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kidcomesback 03-22-2016 02:09 PM

Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Hello all,

I filed for my DACA renewal a week earlier, and I got a notice this morning saying that my case has been terminated. I haven't gotten the letter explaining why yet, but can anyone shed some light on this?

Malign0n 03-22-2016 04:56 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Do you have a criminal record?

ggalicia 03-22-2016 06:59 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Did they cash your check?

xAmbition 03-22-2016 08:51 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Did you have enough proof or has your criminal record changed since your initial one

kidcomesback 03-22-2016 09:24 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
No criminal record. Not a single thing has changed since my last DACA. this would be my second time renewing.

Plus, I haven't even done my bio yet, so I don't think it's background check either.


Quote:

Originally Posted by xAmbition (Post 565922)
Did you have enough proof or has your criminal record changed since your initial one


xAmbition 03-22-2016 09:42 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidcomesback (Post 565925)
No criminal record. Not a single thing has changed since my last DACA. this would be my second time renewing.

Plus, I haven't even done my bio yet, so I don't think it's background check either.

Well there doesn't seem to be anyone else with a 2nd renewal. other posts say renewal is unlimited as long as the program stands, however I remember reading something like you can only renew once when daca first was announced but I could have misread or forgot etc. I always thought we could only renew once but everyone else says otherwise. I could be wrong we'll have to see for other 2nd renewals

kidcomesback 03-22-2016 09:44 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
I went through a program where a pro bono lawyer filed it for free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggalicia (Post 565915)
Did they cash your check?


Pianoswithoutfaith 03-22-2016 09:50 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
This isn't like a subscription something. You can renew and rendew forever. We are not renewing because renewing means you are already in. Once our DACA expires it expires and we then have the option to ask uscis to again reconsider our case. That is it we are not renewing we are applying as if it was our first time again. They don't need additional info like the initial application because you can only prove you were on those dates for so many times. USCiS isn't calling us and telling us "hey would you like to renew your DACA? Press 1 for yes and 2 for now. 1 thank you for renewing your DACA we hope you enjoy 2 years of your EAD subscription!!" No when our EAD expires we are notified when it will and that's it. I think we are told if we would like them to reconsider us we can then apply again.



However as far I know we can ask uscis to reconsider our case as many times as DACA is open.



As for TC

If you are 100% positive you are clean then it could be a mistake. Try calling them. The only other case which was terminated as this guy who applied for MAVNI and then uscis noticed and found some stuff.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-22-2016 09:51 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidcomesback (Post 565930)
I went through a program where a pro bono lawyer filed it for free.


Could be they messed up ask them to give you a copy of what they sent

kidcomesback 03-22-2016 09:59 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Oh yeah, I'll be calling as soon as I get that damn letter specifying what the reason is.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 565931)
This isn't like a subscription something. You can renew and rendew forever. We are not renewing because renewing means you are already in. Once our DACA expires it expires and we then have the option to ask uscis to again reconsider our case. That is it we are not renewing we are applying as if it was our first time again. They don't need additional info like the initial application because you can only prove you were on those dates for so many times. USCiS isn't calling us and telling us "hey would you like to renew your DACA? Press 1 for yes and 2 for now. 1 thank you for renewing your DACA we hope you enjoy 2 years of your EAD subscription!!" No when our EAD expires we are notified when it will and that's it. I think we are told if we would like them to reconsider us we can then apply again.



However as far I know we can ask uscis to reconsider our case as many times as DACA is open.



As for TC

If you are 100% positive you are clean then it could be a mistake. Try calling them. The only other case which was terminated as this guy who applied for MAVNI and then uscis noticed and found some stuff.


Pianoswithoutfaith 03-22-2016 10:02 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
You don't need anything letter. You just have to call them tell them your number case and see what is going on. When I checked my number one minute it would be blank your case has not been found please check again later it was like for weeks. Then suddenly it went back to normal. Not saying it's the same thing but it could be an error.


Now unless we can only "renew" twice then welp

kidcomesback 03-22-2016 10:04 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Ooh, do you happen to have the number? I could call right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 565936)
You don't need anything letter. You just have to call them tell them your number case and see what is going on. When I checked my number one minute it would be blank your case has not been found please check again later it was like for weeks. Then suddenly it went back to normal. Not saying it's the same thing but it could be an error.


