together even as we were dividing underneath.”

Clinton believes there has been a role reversal when you compare that environment to the political gridlock today, saying “if you look at the support, say, for universal background checks, 80%, 90%, the political system is more divided than the people.”

In the wide ranging interview, Clinton also discussed why he believes Republican efforts to suppress the vote backfired in 2012, and how he thinks New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s political strategy will play outside the Northeast. Watch more of Alex Wagner’s interview with Bill Clinton above.

Happyman0607 06-15-2013 07:23 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
I love bill Clinton, always have.. He's an extremely intelligent guy and knows his stuff.

g33k 06-15-2013 07:32 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
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Originally Posted by Happyman0607 (Post 488768)
I love bill Clinton, always have.. He's an extremely intelligent guy and knows his stuff.

Yeah...just ask Monica lol

Dreamer X 06-15-2013 07:49 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
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Originally Posted by g33k (Post 488774)
Yeah...just ask Monica lol

sex scandal aside. You know he's brilliant.

Demise 06-15-2013 07:56 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
Should've vetoed the IIRCA 1996, asshole.

Happyman0607 06-15-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
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Originally Posted by g33k (Post 488774)
Yeah...just ask Monica lol

I did, she replied with "I did not have any sexual relations with that man"

dtrt09 06-15-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
IIRCA is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Clinton - most Democrats currently 'serving' (cue collective laugh) in Congress voted for it. They also threw the gay community under the bus with DOMA. I don't imagine it would've been possible to sign both of the above if the internet had been used politically as is used now.

Tonyhasadream 06-15-2013 08:44 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
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Originally Posted by Happyman0607 (Post 488789)
I did, she replied with "I did not have any sexual relations with that man"

Mouth hugs!

DA User 06-15-2013 09:52 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
55/60% is all we need in the House anyway.

zone2oo0 06-16-2013 05:51 AM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
that guy and his "threw the gay community under the bus"

lets start using another phrase yeah ?

DA User 06-16-2013 02:18 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
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Originally Posted by zone2oo0 (Post 488866)
that guy and his "threw the gay community under the bus"

lets start using another phrase yeah ?

Yes We Can?

IamAman 06-17-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
I generally like Bill Clinton, but I don't really trust him on immigration issues because the 1996 law which made things far worse was done under his watch and he signed it into law.

What did the 1996 bill do you ask? The 10 year penalty was in there. It also made many more categories where those with green cards could be deported - including false claim of citizenship. So no, Bill Clinton is not a friend of immigrants unless they have big boobs.

DA User 06-18-2013 01:02 AM

Re: Bill Clinton on immigration: “55 or 60%”chance it will pass
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 489227)
I generally like Bill Clinton, but I don't really trust him on immigration issues because the 1996 law which made things far worse was done under his watch and he signed it into law.

What did the 1996 bill do you ask? The 10 year penalty was in there. It also made many more categories where those with green cards could be deported - including false claim of citizenship. So no, Bill Clinton is not a friend of immigrants unless they have big boobs.

It indeed was the most harshest law ever but what about the 245i? I did like the 245i.


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