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Ianus 08-03-2014 12:04 PM
WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...week/13539521/
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White House officials are downplaying stories that President Obama is prepared to take executive action on immigration that would allow millions of undocumented people to stay in the United States.

"The reports you're seeing are uninformed speculation," White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer said on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos.

Pfeiffer said Obama asked the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security to "present him with recommendations by the end of the summer." Those agencies have not yet reported back.

"So let's wait and see what those are before we make judgments about them," Pfeiffer said.

Now that Congress is on August recess without any action on immigration, many people are speculating on what Obama might do -- or try do -- on the politically charged issue.

There will likely be two sets of major Obama announcements in the coming weeks or months: One addressing the recent influx of migrants from Central America, the other on the immigration system overall.

The president is likely to act sooner on the Central American migrants, many of whom are children. In his news conference on Friday, Obama talked about re-allocating resources to move more agents, detention centers, and immigration judges to the border as soon as possible.

Obama is also looking at executive actions on the overall immigration system, given the fact that Congress cannot agree on a "comprehensive" immigration bill.

That assessment is inspiring stories that Obama may consider some of kind of deportation suspension for people who are already in the country illegally.

Such a decision would inspire intense criticism from congressional Republicans, perhaps revving up impeachment talk.

On Fox News Sunday, Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, said: "If the president has decided he's simply not going to enforce any immigration law ... (then) I think Congress has to sit down and have a serious look at the rest of this Constitution. And that includes that 'i' word that we don't want to say."
This would make sense, I think the administration will try to stem any flow first, while seeing what to do after I think announcing such actions NOW might cause adults to try and enter as well. It's all up to AG Holder and Secretary Johnson at this point!

Sorrybrah 08-03-2014 12:11 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Oh Barrack Obama you never fail to impress.

swordfish 08-03-2014 12:58 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Nop, I'm not surprised playing with people hopes is what politicians do best.

dtrt09 08-03-2014 03:29 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Ppl should watch Cecilia Munoz on "Al Punto" today...politics at its best. She was asked why "if CIR it's clearly not going anywhere, why is the President delaying doing anything about it?" She answered that it is to give Congress time to pass "permanent" solutions. Waffle. She was then asked how will the White House own responsibility for failure to achieve CIR.

She then went on and on and on about 218 votes in the House....the Republicans....blah, blah, blah, "this is why the President said he is going to do....fill-in-the-blank....blah, blah, blah. The Republicans...mumble...mumble...but "we don't have a date".

There are only four months left in the year. The White House has effectively bought itself one more year of doing nothing for the immigrant community.

Quote:
Pfeiffer said Obama asked the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security to "present him with recommendations by the end of the summer." Those agencies have not yet reported back.
Really?

So, what exactly were they doing between March and June when the president said he had ordered them to review and draft a plan to provide relief? The President came out and said he told Johnson to hold off releasing recommendations; so does the White House know them and didn't like them or did they not do it at all?

MIdreamer 08-03-2014 04:39 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Not surprising at all, Obama has to backpedal with all the recent influx of migrants. Can you imagine how GOP will take advantage of this issue. They can blame all the problem with recent influx of migrants on Obama, saying that the reason people keep coming is because of Obama's EO which attract people to come. It will make democrat vulnerable in the up coming election.

I understand that people want some kind of EO for their family, but let's look at the big picture here. Do you want GOP to win the up coming election? Democrats are already in a bad position; Republicans really have a chance to take back the Senate. I think the best strategic move right now is not to extend DACA to other undocumented migrants. Let's wait until after the election and see how things are going.

dtrt09 08-03-2014 04:49 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 536674)
Not surprising at all, Obama has to backpedal with all the recent influx of migrants. Can you imagine how GOP will take advantage of this issue. They can blame all the problem with recent influx of migrants on Obama, saying that the reason people keep coming is because of Obama's EO which attract people to come. It will make democrat vulnerable in the up coming election.

