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Hello friends! On the eve of this crucial day, I'd like to share this with you.

WASHINGTON — Up to four million undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years can apply for a program that protects them from deportation and allows those with no criminal record to work legally in the country, President Obama is to announce on Thursday, according to people briefed on his plans.

An additional one million people will get protection from deportation through other parts of the president’s plan to overhaul the nation’s immigration enforcement system, including the expansion of an existing program for “Dreamers,” young immigrants who came to the United States as children. There will no longer be a limit on the age of the people who qualify.

But farm workers will not receive specific protection from deportation, nor will the Dreamers’ parents. And none of the five million immigrants over all who will be given new legal protections will get government subsidies for health care under the Affordable Care Act.

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source ?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/20/us...=fb-share&_r=0

Just posted online by Gaby Pacheco, Dream leader on her fb account. God bless her and nice to see ya ERIK! The first person to break DACA news on DAP on that beautiful day! :mrgreen:

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I can't believe he will leave my parents out. You help us, but you don't help my parents. I'm no one to call him a coward but he changed my life in so many ways when I got approved for DACA. My parents are really sad they wont qualify.

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I think everyone should just relax and wait until tomorrow, who knows what is going to be announced speculating isnt helping any .

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I wonder if they'll have to be parents of USC too.

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I'm still hoping for military service lol

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so nothing is confirmed for now?

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i dont think you are fully appreciating what is going on here. this uncharted legal and political territory. be grateful anything is being done.

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yeah.. a lot of people here are forgetting what he did for you, I know helping our parents is what everyone hopes, I know I do and I would be sad and upset if they are excluded but if its going to help other people and change their lives the way it change ours, then we should we happy for them.

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Read my comment, he changed my life for the better. I don't know if you have parents or not, but I do and I care about them. I'm grateful he changed my life and now I work in a job making more than 70k. Yes my friend, I'm appreciative and I still can't say thank you enough. I went from factory work, to tech work thanks to Obama. What concerns me the most is the parents of DACA dreamers like us. But if Obama is not including them, I'm still happy he's going to push another Date. Although I firmly believe this should also include our parents. It's called DACA..... it would make sense to include our parents as well. But only the president has his reasons. I'm just really hurt parents of DACA dreamers will not be included. It broke my heart to see my parents go from happy, to sad when they heard that on the Spanish news. They were so excited that they were already getting stuff ready. Oh man.

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I know that feeling dude. Bring a nice meal home or take them out for dinner; cheer them up and be there for the.

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Yeah, I pay for all the bills now and they are really proud of me. I think seeing my parents making plans already to go on road trips and visit family in California and Florida is what hurt me the most. And of course, our parents can find better jobs. I'm still praying with all my heart Obama can include them tomorrow. Some say yes, some say no. Either way, I will still be happy about Obama approving another daca, that's another big step to finally get the immigration reform.

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Very weak action. Only thing it did was take off the age cap from DACA, which in all reality shouldn't be there in the first place.

Whereas I perfectly understand that parents don't get coverage (since the argument for Dreamers have always been "we were brought here" ie. "its our parents' fault, not ours"). They could really do something for spouses and children of US citizens.


We need a better president, someone like Durbin (or even Pelosi), not a quack like Obama or Reid who pay us lip service and do a trillion other things and then remember "oh fuck... the hispanics/immigrants...". (Fun fact, in 2005 Reid sponsored an act ending birthright citizenship, considering that people rarely honestly and severely change their stances - you now know why there hasn't been any kind of a serious push).

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Whatever happens tomorrow, the thing is that we have to all not stop pushing for all of our families to get some sort of relief in the future. This is key.

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I think you'd need a mother of all protests for that. You'd need a crowd of 11 million in DC from Capitol Hill all the way to the Maryland border in order to pressure those fucks into passing anything.

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Because they're kids or ignorant.

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Military Enlistment please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You need a better incentive than that, like threatening someone's legacy, power, or money. But it can be done.

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If they have been here for more than 5 years they should still qualify, huh?

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It looks like it will be a specific only bill meant to protect only a certain group of people much like what DACA is. And it looks like Obama might just be expanding DACA to people who didnt qualify the first round.

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Obama is a royal failure with immigration, one who has shown no guts at all. He's leaving all of us in limbo by not getting a BILL passed. WTF are we going to do when a Republican President or blue dog Dem takes office?

