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Ianus 02-07-2017 11:44 AM
Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
http://www.fox10tv.com/story/3444027...-for-wednesday
Quote:
MOBILE, AL (WALA) -

The U.S. Senate is expected to vote Wednesday on the nomination of U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama to be the next U.S. attorney general.

Here is the timetable:

Following Tuesday afternoon's vote on the nomination of Betsy DeVos as education secretary, there will be a cloture vote on the Sessions nomination. Cloture is a procedure for ending a debate and taking a vote. A 30-hour discussion period will begin at that point during which there will be debate on the Sessions nomination.

- Sessions' vote will likely take place Wednesday evening, when the 30-hour period expires.

- Democrats could attempt a filibuster, but when they were in control of the Senate, they established a rule that would require only 51 votes to break a filibuster and Sessions is believed to have those votes.

- Once he is confirmed by the Senate, Sessions will likely submit his letter of resignation from the Senate effective midnight Wednesday, to be followed by his swearing-in as U.S. attorney general Thursday morning.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-07-2017 01:27 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
God damn it

Vze77ach 02-07-2017 01:33 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
He is well known as the most anti-immigrant advocate in the US , he has no compassion at all and voted against every immigration reform bill in the past. We all all fucked if he becomes the next AG , I believe he will be because Republican has majority seats in both chamber of congress

God ! Please wake up ! Open your eyes to see what is happening !

tf2legend 02-07-2017 03:26 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Sessions, Bannon and Miller will give us trouble.

Dreamer3ooo 02-07-2017 03:38 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
This is bad, but it was not unexpected. A lot of the relief that deportation cases depend on will disappear, so basically if we get caught up in deportation proceedings our odds will go from low to near zero. But that doesn't mean we should focus solely on planning to relocate to another country just yet. Everyone should have an exit strategy, but it is only to be used as the very last resort. I have my exit strategy planned out, but only so that I am not completely lost if the time comes. I don't plan on using it until I've exhausted every last avenue.

As of right now DACA is still standing. I know that it is on very shaky ground, but it is not gone yet. I've moved back in with my parents to reduce costs and I am saving as much money as I can so I have something to take with me if I have to leave. But as long as DACA stands we still have something. If DACA is removed they will push for the BRIDGE Act. I know a lot of people don't think it has a good chance of passing, but neither does a stand alone enforcement bill, there is room for compromise. If we get some sort of legal protection then Sessions won't be able to take it away. Things look really grim right now for the undocumented community, but we are the most sympathetic group out there. As long as that is the case we still have a chance. And as long as I am able to work and make money, my parents will be alright as well. We've had discussions about this, they are scared as well, but if they had to leave and I was able to stay, a dollar goes a long way where we are from.

If we ultimately end up with nothing, then I plan to just keep working and saving until I get caught or until ICE comes to get me at home through the DACA database (highly unlikely in my opinion). As long as I stay out of trouble, I might be able to outlast the Trump years. If I am detained I had planned to use an attorney to prolong my case in court past the Trump presidency, but that plan might now be out the window with Sessions as the AG. So instead I will represent myself in court (usually NOT recommended) in order to save the attorney money because even with an attorney the odds are at near zero. If I get ordered deported, then I'll comply with the order to avoid jail time. But I will have exhausted all avenues of relief and leave with some savings instead of spending it on an attorney and leaving with nothing.

If I do find myself out of the U.S. I probably won't just stay wherever I land. I will be looking to relocate as soon as possible, either to another country like Canada, or at least to a safer part of my home country. If you have a degree in something, you will always be worth something to someone. There are possibilities for educated people, even in third world countries. I also believe that when power changes hands again, DREAMers might be able to find a way back in to the U.S. That's if you even want to come back. If I start a good little business somewhere, get married, and have kids, I might not be inclined to return even if the offer were extended. I guess my overall point is that life goes on. I have invested years of my life in college, post graduate studies, and I have a good career. All of that is at risk right now and I am just as worried as everyone else. But I won't let what is currently going on right now fundamentally change who I am. I got this far because of my determination and hard work ethic, and that doesn't change even if they take everything away, unless you let it.

In the end I think we might get a break. Maybe they end new applicants for DACA and those already in it can keep renewing "until congress comes up with a more permanent solution." Maybe they pass the BRIDGE Act. Maybe they attach something better to an enforcement bill. Maybe if they let us work until our EAD's expire, the issue will become so hot that they have to do something about it near the midterm elections. All of these options are still on the table, and if any one of them goes through, Sessions won't be able to do much about it.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-07-2017 03:42 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer3ooo (Post 602217)
This is bad, but it was not unexpected. A lot of the relief that deportation cases depend on will disappear, so basically if we get caught up in deportation proceedings our odds will go from low to near zero. But that doesn't mean we should focus solely on planning to relocate to another country just yet. Everyone should have an exit strategy, but it is only to be used as the very last resort. I have my exit strategy planned out, but only so that I am not completely lost if the time comes. I don't plan on using it until I've exhausted every last avenue.