I understand that people want some kind of EO for their family, but let's look at the big picture here. Do you want GOP to win the up coming election? Democrats are already in a bad position; Republicans really have a chance to take back the Senate. I think the best strategic move right now is not to extend DACA to other undocumented migrants. Let's wait until after the election and see how things are going.
Bullshit. Not to you, but to the White House's reasons. Last year, exactly at the same time, it was the "crisis" in Syria. Nothing else needs to have perfect conditions for the White House to act; only immigration. Waiting for what?

To cover themselves of the mess that the administration has itself created?

"Oh, we're sorry, we've waited and now that we've waited, well, the future is here and now is 2014 and we have all these other things that need to be done, and we procrastinated and played with your life and your families and we don't know how to get out of this. We have no plan".

I'm sure this forum is trolled by WhiteHouse apologists, 'advocates' (someone we've never met who sits at the White House and argues for "us"; hahahaha) and so-called writers like the one that kept plugging her articles here a while back, for ideas and so forth. At times, when I check twitter timelines is as if they hack their "thoughts" and "ideas" from the posts here.

MIdreamer 08-03-2014 04:56 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 536675)
Bullshit. Not to you, but to the White House's reasons. Last year, exactly at the same time, it was the "crisis" in Syria. Nothing else needs to have perfect conditions for the White House to act; only immigration. Waiting for what?

To cover themselves of the mess that the administration has itself created?

"Oh, we're sorry, we've waited and now that we've waited, well, the future is here and now is 2014 and we have all these other things that need to be done, and we procrastinated and played with your life and your families and we don't know how to get out of this. We have no plan".
So do you suggest extending DACA to majority of migrants already here right now? This is almost a perfect attack point for GOP. Syrian weren't exactly crossing the border by the thousands every week and White House never intended to extend DACA last year. We are all expecting him to do it this year (election year) to gain Hispanic votes. The influx of immigrants came in between and it really isn't a good time to extend DACA. White House has to adjust. I can't imagine a GOP controlled House and Senate, White House would be the last defense for DACA if that happen this November. At that point, we won't be talking about extending DACA, we will be fighting to maintain DACA as it is.

dtrt09 08-03-2014 05:07 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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White House never intended to extend DACA last year. We are all expecting him to do it this year (election year) to gain Hispanic votes.


I don't know which community you live in, but the "Hispanic" community is more than disenchanted with this president, and no, from what I know, see, hear, in my family and around other non-Hispanic "communities", if he's doing it for votes, the votes ain't coming. Lots of mixed-status families have permanent resident who simply WILL NOT file for naturalization until their family members are safe here. Sorry. And doing "something" late might, *might* motivate half to naturalize by the 2016 election, but it is not helping on this one.

Do it because it's the right thing to do; if you talk about it in moral terms, this is it. If you only talk about how much more $$ immigrant labor will bring, well, then...I guess we're screwed. He could remove that age-cap on DACA. Excluding older dreamers has not done anyone any favors.

MIdreamer 08-03-2014 05:22 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 536678)

I don't know which community you live in, but the "Hispanic" community is more than disenchanted with this president, and no, from what I know, see, hear, in my family and around other non-Hispanic "communities", if he's doing it for votes, the votes ain't coming. Lots of mixed-status families have permanent resident who simply WILL NOT file for naturalization until their family members are safe here. Sorry. And doing "something" late might, *might* motivate half to naturalize by the 2016 election, but it is not helping on this one.