Now unless we can only "renew" twice then welp


year2010 03-22-2016 10:06 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidcomesback (Post 565938)
Ooh, do you happen to have the number? I could call right now.

it's 1-800-375-5283, they are closed now, call tomorrow first thing in the morning. If you ask for 2nd level representative, they tell you a lot more.

kidcomesback 03-22-2016 10:09 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Thanks a bunch! Will do. I'll update this post once I gather more information.

Quote:

Originally Posted by year2010 (Post 565939)
it's 1-800-375-5283, they are closed now, call tomorrow first thing in the morning. If you ask for 2nd level representative, they tell you a lot more.


Ianus 03-23-2016 06:39 AM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Hmmm....check a few numbers above and below using your case number. I am assuming the result is terminations only with IOE..............

The good news is that they are still handing out Biometrics...if there were terminations alone THAT would be a cause for concern. There is either a mistake with the process dealing with "IOE" case numbers, or worse, there has been a fundamental change where there are terminations first followed by a re-processing of applications for reconsideration.

The latter technically means your EAD might no longer be valid which is a concern.

kidcomesback 03-23-2016 11:51 AM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
I just called USCIS and spoke to a 2nd level rep. She couldn't tell me anything besides the termination. She asked me to wait until I receive my letter before requesting anything.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 565954)
Hmmm....check a few numbers above and below using your case number. I am assuming the result is terminations only with IOE..............

The good news is that they are still handing out Biometrics...if there were terminations alone THAT would be a cause for concern. There is either a mistake with the process dealing with "IOE" case numbers, or worse, there has been a fundamental change where there are terminations first followed by a re-processing of applications for reconsideration.

The latter technically means your EAD might no longer be valid which is a concern.


2MoreYears 03-23-2016 07:51 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
What's the exact verbiage of the termination letter ? Can you take a photo of the letter and post it? hide any personal info tho.

This is most likely a mistake in their end.

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-23-2016 08:00 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Better yet check your case number online and see what that says. I strongly think it's a mistake but who really knows. If you haven't gotten in trouble with the law that would raise a flag then it could have been someone used your name. Go get a background check done on yourself

2MoreYears 03-23-2016 08:03 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 565966)
Better yet check your case number online and see what that says. I strongly think it's a mistake but who really knows. If you haven't gotten in trouble with the law that would raise a flag then it could have been someone used your name. Go get a background check done on yourself

Pulling a credit report wouldn't hurt either.

Also, having second thoughts of this and a hunch of what's really going on here. Pretty easy, your case was terminated because it was filed early, that does not mean your current DACA nor your eligibility for DACA was terminated. Only your application was terminated because it was filed before the 180 days grace period (plz someone correct me if I got the num of days wrong), so I'm thinking the following consequences will happen:

- they will not cash your checks
- you will have to re-apply within the grace period
- you will get your DACA renewed and live happily ever after

It is kinda like when your application is rejected(maybe because you did not sign it or missing info). Just my thoughts.

kidcomesback 03-23-2016 08:22 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
I haven't received any letters yet. It was mailed out to me on Monday, so I should receive it next week probably.

In the online case status, there is nothing. And the 2nd level rep didn't have any knowledge either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 565964)
What's the exact verbiage of the termination letter ? Can you take a photo of the letter and post it? hide any personal info tho.

This is most likely a mistake in their end.


kidcomesback 03-23-2016 08:24 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Yes, hopefully. Just waiting until I get my letter to see what the next steps should be. There's nothing bad on my Credit Report.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 565967)
Pulling a credit report wouldn't hurt either.

Also, having second thoughts of this and a hunch of what's really going on here. Pretty easy, your case was terminated because it was filed early, that does not mean your current DACA nor your eligibility for DACA was terminated. Only your application was terminated because it was filed before the 180 days grace period (plz someone correct me if I got the num of days wrong), so I'm thinking the following consequences will happen:

- they will not cash your checks
- you will have to re-apply within the grace period
- you will get your DACA renewed and live happily ever after

It is kinda like when your application is rejected(maybe because you did not sign it or missing info). Just my thoughts.


iah 03-23-2016 09:22 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidcomesback (Post 565970)
Yes, hopefully. Just waiting until I get my letter to see what the next steps should be. There's nothing bad on my Credit Report.

Did you mention in another post that you applied for MAVNI or something like that? Maybe this is why?