As of right now DACA is still standing. I know that it is on very shaky ground, but it is not gone yet. I've moved back in with my parents to reduce costs and I am saving as much money as I can so I have something to take with me if I have to leave. But as long as DACA stands we still have something. If DACA is removed they will push for the BRIDGE Act. I know a lot of people don't think it has a good chance of passing, but neither does a stand alone enforcement bill, there is room for compromise. If we get some sort of legal protection then Sessions won't be able to take it away. Things look really grim right now for the undocumented community, but we are the most sympathetic group out there. As long as that is the case we still have a chance. And as long as I am able to work and make money, my parents will be alright as well. We've had discussions about this, they are scared as well, but if they had to leave and I was able to stay, a dollar goes a long way where we are from.

If we ultimately end up with nothing, then I plan to just keep working and saving until I get caught or until ICE comes to get me at home through the DACA database (highly unlikely in my opinion). As long as I stay out of trouble, I might be able to outlast the Trump years. If I am detained I had planned to use an attorney to prolong my case in court past the Trump presidency, but that plan might now be out the window with Sessions as the AG. So instead I will represent myself in court (usually NOT recommended) in order to save the attorney money because even with an attorney the odds are at near zero. If I get ordered deported, then I'll comply with the order to avoid jail time. But I will have exhausted all avenues of relief and leave with some savings instead of spending it on an attorney and leaving with nothing.

If I do find myself out of the U.S. I probably won't just stay wherever I land. I will be looking to relocate as soon as possible, either to another country like Canada, or at least to a safer part of my home country. If you have a degree in something, you will always be worth something to someone. There are possibilities for educated people, even in third world countries. I also believe that when power changes hands again, DREAMers might be able to find a way back in to the U.S. That's if you even want to come back. If I start a good little business somewhere, get married, and have kids, I might not be inclined to return even if the offer were extended. I guess my overall point is that life goes on. I have invested years of my life in college, post graduate studies, and I have a good career. All of that is at risk right now and I am just as worried as everyone else. But I won't let what is currently going on right now fundamentally change who I am. I got this far because of my determination and hard work ethic, and that doesn't change even if they take everything away, unless you let it.

In the end I think we might get a break. Maybe they end new applicants for DACA and those already in it can keep renewing "until congress comes up with a more permanent solution." Maybe they pass the BRIDGE Act. Maybe they attach something better to an enforcement bill. Maybe if they let us work until our EAD's expire, the issue will become so hot that they have to do something about it near the midterm elections. All of these options are still on the table, and if any one of them goes through, Sessions won't be able to do much about it.

Reminder that Bush/Obamas secure communities that deported 4 million aliens at its height not letting apprehended folk even see a judge. Just catch and deported. And this was with out Sessions. I cannot imagine how more active ICE will be with him

Dreamer3ooo 02-07-2017 03:53 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 602222)
Reminder that Bush/Obamas secure communities that deported 4 million aliens at its height not letting apprehended folk even see a judge. Just catch and deported. And this was with out Sessions. I cannot imagine how more active ICE will be with him
Well I am always open to suggestions. But if it's all the same I still won't be packing my bags just yet.

Vze77ach 02-07-2017 09:23 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
With Jeff session as the AG, there is no hope all that any immigration reform bill will pass. I am not optimistic at all.
I am so fucking terrified

K-Man 02-08-2017 01:17 AM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vze77ach (Post 602318)
With Jeff session as the AG, there is no hope all that any immigration reform bill will pass. I am not optimistic at all.
I am so fucking terrified
Calm the fuck down. Every other post you've been saying "I'm terrified" this and that, first off how is the AG directly going to stop congressional passage of a bill? If you're that worried just give up now and gtfo please.

libertarian1776 02-08-2017 02:50 AM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
you need to relax bro. oh wait...the Justice Dept has no say in the legislative process. And when hes AG he's no longer a Senator in the United States Senate. stop being a little bitch boy.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vze77ach (Post 602318)
With Jeff session as the AG, there is no hope all that any immigration reform bill will pass. I am not optimistic at all.
I am so fucking terrified

freshh. 02-08-2017 03:11 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Man (Post 602351)
Calm the fuck down. Every other post you've been saying "I'm terrified" this and that, first off how is the AG directly going to stop congressional passage of a bill? If you're that worried just give up now and gtfo please.
I'm more concerned about how he will use his office to roll back voting rights in this country. :|

Could have been worse...he could be DHS secretary along with Kobach. Thank God for small mercies. :lol:

JohannBernoulli1667 02-08-2017 03:17 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by freshh. (Post 602421)
I'm more concerned about how he will use his office to roll back voting rights in this country. :|

Could have been worse...he could be DHS secretary along with Kobach. Thank God for small mercies. :lol:
Agree, I sure cannot wait for the announcement...

I want to get it over so I can plan my life! Limbo keeps is on the edge and makes life exciting and all but it also is extremely stressful

MIdreamer 02-08-2017 03:21 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 602423)
Agree, I sure cannot wait for the announcement...

I want to get it over so I can plan my life! Limbo keeps is on the edge and makes life exciting and all but it also is extremely stressful
My work performance took a hit ever since Trump got elected. It's hard to focus with everything that's going on.

