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IamAman 02-04-2015 12:55 PM

GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/23...e-is-no-plan-b

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By Mike Lillis - 02/03/15 04:34 PM EST
House conservatives are doubling down in their efforts to undo President Obama's lenient new deportation policies as part of a bill funding the Homeland Security Department.

The Republicans, including Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.), are vowing to hold the line on tying funding for the Homeland Security Department to language reversing Obama’s executive actions on immigration — even after Senate Democrats blocked their bill from being considered in the upper chamber.

“There’s not a Plan B, because this is the plan," Scalise said minutes after the Senate vote, according to Fox News's Chad Pergram.
Rep. John Fleming (R-La.) echoed that message, saying “many of us agree that we should stand behind the one bill that we sent over there.”

“Most of us feel that way,” he said just before the Senate vote. “Anything less than that, we're not going to get any better result anyway. So why not just go for what's really right?”

Tuesday's Senate vote was 51-48 to end debate on the House-passed Homeland Security bill — far shy of the 60 supporters GOP leaders needed to move to a vote on final passage.

Every Senate Democrat voted against proceeding to the package, as did Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.).

It’s unclear how GOP leaders intend to proceed. Republican leaders in both chambers are under pressure to stand firm in opposition to Obama’s actions.

DHS funding is set to expire on Feb. 28, and Republicans are also wary of the political blowback if they're seen as threatening a shutdown of the agency, particularly in the immediate wake of the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris last month.

Democrats, who are calling for a clean bill to fund the Homeland Security Department, have used every opportunity to hammer the Republicans for risking the nation's security to score political points with their conservative base.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Tuesday accused GOP leaders of “baying at the moon instead of honoring their responsibilities to protect [Americans].” And Rep. Steny Hoyer (Md.), the Democratic whip, said there's zero chance the Republicans succeed in rolling back executive orders that Obama has vowed to defend with a veto.

“They knew that in December,” Hoyer said of GOP leaders. “Nobody doubts ... that this is all about the politics of dealing with their right wing. Period. Nothing else.”

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) last month forecast that Senate GOP leaders would come up with their own provisions to push back against Obama's executive actions, setting the stage for a conference with the House bill.

“We have our body, we do our work. The Senate can do their work, and we can go to conference,” McCarthy said.

But Scalise's comment Tuesday indicates that at least some GOP leaders are ready to adopt a harder line. And they'll have support from a number of rank-and-file conservatives if they do.

“Most of us are saying, 'We're going to hold out for everything,'” Fleming said.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-05-2015 12:48 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
Nothing is bold. Not reading

IamAman 02-05-2015 12:55 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 552113)
Nothing is bold. Not reading

Is reading a page that big of a chore?

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-05-2015 02:58 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
are you kidding!? I had to use windows voice reader to read your post man

IamAman 02-05-2015 08:54 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 552116)
are you kidding!? I had to use windows voice reader to read your post man

Well save your reading...looks like the GOP's plan B is to allow the 2012 DACA to stand but get rid of the 2014 executive order. I'm on my phone now so I can't link.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-06-2015 01:16 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
wow thats low of them

2Face 02-06-2015 08:13 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
This beyond depressing. Looks like CIR legislation is a far fetched dream now.

Träumer 02-06-2015 03:01 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
http://i.imgur.com/wCidUae.jpg

Träumer 02-06-2015 09:34 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 552212)
This beyond depressing. Looks like CIR legislation is a far fetched dream now.

Oh a CIR is still alive in the new congress. But doesn't look much like we wish it did.

Malign0n 02-06-2015 09:39 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Träumer (Post 552236)

That's just not right. That went too far

Träumer 02-07-2015 02:45 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Malign0n (Post 552266)
That's just not right. That went too far

Dacamented republican brown noser?

I see is some kind of fashion here. Are you expecting a cookie and a tap on the back of your head? Or....

Träumer 02-07-2015 02:46 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Malign0n (Post 552266)
That's just not right. That went too far

It is for back stabbing republican wannabes like you that repubs. Won both houses of congress.

IamAman 02-07-2015 11:45 AM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Träumer (Post 552283)
It is for back stabbing republican wannabes like you that repubs. Won both houses of congress.

Sorry too far. Nobody will take us seriously if we are that much over the top. Now if this was a pizza oven where they expected us to just work in the kitchen and shut up, you would be correct, but no. If you want to win back congress, encourage your lazy American friends and relatives to register and vote Democrat. It's that simple. Apathy among the immigrant communities is what's killing us. There are so many kids born in this country into undocumented families who never register or vote even though their parents, brothers, and sisters are suffering.

Malign0n 02-07-2015 12:39 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Träumer (Post 552282)
Dacamented republican brown noser?

I see is some kind of fashion here. Are you expecting a cookie and a tap on the back of your head? Or....

My post wasn't about politics. It was not funny at all that you posted a picture of the oven a heinous symbol of the holocaust. It's offensive and our movement can't be taken seriously if outside people see this

Träumer 02-07-2015 12:57 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 552297)
Sorry too far. Nobody will take us seriously if we are that much over the top. Now if this was a pizza oven where they expected us to just work in the kitchen and shut up, you would be correct, but no. If you want to win back congress, encourage your lazy American friends and relatives to register and vote Democrat. It's that simple. Apathy among the immigrant communities is what's killing us. There are so many kids born in this country into undocumented families who never register or vote even though their parents, brothers, and sisters are suffering.

You can keep your so called "efforts". I'll go back to my group and explain we are fighting two fronts.

The sad thing about it is that one of those fronts may as well be getting help directly from us, and then shoots us in the back.

IamAman 02-07-2015 06:48 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by Träumer (Post 552299)
You can keep your so called "efforts". I'll go back to my group and explain we are fighting two fronts.

The sad thing about it is that one of those fronts may as well be getting help directly from us, and then shoots us in the back.

What group? I can't tell if you're being serious or just trolling.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-07-2015 06:58 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
I am genuinely confuse as whats going on here

Träumer 02-08-2015 01:48 PM

Re: GOP on immigration: 'There is no plan B'
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 552306)
What group? I can't tell if you're being serious or just trolling.

No, there is people who does need and appreciate whatever we can help with. And I just wrote the code for what's going to be the DAPA guide.

Not going to share it here so we start getting bombarded by steve king's dacamented capos.


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