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Swim19 02-03-2017 02:05 PM

WH Press Briefing - DACA Question
 
So Sean Spicer was asked about when DACA & DAPA are ending by radio host skyping from Alabama:

"We are reviewing these programs"...."We’ll see more action on that in the next few weeks."

I didn't watch it, just saw this on twitter.

edie0789 02-03-2017 02:09 PM

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I saw it. The question was when is the program ending?

bernie925 02-03-2017 02:19 PM

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The person asking when will Daca end. Spicer said that trump has fulfilled many of his campaign promises. Spicer didn't know how to answer the question. He was trying to chose his words carefully. He said Trump will take some action in the next few weeks.

This doesn't mean he's repealing it. Just that Trump will do something.

libertarian1776 02-03-2017 02:21 PM

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he wont get rid of DACA unless there is a replacement. its obvious with Spicer's answer he doesnt want to end it, they are basically saying give us a break guys... we kept most of our campaign promises regarding immigration like the muslim ban, refugee, etc and we can leave daca alone etc all that bullshit.

bernie925 02-03-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 601791)
he wont get rid of DACA unless there is a replacement. its obvious with Spicer's answer he doesnt want to end it, they are basically saying give us a break guys... we kept most of a our campaign promises like the muslim ban, refugee, etc and we can leave daca alone etc all that bullshit.

Exactly

isk84life 02-03-2017 02:23 PM

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https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/sta...78550270230531

That doesn't sound good.

libertarian1776 02-03-2017 02:26 PM

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lmao god some people just hate us ya know? even though majority of the country supports us.

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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 601794)


bernie925 02-03-2017 02:31 PM

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Some people have nothing better to do with their lives smh

jaylove16 02-03-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 601794)

He danced around the question. It's neither good or bad IMO.

2MoreYears 02-03-2017 02:51 PM

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The answer should be when a replacement is in place. Simple, clear and straight to the point.

libertarian1776 02-03-2017 02:52 PM

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they dont wanna trigger their alipac, fair and immigration hardliner base. they would rather not say anything about our issue and leave it alone. lol

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 601801)
The answer should be when a replacement is in place. Simple, clear and straight to the point.


isk84life 02-03-2017 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 601799)
He danced around the question. It's neither good or bad IMO.

He is not saying Trump will work with congress anymore...

cooltalker 02-03-2017 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 601799)
He danced around the question. It's neither good or bad IMO.

Exactly, we still don't need anything.

jaylove16 02-03-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 601803)
He is not saying Trump will work with congress anymore...


Relax, don't read into these things too much.

2MoreYears 02-03-2017 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 601802)
they dont wanna trigger their alipac, fair and immigration hardliner base. they would rather not say anything about our issue and leave it alone. lol

True.

dreamerperson 02-03-2017 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 601795)
lmao god some people just hate us ya know? even though majority of the country supports us.

"Gonna get rid of the Mexicans" lol, which pretty much confirms to me that they wouldnt be this hateful if we were mostly white Europeans..(altho i know there are white latinos, but still lol)

JohannBernoulli1667 02-03-2017 03:18 PM

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To me this means good news, they don't want to end it.

libertarian1776 02-03-2017 03:20 PM

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the fair, alipac, immigration hard-liners are so triggered that the trump administration are not talking about this. lmao

JohannBernoulli1667 02-03-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 601814)
the fair, alipac, immigration hard-liners are so triggered that the trump administration are not talking about this. lmao

What a bunch of assholes really. They live in an alternate reality.

Very sad... What a bunch of losers!

libertarian1776 02-03-2017 03:25 PM

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are you a math wiz or teacher bro?

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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 601816)
What a bunch of assholes really. They live in an alternate reality.

Very sad... What a bunch of losers!


Gnome 02-03-2017 03:25 PM

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They should clear up that DAPA is indeed dead. The uninformed person who asked the question makes it seem to the viewers that DAPA is alive. Spicer's vague answer had the same effect. I agree, it's clear they want to keep DACA or find a legislative replacement for it, but they should clear up that DAPA has been dead and will remain that way.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-03-2017 03:29 PM

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I think they will say DAPA is dead and make that the big news... Then quitely say DACA will end Congress is coming up with a solution. Maybe he will say DACA ends at the end of the year and that is the time Congress has to fix the issue.

