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Ianus

11-04-2014 04:57 PM

Gutierrez wasting no time in push for WH action on immigration

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/22...on-immigration

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President Obama has vowed to act swiftly to adopt new immigration measures after Tuesday's elections; Rep. Luis Gutiérrez is waiting exactly one day before holding his feet to the fire.

Gutiérrez, a fellow Illinois Democrat who has long criticized Obama's immigration policies, will host a press conference Wednesday in Chicago to push the president to take quick executive action to rein in deportations.

Gutierrez, along with numerous liberal Democrats and immigration reform advocates, says Obama's enforcement measures are too hard on immigrant families split by deportations.

Under fire from the advocates, Obama in March asked the Department of Homeland Security to review its approach to deportations in search of ways to conduct them "more humanely." But the president has twice delayed the release of that review, largely due to pressure from centrist Senate Democrats who feared a backlash at the polls this month.

The delays infuriated Gutierrez and other advocates, who've warned the White House that each day of inaction would only further alienate Hispanics, who have come out in overwhelming numbers for Obama and the Democrats over the last several election cycles.

The shift toward executive action came after immigration reform legislation stalled on Capitol Hill this Congress.

Although the Senate passed a comprehensive reform bill last year with broad bipartisan support, the issue has taken on a more partisan face in the House, where Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has refused to bring related legislation to the floor.

In January, Boehner and other Republican leaders had floated an outline for reform legislation, but an immediate backlash from conservatives in their conference killed the issue for the rest of the year. The conservatives were especially critical of a provision allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the country and work without fear of deportation — something they reject as "amnesty."

Last week, Gutiérrez joined House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) in outlining what they consider to be Obama's legal authority to act unilaterally in the face of congressional inaction.

"We do not know exactly what the President will do or when he will announce it," they wrote in a Univision op-ed, "but we are confident he will act."

Wednesday's press conference is being hosted by the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, an advocacy group.

IamAman

11-05-2014 12:54 AM

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I'm so glad the Prez waited until after the election to take any action. Plan worked like a charm...Oh wait, Democrats got their asses handed to them in the House, Senate, and most state races.

Smooth

11-05-2014 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 545031)

I'm so glad the Prez waited until after the election to take any action. Plan worked like a charm...Oh wait, Democrats got their asses handed to them in the House, Senate, and most state races.

ohhhhh holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuddddddddddddgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. No!! F**king no!!!

conscientiatesla87

11-05-2014 12:58 AM

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Dam we are screwed...

Smooth

11-05-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by conscientiatesla87 (Post 545033)

Dam we are screwed...

I completely agree. Fuck.

conscientiatesla87

11-05-2014 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 545034)

I completely agree. Fuck.

I guess enjoy the two years of renewal, because 2016 we might be going back. No chance of immigrantion reform passing now.

Smooth

11-05-2014 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by conscientiatesla87 (Post 545035)

I guess enjoy the two years of renewal, because 2016 we might be going back. No chance of immigrantion reform passing now.

Yeah...that's the feeling I am getting right now. And, it does not feel good at all. Back to the dark era. Holy fuck.

Severity

11-05-2014 01:09 AM

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I don't really see anyone taking the presidency away from a democrat. So we should be fine.

Smooth

11-05-2014 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Severity (Post 545037)

I don't really see anyone taking the presidency away from a democrat. So we should be fine.

I hope not. Hard to fucking believe someone would end DACA for us. It's just fucking insane. Fucking shit!

conscientiatesla87

11-05-2014 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 545036)

Yeah...that's the feeling I am getting right now. And, it does not feel good at all. Back to the dark era. Holy fuck.

Yep sad day. If without the Republican majority, they were trying to take away DACA , now they will have bigger balls to do it .

Smooth

11-05-2014 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by conscientiatesla87 (Post 545039)

Yep sad day. If without the Republican majority, they were trying to take away DACA , now they will have bigger balls to do it .

Hate to bring this up now, but thank you Mr. President for your 2008 CIR promise. His fucking legacy.