Dreamer0987 02-08-2017 03:24 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 602425)
My work performance took a hit ever since Trump got elected. It's hard to focus with everything that's going on.
Same thing here since Trump won in November.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-08-2017 04:56 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Mine did for a while, even from before I was stressing over renewal, then I stress over Hillary , then Trump won and I had a mini breakdown , since then I have slowly recouped, 4 years are nothing. Try to be happy, it will pass. I honestly do not think we, dreamers will be deported.

I 100% understand.. it is disuptive. I want to continue to get another degree, but I am waiting to hear exactly what will happen.

To set my goals and implement a plan. Perhaps start a temporary way to make money etc... I want to hear specifics, timeline etc...

made4u 02-08-2017 05:12 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
I think most people who have recently renewed or have 2 more years are not that stressed out or even care that much what happens compared to the rest of us who are expiring this year. Just my 2 cents

JohannBernoulli1667 02-08-2017 05:20 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by made4u (Post 602440)
I think most people who have recently renewed or have 2 more years are not that stressed out or even care that much what happens compared to the rest of us who are expiring this year. Just my 2 cents
I am with you on that, although, remember 1 year and a half will fly...

Dreamer3ooo 02-08-2017 06:28 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 602425)
My work performance took a hit ever since Trump got elected. It's hard to focus with everything that's going on.
Mine too, it's hard to deal with clients and their problems when mine are so much worse.

SEPT 06 02-08-2017 08:23 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
sen. sessions is now officially Attorney General. 52 to 47.....::(:

Swim19 02-08-2017 08:31 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SEPT 06 (Post 602482)
sen. sessions is now officially Attorney General. 52 to 47.....::(:
No surprise there. Not enough Democrats to stop it.

DD4S 02-08-2017 08:37 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
It's official now.
This next week will be the most important for us.
Was trump waiting for him to be approved before he signed the end of DACA?
Or is trump really looking to "help" us ?
We will find out next week

Dreamer3ooo 02-08-2017 08:41 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DD4S (Post 602485)
It's official now.
This next week will be the most important for us.
Was trump waiting for him to be approved before he signed the end of DACA?
Or is trump really looking to "help" us ?
We will find out next week
True. There is nothing left for Trump to "wait" on. I hope for all of our sakes, all 750,000+ of us, that we at least get to keep DACA or that the BRIDGE Act passes, or that they really are working on "something good" for us. If any of those 3 scenarios play out then Sessions won't be able to do much about it.

daca12 02-08-2017 09:11 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
What would be the reason Trump was waiting for Sessions to end DACA?

Jsonkim88 02-08-2017 09:12 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
So are we fucked??

libertarian1776 02-08-2017 09:24 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
yall gotta stop with the hysterical my life is over shit.

stop being so dramatic with your hyperbolic statements.

Dres2011 02-08-2017 09:28 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
The pressure to legalize us will be on now.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-08-2017 09:38 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daca12 (Post 602488)
What would be the reason Trump was waiting for Sessions to end DACA?
Maybe he wants to give him a sweet victory... idk

Ianus 02-08-2017 10:09 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 602495)
Maybe he wants to give him a sweet victory... idk
...Or to say at the advisement of his new AG...It is unconstitutional.

DanielPL 02-08-2017 10:23 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
When Trump said that he will "work something out" with dreamers what did he mean by that.

MIdreamer 02-08-2017 10:25 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
There is no reason to wait for Sessions to end DACA. Trump could end DACA with a simple call to Kelly. I think we will be fine.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-08-2017 10:47 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 602502)
There is no reason to wait for Sessions to end DACA. Trump could end DACA with a simple call to Kelly. I think we will be fine.
I really hope so!

Maybe he will give Sessions the honor or cancelling DAPA but not DACA. lol

Again, we are all speculating, there are way too many possibilities. I just want it to happen already...

made4u 02-08-2017 10:57 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 602503)
I really hope so!

Maybe he will give Sessions the honor or cancelling DAPA but not DACA. lol

Again, we are all speculating, there are way too many possibilities. I just want it to happen already...
Im with You on this....just tell me already whats going to happen, im tired of checking for daca news daily, sleeping poorly, performing poor at work....the suspense....

libertarian1776 02-08-2017 11:10 PM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
if some of you guys are letting this affect your physical and mental health, yall need to double check yourself.

dgx21 02-09-2017 12:37 AM
Re: Sessions' confirmation vote set for Wednesday
 
I know so many kids that were born here in the USA and are so damn ignorant, don't know anything about how the government works and just sit there and smoke weed the whole day, never go to school and have horrible jobs. And then I read you educated young men and women, and I realize we really have ZERO rights, and I ask myself why do we have to suffer with this "Trump is gonna end DACA bs" everyday. We are so smart and educated and hardworking, it is so unfair... if they end DACA then they really are begging us to self-deport. Truth is the 750k dreamers out there are smarter and better than probably 5 million Americans the same age. From here on I'm just hoping for the best but expecting the worst. Peace


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