Do it because it's the right thing to do; if you talk about it in moral terms, this is it. If you only talk about how much more $$ immigrant labor will bring, well, then...I guess we're screwed. He could remove that age-cap on DACA. Excluding older dreamers has not done anyone any favors.
Considering how he got more than 70% of the Hispanic votes last election, it is safe to say that the vote did came for him. We are talking about politics and politician. You can get all emotional and talk about moral, but sadly, this isn't how politics works in this country. I want Obama to extend DACA as much as you do, but we have to be smart about it. politics isn't about what's the right thing to do, it is about money and getting re-elected. It is not what they should do for the people, it is about what they will get in return. If we don't have anything to offer, they aren't going to do the right thing out of goodness of their heart. Politics is like a game, in my opinion, it is too risky to extend DACA at this point.

dtrt09 08-03-2014 05:27 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 536681)
Considering how he got more than 70% of the Hispanic votes last election, it is safe to say that the vote did came for him. We are talking about politics and politician. You can get all emotional and talk about moral, but sadly, this isn't how politics works in this country. I want Obama to extend DACA as much as you do, but we have to be smart about it. politics isn't about what's the right thing to do, it is about money and getting re-elected. It is not what they should do for the people, it is about what they will get in return. If we don't have anything to offer, they aren't going to do the right thing out of goodness of their heart. Politics is like a game, in my opinion, it is too risky to extend DACA at this point.
Which PAC, "nonprofit" or Democratic campaign(s) do you volunteer or work for?

MIdreamer 08-03-2014 05:31 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 536682)
Which PAC, "nonprofit" or Democratic campaign(s) do you volunteer or work for?
I didn't volunteer, but I donate money to help democrats in my state to win.

dtrt09 08-03-2014 05:37 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 536683)
I didn't volunteer, but I donate money to help democrats in my state to win.
Ask for your money back :)

MIdreamer 08-03-2014 05:38 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 536687)
Ask for your money back :)
Why? I do like having more Democrats in the House and Senate:D They are not the best, but we don't really have a choice.

Severity 08-03-2014 05:41 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
I agree with MIdreamer. Having a republican majority in both chambers is dangerous.
Picture this:

Law passed house to stop DACA
Republicans take the senate
Senate passes same law to make a statement.
Things can change rather quickly.

That's logical thinking. But I rather have Obama go big and whatever happens happens. It'd be nice to see my parents get a work permit, even if it might be taken away.

vivace 08-03-2014 05:48 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Someone confirm this for me:

Would we need an act of congress to extend H1-B eligibility to DREAMers and DACA recipients?

Pianoswithoutfaith 08-03-2014 06:12 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 536688)
Why? I do like having more Democrats in the House and Senate:D They are not the best, but we don't really have a choice.
isnt illegal to donate money to them if you are here illegally

MIdreamer 08-03-2014 07:04 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 536691)
isnt illegal to donate money to them if you are here illegally
I'm fully aware of that, I have been in this forum for 4 years. I made my sister register to vote and had her donate money for me. I also encourage my roommate to vote, every little effort matters.

Malign0n 08-03-2014 07:51 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 536683)
I didn't volunteer, but I donate money to help democrats in my state to win.
That's illegal. We can't donate money to political causes.

bigdreamer2010 08-03-2014 09:50 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Severity (Post 536689)
I agree with MIdreamer. Having a republican majority in both chambers is dangerous.
Picture this:

Law passed house to stop DACA
Republicans take the senate
Senate passes same law to make a statement.
Things can change rather quickly.

That's logical thinking. But I rather have Obama go big and whatever happens happens. It'd be nice to see my parents get a work permit, even if it might be taken away.
That scenario will never happen. The house passed the bill to end DACA in order to pass the border bill. The GOP's leadership team in the house originally had a bill preventing any new applications to DACA as a way to get ahead of Obama's pending executive action. This original bill and the border bill were set to be voted on Thursday. However, because of the power structure in the house, once the far right of the GOP's wing refused to vote for the border bill Bohener pulled the bill. The Tea Party has the upper hand in forcing votes since if just a few of them go against leadership then nothing will pass since the Democrats are sticking together and voting no.

Therefore, in order to save face (remember that the House voted to sue Obama Wednesday for use of executive action, then failed to pass their own bill Thursday and released a statement saying that Obama needs to use executive action) the leadership absolutely needed to pass that border bill unless they would look like asses. The Tea Party knew this and got A LOT of Concessions from Leadership which included ending DACA.

