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Ianus 05-11-2016 05:23 PM
Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/27...igration-fight
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An annual defense policy bill is once again becoming embroiled in the debate over immigration.

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) filed an amendment to the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would strip out and replace language affirming the Defense secretary's ability to enlist anyone who is determined to be "vital to the national interest."

That would leave the door open to enlisting illegal immigrants if the person in question has an employment authorization issued under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

The language was added to the bill as an amendment during the House Armed Services Committee’s markup last month.

It was a substitute amendment offered by committee Chairman Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) after Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) introduced an amendment that would have directed the Defense secretary to establish a process under which people with legal status under President Obama's executive actions on immigratino could be enlisted.

Those people include children who came to or stayed in the United States illegally.



Thornberry’s amendment was adopted by the committee with a voice vote.

In place of that amendment, Gosar would put an amendment that says the Defense secretary can only enlist immigrants who are in the country legally as defined by the Immigration and Nationality Act.

That means those who fall under under Obama's executive orders would be excluded.

In a written statement, Gosar called the existing language “backdoor amnesty.”

“NDAA should be about providing critical funding for our troops, not debating immigration policy,” Gosar said. “Sadly, open border advocates have once again put politics ahead of the needs of our men and women in uniform in attempting to enact President Obama’s lawless agenda.”

In his own written statement, Gallego stressed that the language was a compromise offered by a Republican.

“This shouldn’t be a controversial issue,” he said. “This amendment is about defense and what is in the best interest of our nation and our military. I fought in Iraq, and I know that on the battlefield what matters is the character and commitment of the people you serve with, not their immigration status.”

A similar debate played out during the House debate on the NDAA last year.

The House ultimately voted to strip out a provision that would have established a sense of the House that the Pentagon should review allowing those affected by Obama's orders to enlist.

This year’s bill is expected to come to the House floor next week.
This should be interesting

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-11-2016 05:43 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
I don't see it happening

Demise 05-11-2016 06:51 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Oh for fuck's sake. Those assholes can attach a rider whenever they feel like, what about democrats? Slip the Dream Act in a committee? Can't do, give it to the full fucking senate to filibuster time after time again...

dado123 05-11-2016 07:24 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
can someone put this is in regular English, are they voting to allow daca holders to join the military and earn citizenship in this manner?

Demise 05-11-2016 07:57 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dado123 (Post 567540)
can someone put this is in regular English, are they voting to allow daca holders to join the military and earn citizenship in this manner?
Whoever wrote this article needs to go back to kindergarten.

EdoIsa 05-11-2016 09:57 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dado123 (Post 567540)
can someone put this is in regular English, are they voting to allow daca holders to join the military and earn citizenship in this manner?
I think so

DACA-IR-DA 05-12-2016 02:11 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
What about the eDACA?

zeomax 05-12-2016 07:49 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 567557)
What about the eDACA?
Anyone under DACA. That encompasses eDaca.

DACA-IR-DA 05-13-2016 01:16 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeomax (Post 567563)
Anyone under DACA. That encompasses eDaca.
People who are undocumented who would qualify for eDACA can get a permit from this bill?

Demise 05-13-2016 09:19 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 567605)
People who are undocumented who would qualify for eDACA can get a permit from this bill?
I honestly doubt you'd pass the ASVAB.

Sorrybrah 05-13-2016 09:28 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demise (Post 567612)
I honestly doubt you'd pass the ASVAB.
It's funny you say that, most citizens my recruiter took to MEPS scored less than 30 points in ASVAB even after taking it the 2nd time, one potential recruit scored 8 after taking it twice and 'studying' for it. Now I am a 26 year old and I've been out from college for a long time now and got an 80, long story short, he's amazed at how I simplified the process for him.

Bottom line is, what I said didn't add anything to this conversation what so ever, just wanted to e-brag.

Demise 05-13-2016 09:23 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 567613)
It's funny you say that, most citizens my recruiter took to MEPS scored less than 30 points in ASVAB even after taking it the 2nd time, one potential recruit scored 8 after taking it twice and 'studying' for it. Now I am a 26 year old and I've been out from college for a long time now and got an 80, long story short, he's amazed at how I simplified the process for him.

