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Demise 06-10-2014 08:51 PM
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses his primary.
 
Not exactly immigration related. But with Cantor as a lame duck who knows what can happen this congress?

Quote:
RICHMOND, Va. — It wasn’t enough that Eric Cantor spent $1 million in the weeks leading up to the election, when his conservative foe hardly had $100,000 in his campaign coffers.

It didn’t matter that the House majority leader, 51, branded Dave Brat a liberal hack, and himself as the guardian of the Republican creed. On Tuesday night, Cantor, who was swept into power on a tea party wave, was swept out by the same movement.
Around 8 p.m., the Associated Press pronounced Cantor’s 13-year political career over. Cantor lost the primary to Brat — a university professor who will now be the GOP nominee for the 7th district of Virginia. He’ll have a big edge in November in a heavily conservative seat.


Eighty percent of the vote was in, and Brat was up 56 to 44. Cantor’s allies said in the runup to the primary that they expected him to win with more than 60 percent of the vote. For the past few months, his D.C. allies were wondering how big they could goose the margins.

At the Westin here where the victory party was to occur, the crowd was stunned — at one point, a large projector screen showing the results was turned off. Cantor was whisked upstairs.

He appeared on stage around 8:25 p.m. with his wife and political director, Ray Allen. Wearing a red tie and speaking with a raspy voice, Cantor opened his five-minute speech by saying: “Obviously we came up short.”

He thanked his family for supporting him during a two-decade career, and said serving as a congressman and majority leader was “one of the highest honors of my life.”

“What I set out to do, and what the agenda that I have always said we’re about is we want to create a Virginia and America that works for everybody,” Cantor said. ” And we need to focus our efforts as conservatives, as Republicans, on putting forth our conservative solutions so that they can help solve the problems for so many working middle class families that may not have the opportunity that we have.”

Minutes after Cantor left, immigration protestors stormed the ballroom to push for reform. Cantor was gone — he had been whisked into a black SUV with his wife.

It’s one of the most stunning losses in modern House politics, and completely upends the GOP hierarchy in Virginia and Washington. Cantor enjoyed a meteoric rise that took him from chief deputy whip, to minority whip to majority leader in the span of 13 years. He had long been seen as John Boehner’s successor as speaker.

The loss will ripple across Washington, too: from political consultants who worked for Cantor to his aides who decamped for K Street, there will be reverberations.


Cantor is the second House incumbent to lose this primary season — Texas GOP incumbent Ralph Hall was defeated by a tea-party backed challenger at the end of May.

There were warning signs that kept piling up. In April, Brat supporters vastly outnumbered Cantor allies at local GOP meetings. Then in May, tea party fueled activists knocked off Cantor’s choice for local GOP chair in Cantor’s home base of Henrico County. But Cantor’s aides consistently brushed off the challenge, telling reporters and fellow GOP aides that the contest didn’t merit the media coverage it was getting

Brat severely trailed in fundraising, pulling in $200,000 this cycle compared to Cantor’s $2 million.

But Cantor took the primary challenge seriously.

He held nothing back in April and May: the incumbent spent more than $120,000 printing campaign mailers, $13,000 on yard signs, $370,000 in campaign ads and $30,000 on polling.

National Republicans turned out door-knockers – Cantor’s entire political operation was thrust into full throttle. He was trying to set an example, his allies say. Instead, he became an example.
Source:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...ia-107683.html

swiftp 06-10-2014 09:14 PM
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Rest of GOP: 'welp, definitely not supporting Kids Act or any other bill that can be called amnesty now'

I think this is bad news for a Congress-led CIR bill in my opinion

MitchAPalooza23 06-10-2014 09:16 PM
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^ This. No Republican in their right mind would support/touch any immigration related bill after tonight.

immigration truth 06-10-2014 09:21 PM
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Canada? Australia? Anyone? This country isn't doing shit for immigrants anymore after tonight.

swiftp 06-10-2014 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchAPalooza23 (Post 531403)
^ This. No Republican in their right mind would support/touch any immigration related bill after tonight.
The only good news is that this could be what we needed for executive action this summer--perhaps more generous than originally planned since a compromise is, in my opinion, dead for any kind of legalization or leniency in the House of Reps

MitchAPalooza23 06-10-2014 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by swiftp (Post 531406)
The only good news is that this could be what we needed for executive action this summer--perhaps even more generous than originally planned since a compromise is, in my opinion, dead for any kind of legalization or leniency in the House of Reps
An EO is always on the table, but it wont include everyone. Logically, if there was an EO it would be issued to the parents of DACA beneficiaries. As far as extending that to the millions of undocumented still not covered, seems impossible.

g33k 06-10-2014 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchAPalooza23 (Post 531408)
An EO is always on the table, but it wont include everyone. Logically, if there was an EO it would be issued to the parents of DACA beneficiaries. As far as extending that to the millions of undocumented still not covered, seems impossible.
Maybe not the parents of DACA beneficiaries but parents of USCs...