However, this bill is completely symbolic as EVERYONE knows its DOA in the senate. The GOP in the Senate have much more to lose than those house republicans in gerrymandered districts. Statewide and national elections are a lot different.

If you think Senate Republicans (which are much more the Establishment wing of The GOP) are willing to go the route of house republicans, ask yourself why they haven't yet? Of course they have Ted Cruz who's just a tool, but remember that the Senate passed CIR and that ONLY happened because the GOP ALLOWED it to happen.

dtrt09 08-03-2014 10:43 PM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
I don't know; there's something weird in all this back and forth - either there are deportation cases that are going to make this administration look really bad if known (publicly) or they are just testing the political winds and milking the situation for all they can. I agree with the previous poster, the GOP's vote to end DACA was symbolic and done to save face. It's going nowhere near the President.

VeryNicePerson1 08-03-2014 10:56 PM
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lol oh geez, if Obama does nothing, it might be one of the most epic "it was too good to be true" moments in our lifetimes...lol...

drvenom 08-03-2014 10:57 PM
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He'll do something. I doubt he'll risk not having a legacy, which is what will happen if he does nothing. He just might not be as bold with his EO as we would like him to be.

Sorrybrah 08-04-2014 12:05 AM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by drvenom (Post 536723)
He'll do something. I doubt he'll risk not having a legacy, which is what will happen if he does nothing. He just might not be as bold with his EO as we would like him to be.
Damn, my parents are so excited about the idea of having some kind of renewable work permit. I guess I would just let them know that they need to calm down and expect the worst.

IamAman 08-04-2014 12:51 AM
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I just have a bad feeling that i made a mistake using a condoms all these years if it turns out only those with kids get work permits.

eddy 08-04-2014 01:02 AM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 536731)
I just have a bad feeling that i made a mistake using a condoms all these years if it turns out only those with kids get work permits.
Yeah, and finally the term "anchor baby" will be true for once.

Pianoswithoutfaith 08-04-2014 01:06 AM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drvenom (Post 536723)
He'll do something. I doubt he'll risk not having a legacy, which is what will happen if he does nothing. He just might not be as bold with his EO as we would like him to be.
He already has his legacy which was passing a national health care. Not to mention the first black president

Pianoswithoutfaith 08-04-2014 01:06 AM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 536730)
Damn, my parents are so excited about the idea of having some kind of renewable work permit. I guess I would just let them know that they need to calm down and expect the worst.
yeah I saw this shit coming from miles away, I even posted here about it. "Obama could just not do anything" I posted that weeks ago. Its going to be hard what he does but so far he seems to be stalling, now its to by end of summer?

DACAuser 08-04-2014 03:56 AM
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If Obama use executive order to grant green card to illegal, he will get impeachment. Obama is a
smart guy, he will wait until democrat take back house at the end of this year. And pass CIR.

Pianoswithoutfaith 08-04-2014 05:09 AM
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Whatever it takes DACAuser

2Face 08-04-2014 06:54 AM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
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Originally Posted by DACAuser (Post 536745)
If Obama use executive order to grant green card to illegal, he will get impeachment. Obama is a
smart guy, he will wait until democrat take back house at the end of this year. And pass CIR.
You got a point here. Obama is a genius. Definitely expecting him to sign another DHS memo, allowing work permits only but not really an "executive order". The timing is just perfectly similar to 2012 when DACA was announced.

Manimhappy 08-04-2014 07:35 AM
Re: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DACAuser (Post 536745)
If Obama use executive order to grant green card to illegal, he will get impeachment. Obama is a
smart guy, he will wait until democrat take back house at the end of this year. And pass CIR.
They're not going to take the house... The senate will lose democrats majority.

