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jaylove16 05-18-2016 05:16 PM

House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
GOP leaders on Wednesday declined to green-light an amendment submitted by Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) to strip language in the bill that affirms the Defense secretary's ability to enlist anyone considered "vital to the national interest."

Gosar and other immigration hard-liners sought to eliminate the provision and clarify that the Pentagon can only enlist immigrants who are in the country legally.



This year, Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) tried to offer an amendment during this year’s committee markup of the defense bill that would have instructed the Pentagon to establish a process for immigrants given legal status under President Obama’s executive actions to enlist.

The panel ended up adopting the “vital to the national interest” language, offered by House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry (R-Texas), as a compromise.

Gosar warned during a statement before the House Rules Committee on Tuesday that the language in this year’s bill could be interpreted as tacitly allowing the Obama administration to continue enlisting DACA recipients in a program that permits highly skilled legal immigrants to serve in the military. The program, called Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest, is intended to recruit people with highly sought language or medical skills.

Congress must pass my amendment or else the Obama Administration will continue to operate its backdoor amnesty program,” Gosar said.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/28...n-defense-bill
Wonder what this means if the defense bill passes. The defense secretary could deem as vital to the national interest and maybe allow us to serve?

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-18-2016 06:06 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
I knew it

Sorrybrah 05-18-2016 07:22 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Excuse my poor reading comprehension, but is this good or bad for us?

jaylove16 05-18-2016 07:32 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 567860)
Excuse my poor reading comprehension, but is this good or bad for us?

This is good for us. It gives the defense secretary authority to allow us to enlist if he deems it vital to the nation's interest. The anti-immigrant reps tried to strike that part of the bill down but they were blocked from doing so.

Sorrybrah 05-18-2016 07:57 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 567862)
This is good for us. It gives the defense secretary authority to allow us to enlist if he deems it vital to the nation's interest. The anti-immigrant reps tried to strike that part of the bill down but they were blocked from doing so.

Thank you sir

K-Man 05-18-2016 08:13 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 567862)
This is good for us. It gives the defense secretary authority to allow us to enlist if he deems it vital to the nation's interest. The anti-immigrant reps tried to strike that part of the bill down but they were blocked from doing so.

I think you're misinterpreting that acronym, 'vital to the national interest' is literally the MAVNI program, which will probably remain status quo for the qualifications. It's still a pilot program which end/renews fiscally, and sometimes it goes away for couple of years and comes back depending on the situation.

The bill that they tried to push through was a different program where DACA can openly enlist (means doesn't have to qualify as a language or medical specialist, which is the MAVNI program), and I think the adjustment is for PR instead of citizenship.

What they did here was trying to pass that version^, and failed. So no, the answer is nothing's really happened. They're not gonna consider the entire pool of DACA to be 'vital to national interest' which is I think how you're reading it.

Someone feel free to correct me wrong after reading the entire article please.

K-Man 05-18-2016 08:18 PM

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I'm not sure if this will get any traction, but the law makers behind the MAVNI is also pushing for a similar program, but one with permanent traction and not an annual/fiscal one, also I don't think you have to be a language specialist to qualify for this one: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...ouse-bill/3698

What they mentioned in the article sounds a lot like that bill.

2MoreYears 05-18-2016 08:18 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
So what's the deal? What's at stake? DACERers can enlist in the military and fast track their citizenship? Has any DACAer has become citizen through military service?


Thank you in advance.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-18-2016 09:26 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Not sure if i would like my freedom as an illegal alien to be protected any an illegal alien in military clothing

Sorrybrah 05-18-2016 10:56 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 567870)
Not sure if i would like my freedom as an illegal alien to be protected any an illegal alien in military clothing

I am confident Chyno will be able to protect our freedom, just have to elect Trump first.

2MoreYears 05-18-2016 11:45 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Self deportation will allow him to do so abroad, good coverage.

DACA-IR-DA 05-19-2016 01:04 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Good for eDACA?

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-19-2016 01:59 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Where is Chyno lately?

Chyno 05-19-2016 06:50 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 567879)
Where is Chyno lately?

I was volunteering last night at a STEM event educating kids that come from bad neighborhoods. Where have you been lately? Praying Hilary will win.

You better pray she drops.

Recent polls May 18th 2017 shows Hilary losing the election
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...andidates.html

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-19-2016 11:28 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Now now Chyno this is the Internet no need to make stuff up.

When are you buying your first class tickets back home ?

2MoreYears 05-20-2016 09:26 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Nobody watches FAX news.

Chyno 05-20-2016 10:21 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 567946)
Nobody watches FAX news.

The source is reported by Fox news but it was done from both dem and rep sides. It is not biased nor fake.

Chyno 05-21-2016 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 567893)
Now now Chyno this is the Internet no need to make stuff up.

When are you buying your first class tickets back home ?

I didn't lie.

Why would I go back to Colombia USA is my home.

2MoreYears 05-22-2016 03:04 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
If you were a citizen who would you vote for? trump or Hillary?

Chyno 05-22-2016 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568064)
If you were a citizen who would you vote for? trump or Hillary?

Neither. I said it on other posts. I bet Obama wouldn't even vote for Hilary.

2MoreYears 05-22-2016 11:09 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Is that a fact?

Chyno 05-22-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568095)
Is that a fact?

I said I bet which is a hypothesis.

2MoreYears 05-23-2016 02:09 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Do yourself a favor and never go to Vegas. Obama undoubtedly favors Hillary.

Chyno 05-23-2016 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568110)
Do yourself a favor and never go to Vegas. Obama undoubtedly favors Hillary.

I will go to Vegas.

