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edie0789 01-13-2017 10:18 AM

Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
During a town hall with CNN on Thursday, House Speaker Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) stated that there won’t be a deportation force going after people who received protection under DACA, and there needs to be a solution for people protected under the act so they can get “right with the law” and doesn’t separate families.

Ryan was asked by a woman who said she had been protected from deportation by DACA if he believed she should be deported. He answered that he didn’t. He added, “I hope you’re future is here. I’ll even repeat the sentiment the our incoming president says. That’s the problem he wants to focus on. This is not the focus. And so, what we have to do is find a way to make sure that you can get right with the law, and we’ve got to do this in a good way so that the rug doesn’t get pulled out from under you and your family gets separated. That’s the way we feel, and that is exactly what our new incoming president has stated he wants to do.”

He further stated that the woman should not be afraid about a “deportation force” knocking on her door later this year.

Ryan also said that there needs to be a solution for DACA kids and there is a “constitutional issue” with the fact that DACA was done by the president without Congress.

When asked if he would introduce legislation to block the use of information the government has on people who received protection from DACA to deport them, Ryan answered, “No. Everybody thinks that there’s some deportation force that’s being assembled. That’s not happening.”
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Ianus 01-13-2017 11:04 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
I don't doubt Ryan will make an effort, however, his caucus is going to be the problem.

dado123 01-13-2017 11:24 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 596287)
I don't doubt Ryan will make an effort, however, his caucus is going to be the problem.

I am afraid if Trump Repeals DACA and ask congress to pass legislation, congress will just not have the necessary votes. I think the best way to keep DACA in place until congress passes something than rescind. Just my two cents.

MIdreamer 01-13-2017 11:32 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 596287)
I don't doubt Ryan will make an effort, however, his caucus is going to be the problem.

I agree. Base on the whole Ethics Committee situation in the house, it seems like Paul Ryan doesn't have control of house GOP. House GOP overruled him to bring that bill to a vote.

Dreamer3ooo 01-13-2017 11:37 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dado123 (Post 596291)
I am afraid if Trump Repeals DACA and ask congress to pass legislation, congress will just not have the necessary votes. I think the best way to keep DACA in place until congress passes something than rescind. Just my two cents.

Keeping DACA would be our best case scenario. I still think something good can pass if it's attached to some sort of enforcement bill, but I'm afraid that might take a long time. In the meantime people will be expiring everyday and losing their jobs. It's not as simple as not being deported, I need to be able to work legally in order to survive.

2MoreYears 01-13-2017 11:41 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Ryan should be our next president and trump should not repeal DACA before a replacement is in place. As simple as that.

eva02 01-13-2017 11:50 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
I think he has to repeal DACA to light a fire under the GOPs a** so to speak. We might have the votes and if Ryan assists his caucus this is what trump wants it has a better chance of passing. Lord knows they don't want him calling them out on twitter.

Demise 01-13-2017 12:44 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
COUGH COUGH DREAM ACT COUGH COUGH

Sorry, took my asthma medication and it's all coming out.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-13-2017 02:23 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
End daca think of solution later

That's the republican way

JohannBernoulli1667 01-13-2017 02:29 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Once we go back to the shadows, it will take until we have a Democratic president and Congress to fix it. They think being undocumented is an easy feat, a cake walk.

Polska1 01-13-2017 02:37 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
I'm afraid if trump ends daca that we all get deported back to our countries

JohannBernoulli1667 01-13-2017 02:45 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polska1 (Post 596311)
I'm afraid if trump ends daca that we all get deported back to our countries

We understand, it is unlikely.

Relax, you will not be deported but you might lose your working privileges and depending where you are driving privileges as well at least for a while.

dreamerperson 01-13-2017 02:52 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Yeah that's the biggest fear for me

jaylove16 01-13-2017 02:54 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
With all the positive news we've been getting lately, people are still acting like nothing has changed. Remember right after the elections there was NO hope. So stop being negative Nancys and be prepared for a fight! I wish Paul Ryan would have said something negative like yea we are going to deport all daca recepients so that you guys can be happy.

Dreamernb87 01-13-2017 02:58 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 596312)
We understand, it is unlikely.

Relax, you will not be deported but you might lose your working privileges and depending where you are driving privileges as well at least for a while.

Ending DACA does not necessary mean losing your working privileges (EAD). Unless he purposely rescinds them.

Ianus 01-13-2017 03:04 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamernb87 (Post 596315)
Ending DACA does not necessary mean losing your working privileges (EAD). Unless he purposely rescinds them.

From what I can see, ending DACA can mean many things.

-End the Program...

-End the Program, but still process renewals that have been accepted or grandfathered

-End the program and stop processing renewals but keep current EADs

-End the Program, stop processing renewals and rescind current EADs

Huge note: The President elect has said he will end DACA, but he has not mentioned anything about Deferred Action itself on a limited basis.