2Face 08-04-2014 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Manimhappy (Post 536751)
They're not going to take the house... The senate will lose democrats majority.
That's not going to happen. Democrats are going to gain a supermajority very soon. Maybe not this election cycle but eventually.

swordfish 08-04-2014 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DACAuser (Post 536745)
If Obama use executive order to grant green card to illegal, he will get impeachment. Obama is a smart guy, he will wait until democrat take back house at the end of this year. And pass CIR.
Obama can't grant green cards (Permanent residence) only congress can do that, all he can do is provide temporarly relief to the undocumented population. He will not take back the house traditionally the presidents party lose legislative votes in midterm elections.

drvenom 08-04-2014 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 536730)
Damn, my parents are so excited about the idea of having some kind of renewable work permit. I guess I would just let them know that they need to calm down and expect the worst.
Yea, my parents are a bit excited too. Pft, I'm excited, but I don't want to be. I'm preparing for the worst haha. It is just my parents and I that are undocumented. My sibling are USC. I'm just tired of being undocumented man.


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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 536731)
I just have a bad feeling that i made a mistake using a condoms all these years if it turns out only those with kids get work permits.
I know man, all this time I was being responsible. I should have listen to my parents when they were like, "just have a baby, we won't be around forever and we want to see our grand kids grow up."

Sorrybrah 08-04-2014 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drvenom (Post 536756)
Yea, my parents are a bit excited too. Pft, I'm excited, but I don't want to be. I'm preparing for the worst haha. It is just my parents and I that are undocumented. My sibling are USC. I'm just tired of being undocumented man.




I know man, all this time I was being responsible. I should have listen to my parents when they were like, "just have a baby, we won't be around forever and we want to see our grand kids grow up."
You mentioned your siblings are USC?

You might be one of the lucky ones to benefit for the future "EO" if there is one. However let's not forget that this is the same president who didn't do anything when the Syrian "redline" was breached.

He's the lesser of the two evils though.

Severity 08-04-2014 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 (Post 536706)
That scenario will never happen. The house passed the bill to end DACA in order to pass the border bill. The GOP's leadership team in the house originally had a bill preventing any new applications to DACA as a way to get ahead of Obama's pending executive action. This original bill and the border bill were set to be voted on Thursday. However, because of the power structure in the house, once the far right of the GOP's wing refused to vote for the border bill Bohener pulled the bill. The Tea Party has the upper hand in forcing votes since if just a few of them go against leadership then nothing will pass since the Democrats are sticking together and voting no.

Therefore, in order to save face (remember that the House voted to sue Obama Wednesday for use of executive action, then failed to pass their own bill Thursday and released a statement saying that Obama needs to use executive action) the leadership absolutely needed to pass that border bill unless they would look like asses. The Tea Party knew this and got A LOT of Concessions from Leadership which included ending DACA.

However, this bill is completely symbolic as EVERYONE knows its DOA in the senate. The GOP in the Senate have much more to lose than those house republicans in gerrymandered districts. Statewide and national elections are a lot different.

If you think Senate Republicans (which are much more the Establishment wing of The GOP) are willing to go the route of house republicans, ask yourself why they haven't yet? Of course they have Ted Cruz who's just a tool, but remember that the Senate passed CIR and that ONLY happened because the GOP ALLOWED it to happen.
Maybe because they knew it wouldn't get through the house and they wanted to position themselves politically ?
You can't say that will never happen, because you just don't know.

bigdreamer2010 08-04-2014 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Severity (Post 536817)
Maybe because they knew it wouldn't get through the house and they wanted to position themselves politically ?
You can't say that will never happen, because you just don't know.
I use facts to form my opinion and you've proven my point. The immigration debate at this point has little to do with what's wrong or what's right but what's good politics. Whether or not the bill passes the house doesn't matter. What does matter is that National Republican party understands the politics of blocking the bill in the senate.

The dynamics of the house of representatives are titled towards the tea party. Its not because they represent the views of a majority of Americans of even a majority of House Republicans but because of math.