Smooth

11-05-2014 01:21 AM

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It would be nice if the damn Pentagon extended that damn military option right now. Now, I wonder what kind of impact these results will have on the impending EO. It almost becomes pointless now.

Pianoswithoutfaith

11-05-2014 01:25 AM

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getting kinda worry now...

swordfish

11-05-2014 01:27 AM

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I'm not surprised this happened, I see it coming long time ago. I wonder now if Obama will have the guts to sign executive action since GOP will considere it an act of war.

Severity

11-05-2014 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by swordfish (Post 545047)

I'm not surprised this happened, I see it coming long time ago. I wonder now if Obama will have the guts to sign executive action since GOP will considere it an act of war.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."

DACAuser

11-05-2014 01:31 AM

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I hope Obama don;t sign executive action because it could spell doom to CIR

pavpatel

11-05-2014 01:39 AM

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Why are you guys so worried? I think either outcome would've been fine. The GOP controlling the senate is a good thing in my eyes. The GOP NEEDS to pass SOMETHING if they want any chance of having the 2016 presidency. There's just no way. There's such insane pressure from all angles. Something has to be done and they recognize this. I think they will come up with a shitty bill, yes, but at least SOMETHING will be getting done. We will be working towards something. They will debate it and hopefully work out a compromise. It's not all doomed. Don't worry. The way I see it is that either they pass something or they lose the presidency and we get another four years of a DEM President.

Pianoswithoutfaith

11-05-2014 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pavpatel (Post 545058)

See, the democrats didnt do much but the also didnt much that affected us. Republicans on the other hand have done just about anything to get rid of DACA and dont forget they did not even want to take the Senate Immigration Reform bill into a hearing. You HONESTLY think republicans winning is good for us?

Obama took a risk not doing an EO, he thought congress would be control by democrats so his EO was more acceptable, now with Republicans in the house , literally, hes going to be under a lot of pressure to not do anything

swordfish

11-05-2014 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pavpatel (Post 545058)

I'm pretty sure GOP will pass their own version of CIR which will be a piece meal legislation with border security first and a very limited if any legalization provision hoping that immigrants will be stupid enough to believe that they actually accomplished something. If that happen will be in 2015 before the next election year.

Pianoswithoutfaith

11-05-2014 02:07 AM

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You better believe any minimal legalization will take effect once every inch of the borders have a moat 200 meter moat with sharks and alligators, and a 30 mile tall wall .

drvenom

11-05-2014 04:54 AM

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Well, if I get deported maybe they can ship me to Cancun. I've been dying to go there all my life. It will be a good vacation before reality sets in.

NK74	11-05-2014 06:08 AM

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The problem was is and will be the House. The Senate did pass a CIR bill in 2013, a CIR bill mind you that was a further compromise than everything discussed before in order to assuage Republican concerns.

In theory, Republicans have to pass something to improve their chances for 2016, but it won't work this way, because a sizeable part of their House caucus has a different set of incentives. For those people what matter is their reelection and that reelection goes through the hard line restrictionists which comprise a descent chunk of their primary electorate. These people look at Cantor's defeat as a warning for not to do and one of the things not to do is pass any serious CIR.

Moreover, before the actual 2016 general election, there's going to be a hotly contested presidential primary in which people like Ted Cruz will demagogue the issue; the effect will be that even moderate Republicans open to CIR will backtrack and toughen their position.

So, good luck trying to see CIR in the next couple of years. At best, they might pass some bills in order to try save face that aren't going to be signed by Obama for good reason. For example, they might sign a bill with strong security measures and send it to Obama. Obama won't sign that without reassurance that some form of legalization will pass and Republicans are simply going to use that as an excuse in order to pretend they tried to do something but the President stopped it.

The worst part is that thanks to natural gerrymandering, House Republicans seem to have a stranglehold on the House for the foreseeable future with some people believing that Democrats won't get a serious chance until 2020 or 2022.

So yeah, at the moment Executive Action is the best hope, but the midterms didn't help.

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