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This is what I'm trying to say. It's not even a bill. Its just prosecutorial discretion which is TEMPORARY. Once a Republican comes to office, it's tossed out of the window. It's been years in his Presidency, and this guy has not managed to get a bill passed through Congress. Dangerous times ahead.

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Yeah, they have been here for 24 years now. Hope we hear positive things today.

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Dissapointing.

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Be grateful he is even doing anything, by all accounts this government doesn't have to do jack shit for us, even less for our parents. My parents knew they broke the law when they stayed here, as good a reason as it was, and knew the consequences. Dreamers had no say in it for the most part, but we had the choice to go back to our countries.

People complaining all the time makes me sick.

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I agree. But, this has been done before by previous presidents (1.5 million under GHWB EO that helped family members of those who adjusted under the Reagan Amnesty, but did not qualify themselves), but not on such a large scale. But, the undocumented population is much larger now than it was then.

I realize feelings are running high and will continue to run high because of the announcement. But, I think people need to remember that this policy will impact real people including fellow DREAMers, even if it will not benefit their own families. I'm not saying people don't have a right to be angry, but keep in mind not everyone was included in DACA. DREAMers older than ourselves and fighting longer than we were, ended up excluded from 2012 DACA.

I am of the mind that the fight is not over. This is a temporary solution to a life long problem. But it does help, in the short term.

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Amen to that... Last time around (DACA) I cried myself to sleep. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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I sincerely hope the reports about the age cap for DREAMers are true and you are able to benefit. Best wishes to you, your wife and new addition! :D

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Says the person whose clan is included. I hope this gets blocked.

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FYI posts like this violate forum rules. Infractions and/or bans will be handed out accordingly.

You can be upset. You can be angry, but disrespect of fellow board members will not be tolerated.

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That's an insult? lol you have to be kidding me. This is what happens when they put a little jamaican girl as a mod.

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Wow man I know tempers are running high but don't stoop so low. We need to stick together in these times even if we are not the beneficiaries. I will continue to fight and pray as always dude.

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2 out of 3.

Not sure why my nationality and gender are an issue for you. But, yes, it is insulting for you to tell another member you hope the EO is blocked because his/her family benefits and yours does not.

We can call it trolling if it suits you. Either way, the penalty is an infraction. :D

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Apologies. I just thought it was a little unfair how illegals have priority over those who have filed i485s and have to go through a lenghty processing. Good luck either way.

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I understand the frustration. Believe me I do. My family filed a petition 10 years ago and my grandfather passed away two weeks after we received the approval from the NVC to proceed.

But, we don't need an us vs them mentality. We get enough of that from the outside world. This is supposed to be a place of support for all DREAMers.

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I understand that people are pissed off at the President for not saving Dreamers Parents, but I think we should take it step by step. We should also focus on our fellow Dreamers more than our parents. What I am trying to say is, rather than focusing on what should be done or what should not be done, we should simply celebrate for our older Dreamers who will be able to benefit from the EO.

I am ecstatic for DAuser, IamMan and other Dreamers who were left out 2 years ago. They were the ones that fought the most, they were the ones that made this world to realize that there are people like us. I wish our older Dreamers will be able to pursue their dream to the fullest with this chance that Obama gave us. Let's fight until the end and change this world that we live in. I cannot wait until the news is announced.

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I just like to point out the irony in the people who are calling the president names when their signature says they have an EAD because of DACA. One thing I've learned in my life is to be loyal and never forget a good deed, but a lot of people on here don't seem to live by that rule.

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Reading some of these comments , just shows how this EO is going to divide the immigrant community. Like I said before no one will be completly satisfied until CIR is passed. This is a bold move by OBAMA, those that qualify should be grateful because ,this is it for a very long time unless those republicans get off there ass and do there damn JOBS!!!!!! I bet less than half will meet the qualifications to even apply and not many want out of the shadows except for fear of deportation in those border states. But I will say Obama gave those republicans something to think about over Thanksgiving break and will give them time to try and fight this. It's not going to take effect for at least 90 days, USCIS will be overwhelmed with apps and I betcha aged out dreamers will get approved 1st and then whomever USCIS deems necesasry to be next in line. They will have a method to the madness in place before this takes effect. IMO

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Hey!

Forget them. Are you excited or what?
I don't know why but I am more excited than back in 6/15/2012! LOL.
I want to see some happy posts in this forum. I am sure there are so many older Dreamers scoping this forum out here and there but I don't see any of them talking about the exciting news!