Many of the first dreamers who gained Deferred Action applied directly by lobbying the Secretary of Homeland Security, Chertoff. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. That is the danger of discretion!

Dreamernb87 01-13-2017 03:09 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 596316)
From what I can see, ending DACA can mean many things.

-End the Program...

-End the Program, but still process renewals that have been accepted or grandfathered

-End the program and stop processing renewals but keep current EADs

-End the Program, stop processing renewals and rescind current EADs

Huge note: The President elect has said he will end DACA, but he has not mentioned anything about Deferred Action itself on a limited basis.

Many of the first dreamers who gained Deferred Action applied directly by lobbying the Secretary of Homeland Security, Chertoff. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. That is the danger of discretion!

This is most likely the outcome. He will end the program, but if you have it, good for you... it seems to be the American/Republican way.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-13-2017 03:20 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Ending daca means a lot of things

Is Trump talking about i821D? Or i765?

We can only get i765 through i821D but trump can't just say oh and i765 has to go too.


Because we can only get i765 through i821D and if that ends, it won't mean our EADS are invalid. I don't understand the full process but it won't be an easy task for trump. Unless he did some EO cancelling and ending like that. But that would be political sucide

Dreamernb87 01-13-2017 03:28 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 596318)
Ending daca means a lot of things

Is Trump talking about i821D? Or i765?

We can only get i765 through i821D but trump can't just say oh and i765 has to go too.


Because we can only get i765 through i821D and if that ends, it won't mean our EADS are invalid. I don't understand the full process but it won't be an easy task for trump. Unless he did some EO cancelling and ending like that. But that would be political sucide


Implying that Trump knows the difference.

DACA will be decided depending on how Trump feels that day.

I can picture it going like this..

Monday

Trump's transition team: Mr. Trump, what should we do about Obama's ILLEGAL amnesty!?
Trump: END IT!!
Trump's transition team: What about those who already have it?
Trump: I don't care, good for them


or


Friday

Trump's transition team: Mr. Trump, what should we do about Obama's ILLEGAL amnesty!?
Trump: Work something out, They got brought here at a very young age, they’ve worked here, they’ve gone to school here. Some were good students. Some have wonderful jobs, just wonderful, the best.
Trump's transition team: So what we should do?
Trump: I don't care, ignore it.

My point being, I bet there is no "deep" or "thorough" consideration of the pros and cons of ending DACA from the Trump administration, it will be a spur of the moment thing... decided by Trump.

Polska1 01-13-2017 03:29 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamernb87 (Post 596317)
This is most likely the outcome. He will end the program, but if you have it, good for you... it seems to be the American/Republican way.

But the main problem for me is that I have car payments and other bills to pay and if daca ends and my EAD expires then I am screwed.

jaylove16 01-13-2017 03:35 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polska1 (Post 596322)
But the main problem for me is that I have car payments and other bills to pay and if daca ends and my EAD expires then I am screwed.

You are so damn annoying. You're not the only one whose livelihood is at stake here.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-13-2017 03:43 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Yeah the guy is seriously trolling now

libertarian1776 01-13-2017 03:54 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
that polska person is so fucking selfish.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 596325)
You are so damn annoying. You're not the only one whose livelihood is at stake here.


libertarian1776 01-13-2017 04:10 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
we should all just self-deport then. havent u been keeping up with news? do you live under a rock?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Polska1 (Post 596311)
I'm afraid if trump ends daca that we all get deported back to our countries


JohannBernoulli1667 01-13-2017 07:00 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596341)
we should all just self-deport then. havent u been keeping up with news? do you live under a rock?

He is a troll suspected always.

Polska1 01-13-2017 07:53 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamernb87 (Post 596317)
This is most likely the outcome. He will end the program, but if you have it, good for you... it seems to be the American/Republican way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 596367)
He is a troll suspected always.

Why does everyone think that I am trolling, I'm not trolling and it's not my fault that trump is threatening to repeal Daca and deport us

danieltij 01-13-2017 08:10 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polska1 (Post 596373)
Why does everyone think that I am trolling, I'm not trolling and it's not my fault that trump is threatening to repeal Daca and deport us

You keep posting the same thing. We get it, no one wants to be deported.

libertarian1776 01-13-2017 08:12 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
wtf r u talking about? you are seriously trolling... have u been living under a rock? have u read trumps interview with TIME magazine?

and if we do get deported you have your 5th amendment rights and due process. and if it doesnt work out for you, life moves the fuck on.. yall are fucking DREAMers if u guys can make it here for years without documents yall can make it anywhere.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Polska1 (Post 596373)
Why does everyone think that I am trolling, I'm not trolling and it's not my fault that trump is threatening to repeal Daca and deport us


2Face 01-13-2017 08:24 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
On a side note, any scumbag dreamer who wishes another dreamer to be deported should be slapped across the face and then deported him/herself. You're fired and outta here! As the tycoon would say...

libertarian1776 01-13-2017 08:34 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
oh god, just the ironic antithesis of your comment is illogical. dude, get over yourself.. i called you out on it because you were riding your fuhrer trump so hard at an unprecedented rate in this forum. if you dont like it you can find a safe space if you can't take comments like that. this is america bro, im not concerened if i hurt your feelings. anyways, we are all just having fun and its just for jokes and ratings as president-elect trump would say... dont get your panties in a bunch, bigly!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 596377)
On a side note, any scumbag dreamer who wishes another dreamer to be deported should be slapped across the face and then deported him/herself. You're fired and outta here! As the tycoon would say...


