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DreamBig09 06-26-2013 07:26 PM

Cloture Vote tomorrow!
 
Reid just announced on CSPAN 2 that a vote for Cloture for S.744 will happen.

JJ Glo 06-26-2013 07:56 PM

Re: Cloture Vote tomorrow!
 
So is this the vote that was originally going to take place on Friday?

2Face 06-26-2013 08:15 PM

Re: Cloture Vote tomorrow!
 
Got really confused this afternoon when everyone was talking about the cloture vote. Afterall it was not the cloture on overall bill. People here watching suck at giving live updates..no offense. So any idea what time tomorrow?

Tonyhasadream 06-26-2013 08:38 PM

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When is the final vote?

desice 06-26-2013 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 492655)
Got really confused this afternoon when everyone was talking about the cloture vote. Afterall it was not the cloture on overall bill. People here watching suck at giving live updates..no offense. So any idea what time tomorrow?

I'm really confused by what you're saying:

First of all, the only person to say that the vote was a motion to end debate was me. I think Ianus said twice that CSPAN said it was a "vote to limit debate and amendments." (In the Cspan-2 thread)

Second of all: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2013/s164

Ianus gave you a quote straight off CSPAN, so no offense, but maybe you just have suck at interpreting information given to you via live updates.

2Face 06-26-2013 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by desice (Post 492687)
I'm really confused by what you're saying:

First of all, the only person to say that the vote was a motion to end debate was me. I think Ianus said twice that CSPAN said it was a "vote to limit debate and amendments." (In the Cspan-2 thread)

Second of all: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2013/s164

Ianus gave you a quote straight off CSPAN, so no offense, but maybe you just have suck at interpreting information given to you via live updates.

I don't know man.."Vote to end debate" pretty much means a final vote. But in reality it was a vote to limit debate...who cares anyway..shits coming tomorrow finally!! Hopefully!

2Face 06-26-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonyhasadream (Post 492665)
When is the final vote?

Tomorrow evening or friday I believe. Most likely see it coming tomorrow. Cloture vote to completely END DEBATE ON IMMIGRATION. 60 votes required. This is the vote that Dream Act failed in 2010 when it got only 55 YAYS.

pavpatel 06-26-2013 09:59 PM

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wasn't that a cloture vote today? "limit debate" isnt that what cloture is?

Tonyhasadream 06-26-2013 10:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 492696)
Tomorrow evening or friday I believe. Most likely see it coming tomorrow. Cloture vote to completely END DEBATE ON IMMIGRATION. 60 votes required. This is the vote that Dream Act failed in 2010 when it got only 55 YAYS.

Yeah that's what I thought

unrealunknown92 06-26-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pavpatel (Post 492700)
wasn't that a cloture vote today? "limit debate" isnt that what cloture is?

Cloture vote is to END debate. A vote to limit debate means to reduce the people from taking the floor and talk about the bill and the amount of time they're allowed to speak.

pavpatel 06-26-2013 11:19 PM

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wow. same shit. but whatever.

star293 06-26-2013 11:23 PM

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do you think this immigration reform is a better deal than Dream act?

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-26-2013 11:26 PM

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The Dream Act IS in the CIR. However, an immigration reform is better than a dream act if you take them apart as it would benefit more people. Though some think a Dream Act is better as it has a better chance of passing

Ianus 06-26-2013 11:41 PM

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It was my mistake,I thought it was the Motion to End Debate as I was watching C-span off and on during the day.Well,If the cloture vote on S.744 is scheduled we'll see it sooner rather than later.

desice 06-27-2013 12:28 AM

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I guess it is a bit confusing. When cloture is invoked, debate is limited to 30 hours. The motion that was passed 67-31 Wednesday was a motion to limit debate to 30 hours... so technically they passed a motion to invoke cloture on S. 744, right?

star293 06-27-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 492732)
The Dream Act IS in the CIR. However, an immigration reform is better than a dream act if you take them apart as it would benefit more people. Though some think a Dream Act is better as it has a better chance of passing

Dream act is inculded in the CIR? Can you link to the source?

Alex QA 06-27-2013 12:38 AM

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Y'all bums

desice 06-27-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by star293 (Post 492756)
Dream act is inculded in the CIR? Can you link to the source?

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...-113s744rs.pdf

Starts on page 999

star293 06-27-2013 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by desice (Post 492760)

do DACA approved ppl still qualify for the original dream ac though? We are no longer illegal :O

desice 06-27-2013 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by star293 (Post 492761)
do DACA approved ppl still qualify for the original dream ac though? We are no longer illegal :O

DACA approved people would qualify for the DREAM act stated in the bill if they meet all the requirements. While DACA may give you a two year deferral from deportation, it does not provide you with lawful status. You're still "illegally present" in the United States, however you are not accruing unlawful presence during the two years. Having a work authorization, SSN, and a DL does not make you "legal."

unrealunknown92 06-27-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by desice (Post 492760)

nice find

DA User 06-27-2013 01:40 AM

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So final vote is tomorrow?

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-27-2013 01:48 AM

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wait...... you guys didn't know the Dream Act was in the CIR?

holy shit how late are you guys into this or better yet did you guys actually read the first version of the Senate's bill?

DA User 06-27-2013 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 492776)
wait...... you guys didn't know the Dream Act was in the CIR?

holy shit how late are you guys into this or better yet did you guys actually read the first version of the Senate's bill?

I knew that Dream Act was in the CIR bill.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-27-2013 01:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by star293 (Post 492761)
do DACA approved ppl still qualify for the original dream ac though? We are no longer illegal :O

no we are illegal still just deferred from being deported
however, we are lawfully illegal

Atelier 06-27-2013 02:00 AM

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"...lawfully illegal..." Is such a ridiculous oxymoron.

unrealunknown92 06-27-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 492778)
no we are illegal still just deferred from being deported
however, we are lawfully illegal

Lawfully tolerated illegals?

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-27-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Atelier (Post 492784)
"...lawfully illegal..." Is such a ridiculous oxymoron.

thats DACA for you. in reality, we are not even lawfully or anything. that is something DHS made up so states could accept our EADs.


we are just being deferred from deportation for 2 years that is it. No more no less

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-27-2013 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by unrealunknown92 (Post 492787)
Lawfully tolerated illegals?

not tolerated, deferred


deferred past participle, past tense of de·fer (Verb)
Verb

Put off (an action or event) to a later time; postpone.

pavpatel 06-27-2013 11:47 AM

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why are we having a second vote to limit debate? we just had one yesterday. this shit is so confusing.

Pianoswithoutfaith 06-27-2013 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pavpatel (Post 492867)
why are we having a second vote to limit debate? we just had one yesterday. this shit is so confusing.

Yeah I am so confused right now.

pavpatel 06-27-2013 11:57 AM

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and not only that, they still debated a decent amount about it i feel like. which is the official cloture vote? jesus. I wanna know so I know whether or not we hit 70.

pavpatel 06-27-2013 11:58 AM

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cuz honestly, after yesterday's vote. there were no news articles about it really. I usually read a lot of crap after every little move. I was expecting a barrage of articles.

DreamBig09 06-27-2013 05:43 PM

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told ya ! I came clutch lol


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