Even house leadership understands the politics of immigration. In the lawsuit against Obama abusing executive action there is no mention of DACA. The reason why Bohener was forced to include the DACA bill on Thursday and Friday were for the reasons I described in my previous post. He had to.

I'll explain since I'm sure that "you just don't know"

House republicans are safe in their districts therefore votes on the far right doesn't really effect them.
There are 435 members in the house of representatives.
There are 234 republicans.
You need 218 votes to pass a bill.
Democrats have been playing great politics by mostly voting along party lines.
Therefore out of the 234 republicans only 17 have to vote NO and nothing passes the house.
This gives the Tea Party the advantage since there about 30-50 Tea party aligned House Republicans
Wednesday: House leadership allows vote on lawsuit to sue Obama for abuse of executive action(note in the bill there is no mention of anything immigration related)
Thursday: House to vote on Border bill and another immigration related bill the prevents expansion of DACA(preemptive and symbolic strike against Obama's EO)
The infamous Ted Cruz meets with Steve King and Michelle Bachman (who knows what happens in that meeting but one can guess)
Thursday night: The border bill is scheduled for a vote. Boeher all of the sudden realizes that the bill has detractors and he won't get the 218 needed since Democrats were whipped to vote no as usual
Boehner pulls said bill and also cancels the DACA Expansion bill
Boehner's office releases statement saying President Obama needs to use executive action to solve border issue
Hilarity ensues
Congressmen are called back to Capital Friday. Boehner absolutely needs this border bill to pass otherwise his bill to sue Obama on Wednesday gets completely exposed for what it is and House Republicans again show that they fail to lead
Boehner makes concessions to the detractors of the original bill (I assure you Steve King and Bachman had a lot of say in the ending of DACA)
Both bills pass


So basically Boehner lost a battle in order to win the war. He made a lot of concessions to the far right on immigration in order to save face on the overall party's position on Obamacare's unpopularity and painting Obama as a king. I'm sure Ted Cruz, Michelle Bachman, and Steve King all knew this as well.

Manimhappy 08-04-2014 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 536752)
That's not going to happen. Democrats are going to gain a supermajority very soon. Maybe not this election cycle but eventually.
You just contradicted yourself.... According to you, if they're not going to this upcoming election then my statement is correct.... Yes eventually they will and so will republicans.. Eventually there will be a women, Asian, Midget president etc... Yes eventually always happens it's all probability... Given enough time, it will come out. Just like the outcome of winning the lottery... You're not gonna win tomorrow.. But if you play for a million years straight you will probably win... Democrats will lose the senate unfortunately and I will come back and remind you of it come this election..

drvenom 08-04-2014 09:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 536771)
You mentioned your siblings are USC?

You might be one of the lucky ones to benefit for the future "EO" if there is one. However let's not forget that this is the same president who didn't do anything when the Syrian "redline" was breached.

He's the lesser of the two evils though.
Yes my siblings and wife are USC.

moby 08-05-2014 12:16 AM
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Hello
My name is Moby

the reason I write this is to express my deeper frustration on Obama's

undocumented alien treatment since 2012.

I came here in U.S. as H4 when I was 18. I've disqualified DACA despite the

age couldn't even helped to determines a path to my independence - I

couldn't get work permit, buy liquors & tobacco, and drivers license, so on

so. as soon as my age turned to 19, my visa got expired. unlike my sister

who came in with her age 9 so she could have DACA in 2012.

now, my age is 31 and literally I can't do anything but stuck in home whole

day. imagine. every single day is doomsday, and i can't find any proper

reason to live as a human being. I wasted my 20 ages with earned nothing,

and no romance neither. nobody even wants to marry me. but I was just stick

with it because of Obama's initial promise - comprehensive immigration

reform.

But now, forget it. Obama throw my last only hope for saving dear selected

group of peoples - Dreamers and their parents only.

I've never been missed paying taxes every month and year, but Obama didn't

even considered about such case.

well..I'm in complication or AKA. "so fucked."


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