Bottom line is, what I said didn't add anything to this conversation what so ever, just wanted to e-brag.
I only took a sample one before I got cold feet and backed out of MAVNI. It predicted I'd score somewhere around 97th percentile. Really not that hard, but some people manage to function despite being completely retarded.

Anyways, maximum age for enlistment is 35, MAVNI or not. You need to ship to basic while you're still 34 or under. So considering that DAUser was somewhere between 31-35 back in December of 2010*, that'd make him 36-41 today. So over the enlistment age. So expect him to become a complete enemy of the program, and the INA 329 naturalization in general, now that someone did enlighten him regarding his ineligibility even if eDACA does come around...

* - I know because he raged and raved about the fact that DA2010 had an age limit of 30 and would spam what about 31-35, or what about 30+, and overall turned into a complete opponent of the act that he managed to out-do asshats like Lamar Smith and Jeff Sessions.

DACA-IR-DA 05-14-2016 01:38 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demise (Post 567612)
I honestly doubt you'd pass the ASVAB.
Ineligible for eDACA? Why? There is no age cap.

Demise 05-14-2016 02:05 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 567651)
Ineligible for eDACA? Why? There is no age cap.
ASVAB is the test that army gives you. Math, English, and few other areas.

Also even though eDACA doesn't have an age cap the US Army does limit enlistment to those up to 35 years old. MAVNI (DACA) or not.

DACA-IR-DA 05-14-2016 09:04 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demise (Post 567652)
ASVAB is the test that army gives you. Math, English, and few other areas.

Also even though eDACA doesn't have an age cap the US Army does limit enlistment to those up to 35 years old. MAVNI (DACA) or not.
Except there is no test to get eDACA.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-14-2016 09:39 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
it should have a test which we all know DAuser would fail for writing "whatever it takes"

danieltij 05-14-2016 11:34 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 567674)
Except there is no test to get eDACA.
Whatever it takes!

DACA-IR-DA 05-15-2016 04:41 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 567675)
it should have a test which we all know DAuser would fail for writing "whatever it takes"
It does not. It is what it is. Quit hating lol

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-15-2016 06:09 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
What made you come back to the forum?

Chyno 05-24-2016 10:05 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
He came back to see you show me where I am spamming with that link about Bernie on H1B visas.

2MoreYears 05-25-2016 09:57 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Chyno hasn't answered my question, I'll give you until the end of the day to answer, otherwise you'll confirm what I've been saying all the time.

Chyno 05-25-2016 07:36 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568395)
Chyno hasn't answered my question, I'll give you until the end of the day to answer, otherwise you'll confirm what I've been saying all the time.
Your question is not on this thread. Can you please point me to where it is?

2MoreYears 05-27-2016 02:40 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Do you think dumb trump won't deport us if he ever becomes president?

Chyno 05-27-2016 07:02 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568701)
Do you think dumb trump won't deport us if he ever becomes president?
Not DACa and good illegals.

There is no money to deport of us all.

2MoreYears 05-27-2016 07:39 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Show me facts please. How do you know dump trump won't use his own money to deport you ?

Chyno 05-27-2016 10:16 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568736)
Show me facts please. How do you know dump trump won't use his own money to deport you ?
Here is the source where he won't deport us.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Dona...mmigration.htm

2MoreYears 05-27-2016 10:21 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
I can't find it. Please quote it.

Chyno 05-27-2016 10:40 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568755)
I can't find it. Please quote it.
Quote:
We have at least 11 million people that came in illegally. They will go out. Some will come back, the best, through a process.
Let me know if I have to do your laundry too next time.

Dukem88 05-27-2016 10:48 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Yea you gonna leave the part where he says "only the best". Cause im pretty sure it goes "...the best, through a process, but only the best...." I was watching him live when he said it... So yea... you gonna leave that out?

What are you going to do if ICE knocks on your door? You gonna show them sources and links to when Trump said he's only deporting "the best"? And then ICE asks you wheres the proof that ure the best? What chuuu gonna do Chyno?