2Face 01-13-2017 08:39 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
It's called being logical and trying to calm the forum down. I've done a fantastic job doing that. We've got youngins and their families lurking around. I can't take mofos spreading lies and scaring people off. Idiots on here were actually saying "Dude we're going to get deported." Like bro STFU and use your damn brain. The dude doesn't give a shit about you. He doesn't even know there's a thing called DACA. Businessmen don't create conglomerates having these types of thoughts. Instead of hating, you should appreciate ones ingenuity.

libertarian1776 01-13-2017 08:43 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
dude i wholeheartedly agree with everything youre saying about calming the forum down. and youre right about no one getting deported. but please for the sake of sanity, dial back the slurping of the president-elect. it makes you look like the only one in this forum that would blow him for a green card.



Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 596381)
It's called being logical and trying to calm the forum down. I've done a fantastic job doing that. We've got youngins and their families lurking around. I can't take mofos spreading lies and scaring people off. Idiots on here were actually saying "Dude we're going to get deported." Like bro STFU and use your damn brain. The dude doesn't give a shit about you. He doesn't even know there's a thing called DACA. Businessmen don't create conglomerates having these types of thoughts. Instead of hating, you should appreciate ones ingenuity.


2Face 01-13-2017 08:50 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596382)
dude i wholeheartedly agree with everything youre saying about calming the forum down. and youre right about no one getting deported. but please for the sake of sanity, dial back the slurping of the president-elect. it makes you look like the only one in this forum that would blow him for a green card.

I can't help it. I do that in real life to all types of people. Hence I'm living like a King right now under 30. But that's something we don't want to get into. You don't appear to have the vision to detect the mogul's real agenda through his speech and background so we'll just leave this here. You sound like the guy who goes to rallies with signs that say "YES WE CAIN" lol.

libertarian1776 01-13-2017 08:52 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
bro, im pretty sure trump will legalize us through congress which we agree on. but shit man lol im not gonna blow smoke up his ass. we all know he will take credit for legalizing us and being the savior, but truly it will be congress who does good by us.


and nah man, i hate going to social justice rallies dawg, im a conservative/libertarian that support Dreamers bruh.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 596384)
I can't help it. I do that in real life to all types of people. Hence I'm living like a King right now under 30. But that's something we don't want to get into. You don't appear to have the vision to detect the mogul's real agenda through his speech and background so we'll just leave this here. You sound like the guy who goes to rallies with signs that say "YES WE CAIN" lol.


2Face 01-13-2017 08:57 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596385)
bro, im pretty sure trump will legalize us through congress which we agree on. but shit man lol im not gonna blow smoke up his ass. we all know he will take credit for legalizing us and being the savior, but truly it will be congress who does good by us.


and nah man, i hate going to social justice rallies dawg, im a conservative/libertarian that support Dreamers bruh.

Consider this as truce then because I like your rhetoric now. Gotta be like Trump my brah. Call out the mofos who tackle you just like he did to the Republicans today. Called them out on twitter like it was his job. Why do I have a feeling you're from back in the day. I actually think this son of a gun will actually give us legal status way I see it. He has very in depth relations, or as you may like to say deeeeeeeep relations with the hispanic community and all types of CEOs/CFOs. These dudes are all about immigration. Give me travel authorization and I'm good. That's all I personally need. Oh and maybe DACA like status for my parents.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-13-2017 09:03 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
National guard sounds pretty good actually

Dreamer999 01-13-2017 11:28 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polska1 (Post 596322)
But the main problem for me is that I have car payments and other bills to pay and if daca ends and my EAD expires then I am screwed.

Yeah you're screwed man, unlike the rest of us.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-14-2017 01:14 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
He's been actively posting the same thing never adding any real
content

libertarian1776 01-14-2017 04:30 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Polska1 :sad:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamer999 (Post 596399)
Yeah you're screwed man, unlike the rest of us.


Vze77ach 01-14-2017 01:11 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
If Trump insists on revoking DACA And deport DACA recipients, there is no way Congress can stop him except for passing
The Bridge Act . But the chance for the passage of Bridge Act is not good . Most republican have no sympathy and will oppose it. I am not optimistic. Hoping God will change their mind ! Gold bless us !


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