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-23-2016 11:47 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
That was someone else

Malign0n 03-23-2016 11:47 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
You can only apply a maximum of 150 days before the expiration of your DACA not 180. And they would reject the application and return it to you with a note to file later if that were the case

iah 03-24-2016 05:03 AM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
OP in another post

Kidcomesback:

'This is strange. I applied for MAVNI as well, and I got the same notification about termination'


The OP never mentions this at the begging of the post. ????

2MoreYears 03-24-2016 10:33 AM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Starting to think we've got infiltration going on here, probably a trump/dracula supporter.

kidcomesback 03-24-2016 11:25 AM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Yes, I applied for MAVNI as well. But that has no connection to this. Other people are having the same issue without being MAVNI applicants.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 565989)
Starting to think we've got infiltration going on here, probably a trump/dracula supporter.


Ianus 03-24-2016 04:36 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
You will be fine...it is an error on the site.

kidcomesback 03-24-2016 05:17 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
That's what I am hoping for. Do you know if we should be getting some information on the termination letter to sign up on another website? Supposedly, that's what's happening to someone who posted on VisaJourney. The other website seems to be tracking their case just fine, while My Case Status has their case terminated.

Wondering what my next move should be. We know that these renewals take until the last minute to process, and I don't want to lost my job.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 566001)
You will be fine...it is an error on the site.


Ianus 03-24-2016 10:35 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Yes, USCIS will ask that you sign up with them, but it doesn't effect the process if you don't sign up at all. I believe they give a grace period to do so also.

Just wait it out for a couple of weeks or until you get all of your statements. They will make this error quite clear.

Here is a solution,If you also want to check if you are still work authorized, check out E-verify self-check. If it is still valid then your DACA is not terminated...

Also, the biggest logic fail is why announce "case termination" on a completely new case without giving sometime to be assessed. USCIS takes time to make a decision or issues RFEs before issuing terminations. There is simply something amiss within their system that needs fixing.

uion1715 03-25-2016 02:24 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
E-mailed USCIS (mine is first-time DACA, not renewal), and got this. Seems like termination was an error:

Your case is awaiting the required biometrics submittal, and is currently in suspense until you complete this process. Your application information has been entered into the system which schedules applicants for biometrics at their local Application Support Center (ASC).

year2010 03-25-2016 07:37 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 566043)
E-mailed USCIS (mine is first-time DACA, not renewal), and got this. Seems like termination was an error:

Your case is awaiting the required biometrics submittal, and is currently in suspense until you complete this process. Your application information has been entered into the system which schedules applicants for biometrics at their local Application Support Center (ASC).

Did you receive the paper notification? if you did, what does it say?

uion1715 03-25-2016 07:49 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Haven't gotten the paper notification yet.

year2010 03-25-2016 08:01 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 566062)
Haven't gotten the paper notification yet.

I wonder what it could say if it is an error...

legendver2 03-25-2016 08:31 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Is this happening to second time renewals or is it happening across the board?

Ianus 03-25-2016 09:17 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by year2010 (Post 566064)
I wonder what it could say if it is an error...

It will not state that it is an error. What it should state from the service center is that your I-821D is in the normal process.
Quote:

Originally Posted by legendver2 (Post 566065)
Is this happening to second time renewals or is it happening across the board?

From what I can see, it has nothing to do with intervals one has applied. It has to do specifically with the IOE case number and its associated case status being reported prematurely wrong for DACA applicants.

uion1715 03-26-2016 03:18 AM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 566067)
From what I can see, it has nothing to do with intervals one has applied. It has to do specifically with the IOE case number and its associated case status being reported prematurely wrong for DACA applicants.

Seems to be the case as I just received a notification for biometrics even though myUSCIS still says my application was terminated.

legendver2 03-27-2016 09:16 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 566067)
It will not state that it is an error. What it should state from the service center is that your I-821D is in the normal process.
From what I can see, it has nothing to do with intervals one has applied. It has to do specifically with the IOE case number and its associated case status being reported prematurely wrong for DACA applicants.

So it doesn't seem like anyone renewing, first or second time, is getting any case numbers aside from the IOE? If someone have a receipt with LIN or WAC, please let us know!

Pianoswithoutfaith 03-28-2016 01:34 AM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Well, so far the only people whose DACA has been terminated are the ones who applied for the mavni and its those who are reporting it here

drdaca 03-28-2016 02:34 PM

Re: Got a notice of termination for DACA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 566127)
Well, so far the only people whose DACA has been terminated are the ones who applied for the mavni and its those who are reporting it here

That's incorrect. My status is currently terminated and I have never applied for MAVNI.


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