Transcend 06-10-2014 09:46 PM
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The funny thing is that, in reality, cantor has never been the person to advocate for dream act, or let alone any element of CIR while in office. Now he loses to a challenger who accused him of being pro-"amnesty"....pathetic!

Talk about taking an unexpected turn.

Malign0n 06-10-2014 09:47 PM
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I agree with the statement that all republicans would now be scared to touch immigration, but I think the Cantor defeat was a sabotage by democrats in my state. There was talk of Virginia democrats going to vote in this open primary in order to get rid of Cantor and competing against Brat who would be a much weaker candidate with such extremist views. A democrat could win against him.

MitchAPalooza23 06-10-2014 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Transcend (Post 531413)
The funny thing is that, in reality, cantor has never been the person to advocate for dream act, or let alone any element of CIR while in office. Now he loses to a challenger who accused him of being pro-"amnesty"....pathetic!

Talk about taking an unexpected turn.
If you heard his opponent define "amnesty" it includes anything with a pathway to legalization/ citizenship.

NeedHelp 06-10-2014 10:06 PM
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I think Obama will expand MAVNI program to DACA beneficiaries.

kabs 06-10-2014 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedHelp (Post 531419)
I think Obama will expand MAVNI program to DACA beneficiaries.
Nah, we've already got "something." And we're only at 500K. Immigration groups will be looking at an expanded form of EO.

Demise 06-10-2014 10:18 PM
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Only thing that we really need is a handful of republicans and the bill to actually hit the floor. The votes are likely there. After the primaries they are pretty much untouchable anymore since it'll be an issue of democrats versus republicans, rather than who is the bigger conservative.

Do you think that republican supporters will attract so much wrath that people will vote for democrats to get rid of them? Fuck no.

2Face 06-10-2014 10:36 PM
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Okay Obama brah..Time to pull out the pen and do some major damage on this issue...

Transcend 06-10-2014 10:47 PM
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Why is it that some of us here seem to have settled for mavni?! From what i've researched, very few of DACA beneficiaries would qualify given the specific skill sets they seek and fixed # of individuals the program can enlist in any given year.

Plus it would be illogical for Obama to expand the program for all daca recipients. Just not going to happen.

chocolatedrop 06-11-2014 12:43 AM
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As much as I want Obama to use EO...if he does you might as well say everyone will be in limbo..please don't get me wrong.. I am living proof of DACA to GC,but with the license,SSC and a job great...but no loans,financial aid,no travel,no federal jobs,no Obama care and no sense of security FOH we need some congressional action on this matter..also for the amount of money they will make renewing every 2 yrs congress would care less about ever making us permanent residents and if a Republican ever wins he will reverse Obama's decision on the est 11million undocumented, don't believe so on the DACA recipients...Obama has 3 more years to use his ACE in the hole executive order to get more votes for the democrat elect running for President to defeat a republican "IF" they were losing in the polls..IMO

Cybore 06-11-2014 12:59 AM
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This kinda sucks since he did kinda support dreamers to a small degree and paid the price for it. As has already been said, it means that immigration reform is pretty much dead forever. Even smaller bills like the dream act have little to no chance of passing.

So at this point our only hope is to rely on DACA, hope a Democrat is elected and DACA is kept, and hope for the GOP to not win both chambers? Outside of marriage in order to adjust status, seems like dreamers are screwed.

IamAman 06-11-2014 09:06 AM
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I said it in the other thread and I'll say it here: This may not be as bad as some of you think. Primary elections are famous for gamesmanship. It could very well be that Democrats voted in the GOP primary to get rid of Cantor. Cantor is not a good dude. Beating him in the general election would have been very tough if not impossible. Beating this new right wing extremist is easier. Keep your hopes up.

2Face 06-11-2014 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 531465)
I said it in the other thread and I'll say it here: This may not be as bad as some of you think. Primary elections are famous for gamesmanship. It could very well be that Democrats voted in the GOP primary to get rid of Cantor. Cantor is not a good dude. Beating him in the general election would have been very tough if not impossible. Beating this new right wing extremist is easier. Keep your hopes up.
Yes and Cantor has been playing a major role in stalling CIR from advancing in the House. He got what he deserved. Next is Boehner if he doesn't get his shit together.

Sorrybrah 06-11-2014 09:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 531465)
I said it in the other thread and I'll say it here: This may not be as bad as some of you think. Primary elections are famous for gamesmanship. It could very well be that Democrats voted in the GOP primary to get rid of Cantor. Cantor is not a good dude. Beating him in the general election would have been very tough if not impossible. Beating this new right wing extremist is easier. Keep your hopes up.
My sentiments exactly

MitchAPalooza23 06-11-2014 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 531465)
I said it in the other thread and I'll say it here: This may not be as bad as some of you think. Primary elections are famous for gamesmanship. It could very well be that Democrats voted in the GOP primary to get rid of Cantor. Cantor is not a good dude. Beating him in the general election would have been very tough if not impossible. Beating this new right wing extremist is easier. Keep your hopes up.
That's a big IF a Democrat wins the general election because if not they just basically gave the seat to a more hardliner conservative who is not willing to work on immigration.