Chyno 05-28-2016 06:02 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
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Originally Posted by Dukem88 (Post 568774)
Yea you gonna leave the part where he says "only the best". Cause im pretty sure it goes "...the best, through a process, but only the best...." I was watching him live when he said it... So yea... you gonna leave that out?

What are you going to do if ICE knocks on your door? You gonna show them sources and links to when Trump said he's only deporting "the best"? And then ICE asks you wheres the proof that ure the best? What chuuu gonna do Chyno?
"Fuck Mexicans"

Why isn't this guy ban altogether with Piano s well.

They don't like Mexicans and we cannot tolerate that here.

Dukem88 05-28-2016 01:18 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
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Originally Posted by Chyno (Post 568809)
"Fuck Mexicans"

Why isn't this guy ban altogether with Piano s well.

They don't like Mexicans and we cannot tolerate that here.
You gonna spread lies now? When did i say fuck Mexicans.. I said fucking Mexicans. You need to be banned Chyno. Nothing has ever been more clear to me now. And im gonna find Nick's email that im pretty sure i still have and ill have a word with him about it.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-28-2016 01:24 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
You two seriously have something deeper than me and Chyno or anyone here. You both lose your cool very easily.


Why do you guys keep brining me into your little cheerleading rants? Next poster who says my name is a Trump supporter

Dukem88 05-28-2016 01:43 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Let me guess... After you do your wave of replies to every thread, Chyno is going to show up and do his.... Interesting.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-28-2016 01:53 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Like the wave of replies you just did?

What is your source Chyno will reply to every thread I do ? Sure he has copied my trademark signature "quote" doesn't mean he's going to copy my posting style either.

Chyno 05-28-2016 03:50 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 568845)
Like the wave of replies you just did?

What is your source Chyno will reply to every thread I do ? Sure he has copied my trademark signature "quote" doesn't mean he's going to copy my posting style either.
I need to defend myself.

Survival of the fittest.

Chyno 05-28-2016 03:51 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukem88 (Post 568839)
You gonna spread lies now? When did i say fuck Mexicans.. I said fucking Mexicans. You need to be banned Chyno. Nothing has ever been more clear to me now. And im gonna find Nick's email that im pretty sure i still have and ill have a word with him about it.
What's the difference between the two statements?

Care to elaborate

Dukem88 05-28-2016 04:32 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
One means "those fuckings guys" and the other means "fuck those guys" know the difference. Stop spreading lies through out the forums bitch. Cause u think people arent reading your crap? U think theyre not looking at different threads? U think ure fooling anyone? Theres like 30 acitve memebrs here they all see who u are Chyno. I may be an asshole, but ure a god damn poser.

danieltij 05-28-2016 09:05 PM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
lol Dukem now getting into the mix

EdoIsa 05-29-2016 03:57 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukem88 (Post 568774)
Yea you gonna leave the part where he says "only the best". Cause im pretty sure it goes "...the best, through a process, but only the best...." I was watching him live when he said it... So yea... you gonna leave that out?

What are you going to do if ICE knocks on your door? You gonna show them sources and links to when Trump said he's only deporting "the best"? And then ICE asks you wheres the proof that ure the best? What chuuu gonna do Chyno?
Haha God damn Trump, he's turning users of this forum against one another.

Chyno 05-29-2016 08:15 AM
Re: Defense bill amendment sets up immigration fight
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukem88 (Post 568878)
One means "those fuckings guys" and the other means "fuck those guys" know the difference. Stop spreading lies through out the forums bitch. Cause u think people arent reading your crap? U think theyre not looking at different threads? U think ure fooling anyone? Theres like 30 acitve memebrs here they all see who u are Chyno. I may be an asshole, but ure a god damn poser.
So you put a whole group of Mexicans, 112.3 million mexicans, into one single group and say "those fucking Mexicans". The whole 112.3 million mexicans.

All of them,you said those f people. All of them. I mean how much hatred does this guy have.

Ban this, hatred should not be tolerated.


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