2MoreYears 05-23-2016 11:22 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
It's your money, but don't bring your trump nonsense here. You look like a jerk doing so.

Chyno 05-23-2016 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568127)
It's your money, but don't bring your trump nonsense here. You look like a jerk doing so.

Trump won Nevada. I don't support Trump anyways.

Source: http://www.politico.com/2016-electio.../map/president

Facts don't lie.

2MoreYears 05-24-2016 11:31 AM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Stop being confused, no one is saying dump trump didn't win Nevada.

Chyno 05-24-2016 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568209)
Stop being confused, no one is saying dump trump didn't win Nevada.

You said don't bring Trump nonsense here. It seems people there love Trump.

I'm not confused, you are, just like crooked Hilary

2MoreYears 05-24-2016 05:02 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
You're not winning, everyone sees that. Please do yourself a favor and stop.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-24-2016 05:23 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Can we ban Chyno already? The guy clearly doesn't belong here and is most likely sharing these thread with his bronie I mean Bernies bros

Chyno 05-24-2016 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 568227)
You're not winning, everyone sees that. Please do yourself a favor and stop.

Really that's what you have to say and how you going to end it. Love it how you change topics when I'm right.

Chyno 05-24-2016 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 568229)
Can we ban Chyno already? The guy clearly doesn't belong here and is most likely sharing these thread with his bronie I mean Bernies bros

I didn't know supporting Crooked Hilary was a perquisite for this forum.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-24-2016 07:56 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
"I am right"
" you can't handle the facts "
"Liar liar like Hilary"

Chyno had he been born here would have made an excellent cheerleader

Chyno 05-24-2016 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 568237)
"I am right"
" you can't handle the facts "
"Liar liar like Hilary"

Chyno had he been born here would have made an excellent cheerleader

And if you were born here you would been a great bully.

That is all you are doing to my comments, just insulting them and not contributing at all with facts or proving me wrong.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-24-2016 09:14 PM

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I don't need to prove your wrong nor do I need to prove myself right and you know why?
Because everyone here can see the hyprocisy in your posts. No one here is agreeing with you at all. No one and get here you are promoting trump ( if you support Bernie by default you support
Trump because Bernie bros have stated if their man Bernie doesn't get the nomination they're not voting for crooked lying Hilary or will vote for trump)


Actually we did once when we told you Bernie hates foreigners here and taking away American jobs which you resorted to saying

" wahh wahh he actually isn't talking about us Americans he's talking foreign visa workers "

denial comic relief that's all you are here. You don't fit with Bernie bros because you can't vote and you don't fit in with illegal folks here because you believe they are taking away your Bernie bros jobs. But by all means keep supporting a man who is only going to deport you later than Trump.

Chyno 05-24-2016 09:18 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 568264)
I don't need to prove your wrong nor do I need to prove myself right and you know why?
Because everyone here can see the hyprocisy in your posts. No one here is agreeing with you at all. No one and get here you are promoting trump ( if you support Bernie by default you support
Trump because Bernie bros have stated if their man Bernie doesn't get the nomination they're not voting for crooked lying Hilary or will vote for trump)


Actually we did once when we told you Bernie hates foreigners here and taking away American jobs which you resorted to saying

" wahh wahh he actually isn't talking about us Americans he's talking foreign visa workers "

denial comic relief that's all you are here. You don't fit with Bernie bros because you can't vote and you don't fit in with illegal folks here because you believe they are taking away your Bernie bros jobs. But by all means keep supporting a man who is only going to deport you later than Trump.

Do you think I care about people supporting me? What I care about is showing people with facts and sources that you are wrong and keep in mind that our only hope is Bernie.

That is all I am doing.

Keep being a bully and keep trying to bring me down. The only thing that will go down are your hopes of Hilary winning in November.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-24-2016 09:24 PM

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No one here is seeing your comical effort. No one everyone can see right through you. You van try and try it at the end of the day people only care about their own interest. And you know whats the most important interest for everyone here well except you. Their status or actually their lawful presense and how safe it is. If you want to show everyone who crooked Hilary then go to a forum where legal aliens are there who don't have DACA. Not here. Why do you keep forgetting that everyone here only cares about their ability to be here? You clearly don't care about yours maybe that's why you can't find anyone to relate with here

Chyno 05-24-2016 09:26 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 568275)
No one here is seeing your comical effort. No one everyone can see right through you. You van try and try it at the end of the day people only care about their own interest. And you know whats the most important interest for everyone here well except you. Their status or actually their lawful presense and how safe it is. If you want to show everyone who crooked Hilary then go to a forum where legal aliens are there who don't have DACA. Not here. Why do you keep forgetting that everyone here only cares about their ability to be here? You clearly don't care about yours maybe that's why you can't find anyone to relate with here

I proved you with facts and sources that Bernie aint going to deport us.

It is your own ignorance and assumptions that makes you believe Hilary is the only pro immigrant.

You think a H1B visa recipient is the same as a DACA recipient. That is an insult to everybody here in the forums.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-24-2016 09:30 PM

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The principle here isn't that that they are same but the consequences they have for legal Americans aliens and their job welfare.


" I show evidence you didn't!!"
" if you can't prove facts don't posts!!!"
" and now I activate the bully card!"

Chyno is good at making people here laugh

Chyno 05-24-2016 09:31 PM

Re: House GOP avoids debate over immigration in defense bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 568282)
The principle here isn't that that they are same but the consequences they have for legal Americans aliens and their job welfare.


" I show evidence you didn't!!"
" if you can't prove facts don't posts!!!"
" and now I activate the bully card!"

Chyno is good at making people here laugh

So now your making up your own principles so you can make Bernie look bad.

What a joke.

Keep dreaming Hilary will win in November.


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