IamAman 06-11-2014 12:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 531466)
Yes and Cantor has been playing a major role in stalling CIR from advancing in the House. He got what he deserved. Next is Boehner if he doesn't get his shit together.
Just recently he was bragging about not bowing down to Obama and the Senate. For his troubles, his own party kicked him out for being too soft on us. Canter wasn't going to pass any immigration reform this summer, but he was smart enough to know the GOP is going to be in trouble long term if they continue their anti-immigration rants.

At least now it's all in the open and the lines are drawn. The Tea Party have made us their #1 enemy and have told the GOP candidates that they won't win their primaries if they even bend a little on immigration. Now we know what the party stands for so my guess is in the near term, the GOP may get some hard core right wingers, but those guys are the crazies and will eventually screw it up by saying the wrong thing about rape, gays, women, in addition to their usual hate for immigration and lose the election.

It may take a couple of election cycles for the GOP to wake up and kick the crazies out but then, it was going to take a couple of elections to get immigration reform passed anyway.

Meanwhile, we have to get our citizen friends and relatives to register to vote. There is no excuse to not vote this time.

EditorInChief 06-11-2014 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 531480)
Just recently he was bragging about not bowing down to Obama and the Senate. For his troubles, his own party kicked him out for being too soft on us. Canter wasn't going to pass any immigration reform this summer, but he was smart enough to know the GOP is going to be in trouble long term if they continue their anti-immigration rants.

At least now it's all in the open and the lines are drawn. The Tea Party have made us their #1 enemy and have told the GOP candidates that they won't win their primaries if they even bend a little on immigration. Now we know what the party stands for so my guess is in the near term, the GOP may get some hard core right wingers, but those guys are the crazies and will eventually screw it up by saying the wrong thing about rape, gays, women, in addition to their usual hate for immigration and lose the election.

It may take a couple of election cycles for the GOP to wake up and kick the crazies out but then, it was going to take a couple of elections to get immigration reform passed anyway.

Meanwhile, we have to get our citizen friends and relatives to register to vote. There is no excuse to not vote this time.

In the long term, America will become another Mexico or India. We are immigrating back to those countries no matter who wins. Be happy!!

VeryNicePerson1 06-11-2014 03:12 PM
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I just read about this, holy shit.

IamAman 06-11-2014 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EditorInChief (Post 531496)
In the long term, America will become another Mexico or India. We are immigrating back to those countries no matter who wins. Be happy!!
You lost me there :)

Azul 06-11-2014 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EditorInChief (Post 531496)
In the long term, America will become another Mexico or India. We are immigrating back to those countries no matter who wins. Be happy!!
What?????:-?

johnfreyan 06-11-2014 05:08 PM
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Slain by the very monster they created... I can't help but find sweet, sweet irony in all this.

EditorInChief 06-11-2014 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Azul (Post 531507)
What?????:-?
The population decides everything.



Permanent resident of NEW Africa.

Permanent resident of NEW India

Permanent resident of LARGER Mexico.

Permanent resident of WESTERN China.
.............


We are happily immigrating back to our home countries without knowing it......

kabs 06-11-2014 09:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 531480)
Just recently he was bragging about not bowing down to Obama and the Senate. For his troubles, his own party kicked him out for being too soft on us. Canter wasn't going to pass any immigration reform this summer, but he was smart enough to know the GOP is going to be in trouble long term if they continue their anti-immigration rants.

At least now it's all in the open and the lines are drawn. The Tea Party have made us their #1 enemy and have told the GOP candidates that they won't win their primaries if they even bend a little on immigration. Now we know what the party stands for so my guess is in the near term, the GOP may get some hard core right wingers, but those guys are the crazies and will eventually screw it up by saying the wrong thing about rape, gays, women, in addition to their usual hate for immigration and lose the election.

It may take a couple of election cycles for the GOP to wake up and kick the crazies out but then, it was going to take a couple of elections to get immigration reform passed anyway.

Meanwhile, we have to get our citizen friends and relatives to register to vote. There is no excuse to not vote this time.
I think Cantor losing is a setback because the Republican establishment was pushing back the Tea Party this past year and there was SOME moderate dialing back in rhetoric with immigration reform.

What's going to happen is that Congress gets more Republicans with more extremist tendencies and even if they lose the general election to thy kingdom come, they will NOT bite the hand that feeds them ----- militant, right wing anti-immigration Tea Party members who (thanks to redistricting) will quickly kick them out of the office if they don't go far enough.

Thanks to redistricting, we're screwed until 2020.

IamAman 06-12-2014 09:49 AM
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http://thedailyshow.cc.com/full-epis...harles-schumer Interesting Jon Stewart last night.


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