I would be happy with that, then force Congress to pass something, if nothing passes then it does not get cancelled.

libertarian1776 02-03-2017 04:20 PM

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isn't dapa dead no matter what they do cause of the SCOTUS 4-4 decision?

nationalsfan 02-03-2017 04:43 PM

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Basically the same non-answer we've been hearing for two weeks now... I don't think we've heard any news in the last couple of days with the ban and the SC appointee sucking oxygen out of the news cycle.

kikibay92 02-03-2017 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 601791)
he wont get rid of DACA unless there is a replacement. its obvious with Spicer's answer he doesnt want to end it, they are basically saying give us a break guys... we kept most of our campaign promises regarding immigration like the muslim ban, refugee, etc and we can leave daca alone etc all that bullshit.

Why is that nasty sucka on ur profile pic?

VeryNicePerson1 02-03-2017 06:16 PM

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What do you guys think is the real reason they seem to be so secretive on DACA?

If I was to choose the main reason, I am still sticking with my thought that they simply do not want to enter the taboo realm of taking away something given to someone.

But this administration is basically messing with everyone else...so I dunno what the deal is really...

Dreamer3ooo 02-03-2017 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 601850)
What do you guys think is the real reason they seem to be so secretive on DACA?

If I was to choose the main reason, I am still sticking with my thought that they simply do not want to enter the taboo realm of taking away something given to someone.

But this administration is basically messing with everyone else...so I dunno what the deal is really...

They are definitely not shy about screwing people over in very big ways. In fact, if they wanted to bury the outcry over a potential DACA end, they would have announced it at the same time as their Muslim ban and the other executive orders, that way the DACA outcry would have been drowned out among all of the other stuff. We would have been a smaller part of the overall issue. Instead, if they end it now, we would be a whole separate issue unto ourselves. It doesn't make sense politically. The only reasonable explanation is that they really are working on a solution. Something besides the leaked EO, but also different than the BRIDGE Act because they would have said something about that already.

On a related note, the I-821D DACA form was recently updated on USCIS. Other members have looked at the form and said there were no changes to it, only that the form was updated on 02/02/2017 and the expiration reads 01/31/2019. So basically nothing new, but then why bother to put a new date on the form if you were just going to end the program anyway? I don't want to read too much into that tiny fact, it could be just government waste. But since that leaked EO hasn't been signed, I'm still holding on to just a tiny bit of hope.

libertarian1776 02-03-2017 06:51 PM

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uscis update on i-821 doesnt mean anything. its just an application paper update.. its standard for paper applications for anything.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-03-2017 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 601838)
isn't dapa dead no matter what they do cause of the SCOTUS 4-4 decision?

I believe that there is a deadline that the Texas judge who stopped the order gave the administration to reply. I believe the administration needs to basically withdraw from the lawsuit and then DAPA would eventually be dead.

I am wondering if Trump has no clue on how to do that and or if Sessions has asked Trump to award him the honors of officially killing it, once he becomes the attorney general next week.

The question remains as to what Sessions opinions regarding DACA will yield once he is nominated and becomes a cabinet member.

I wish Christie has become the AG.

DACA-IR-DA 02-04-2017 01:48 AM

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Do you think will be something for aged out Dreamers in 2012?

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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 601856)
I believe that there is a deadline that the Texas judge who stopped the order gave the administration to reply. I believe the administration needs to basically withdraw from the lawsuit and then DAPA would eventually be dead.

I am wondering if Trump has no clue on how to do that and or if Sessions has asked Trump to award him the honors of officially killing it, once he becomes the attorney general next week.

The question remains as to what Sessions opinions regarding DACA will yield once he is nominated and becomes a cabinet member.

I wish Christie has become the AG.


libertarian1776 02-04-2017 01:57 AM

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no sorry, i doubt aged out dreamers will qualify for anything in the near future.


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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 601894)
Do you think will be something for aged out Dreamers in 2012?


eva02 02-04-2017 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VeryNicePerson1 (Post 601850)
What do you guys think is the real reason they seem to be so secretive on DACA?

If I was to choose the main reason, I am still sticking with my thought that they simply do not want to enter the taboo realm of taking away something given to someone.

But this administration is basically messing with everyone else...so I dunno what the deal is really...

It's easier to deny refugees with no ties to this country then to go after kids that were basically born here and have deep ties to the country. We are ingrained into society and have the backing of many organizations, schools, mayors, and business leaders. On top of that, we are properly vetted every 2 years and in trumps words "went to great schools and have great jobs". There is no reason for him to just revoke our protections other than just hatred. Even if this protection is unconstitutional, Trump should wait for Congress' action on the matter.

My guess is they'll just string the daca thing along like his taxes and then hope the public forgets. Of course there will always be the hardliners, but hopefully they can back off if he vows to overturn it when congress acts.


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