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pink 02-10-2017 04:18 PM

Routine Ice raid but target criteria has changed.
 
The round ups of undocumented citizens are routine. But Sarah Owings, who chairs the Georgia-Alabama chapter of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, said ICE’s priorities have changed under President Trump. She said under President Obama, ICE primarily targeted violent criminals. Now, the department is going after “low-hanging fruit,” like people who have traffic offenses.:-o:shock:



http://www.decaturish.com/2017/02/im...uford-highway/

DD4S 02-10-2017 04:32 PM

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this is in fact very sad. But lets remember that Daca is still in effect so we are protected from deportation.

pink 02-10-2017 04:41 PM

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Very sad in deed, I think Trump is going to attack the so called sanctuary states more, especially CALI because of the resistance of California to his administraion.

pink 02-10-2017 04:54 PM

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There’s also unconfirmed reports that ICE agents are trailing kids walking home from school to lead them to their parents


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...ortation-raids

isk84life 02-10-2017 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pink (Post 603003)
There’s also unconfirmed reports that ICE agents are trailing kids walking home from school to lead them to their parents


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...ortation-raids

I saw that, that is effed up. This is starting to turn into Nazi Germany. ICE agents have no compassion. They just follow order for a small paycheck.

ceaguila 02-10-2017 05:02 PM

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(In a statement to reporters Thursday, ICE said it will "focus on identifying and removing individuals with felony convictions who have final orders of removal.")

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ngeles-phoenix

MIdreamer 02-10-2017 05:06 PM

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I can't believe DACA is still standing. There has to be a good reason that we are not targeted.

Dreamernb87 02-10-2017 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 603007)
I can't believe DACA is still standing. There has to be a good reason that we are not targeted.

We are bargaining chips.

Resistant 02-10-2017 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 603007)
I can't believe DACA is still standing. There has to be a good reason that we are not targeted.

Thank God we are still OK.

Elmexicano 02-10-2017 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 603007)
I can't believe DACA is still standing. There has to be a good reason that we are not targeted.


1 Bargaining chip for wall.
2 To counter bad PR for (expected) massive raids all over the country.

APinfo 02-10-2017 05:35 PM

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I highly doubt DACA will make any difference. ICE has shown time and time again that they will arrest and harass anybody that isn't a citizen.

libertarian1776 02-10-2017 06:04 PM

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i want what you're smoking dude. its been 3 weeks since inaguration day and we're still here.

when ICE knocks on my door ill make sure ill post here about it before i let them in.


Quote:

Originally Posted by APinfo (Post 603014)
I highly doubt DACA will make any difference. ICE has shown time and time again that they will arrest and harass anybody that isn't a citizen.


ceaguila 02-10-2017 06:09 PM

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Statement by ICE..

Immigration officials on Friday confirmed approximately 160 immigrants were arrested in raids conducted in six Southern California counties.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials said the raids targeted “at-large criminal aliens, illegal re-entrants, and immigration fugitives.”

The raids began Monday and concluded Friday at noon, local time. ICE said immigrants were detained in 55 communities across six Southland counties.

“I want to stress that the statistics below are still preliminary given that the five-day operation concluded only hours ago,” ICE spokesperson Virginia Kice said in a statement.

Approximately 150 of 160 people detained had criminal histories, according to ICE. The remaining immigrants without a criminal records who were taken into custody, five had final orders of removal or had been previously deported.

http://fusion.net/story/386185/ice-c...ds-losangeles/

biscuitneck 02-10-2017 06:15 PM

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You guys are living in some sort of dreamland.

Trump tried to implement an executive order that banned green card holders while they were traveling in the air on their way into the United States. These people were detained and denied entry into the country at the time until a federal judge blocked the order.

Read that last paragraph again.

Read it again.

What makes you think he gives any shits about DACA holders?

It may take time for ICE to get organized, but until you become a citizen, just know that you're probably targeted too. It doesn't matter where the fuck you are on that list. You're in it.

Got_Daca 02-10-2017 06:22 PM

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About 160 from 11 million?

Not even news.

g33k 02-10-2017 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 603021)
About 160 from 11 million?

Not even news.

This could be your mom, aunt, brother. I am sure if its part of your family, it will be news.

APinfo 02-10-2017 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theystolemyusernamesmh (Post 603025)
Then pack your bags and self deport, if that's your mentality.

His post said nothing of giving up and leaving. He's just pointing out that DACA doesn't mean anything if these agencies were willing to mess with people that have a real legal status here. He's pointing to the fact that a lot of users are disillusioned that we're OK bc of DACA. When in fact nobody is safe. They may or may not deport you if apprehended. But guarantee they will take you in just to screw with you.

Obama 02-10-2017 06:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theystolemyusernamesmh (Post 603025)
Then pack your bags and go home if that's your mentality.

He's being realistic, albeit a little pessimistic.

libertarian1776 02-10-2017 06:40 PM

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where was this outrage when obama did it? he deported nearly 5 million people, most in history.


Quote:

Originally Posted by APinfo (Post 603027)
His post said nothing of giving up and leaving. He's just pointing out that DACA doesn't mean anything if these agencies were willing to mess with people that have a real legal status here. He's pointing to the fact that a lot of users are disillusioned that we're OK bc of DACA. When in fact nobody is safe. They may or may not deport you if apprehended. But guarantee they will take you in just to screw with you.


Got_Daca 02-10-2017 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 603023)
This could be your mom, aunt, brother. I am sure if its part of your family, it will be news.

This is DACA forum. Not DAPA forum.

APinfo 02-10-2017 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 603030)
where was this outrage when obama did it? he deported nearly 5 million people, most in history.

Outrage from who? They had protests with Obama. All the time.

ceaguila 02-10-2017 06:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 603030)
where was this outrage when obama did it? he deported nearly 5 million people, most in history.

I love our president and I'm grateful for what he did for us but this is true. He deported 2.7 million iincluding families, children and non-criminal, especially between 2009 and 2013. It was never on the news even though it should have been (except for the central american families)

libertarian1776 02-10-2017 06:44 PM

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not as intense as the one right now cause the MSM is blowing it up.

trust me man, daca ppl will be fine. im not saying we are untouchable and im sorry about their families.

Quote:

Originally Posted by APinfo (Post 603032)
Outrage from who? They had protests with Obama. All the time.


isk84life 02-10-2017 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Resistant (Post 603009)
Thank God we are still OK.

Does ICE even have our information?

g33k 02-10-2017 06:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 603031)
This is DACA forum. Not DAPA forum.

Where does it say is for DACA only? This forum was established way before DACA. Last time I checked the domain, its "dreamact.info." not "dacaonlyforum.info"

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-10-2017 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 603036)
Where does it say is for DACA only? This forum was established way before DACA. Last time I checked the domain, its "dreamact.info." not "dacaonlyforum.info"

This lol this was NEVER a daca forum this was meant for the dream act

Swim19 02-10-2017 07:01 PM

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A lawyer (Laurel Scott) on facebook that I follow had this to say about the raids so far:

Quote:

I'm getting reports from individuals and reading articles that indicate there has been an uptick in apprehensions of people with outstanding orders for removal. Preparations for this - which would include an increase in ICE presence and activity - may have been what sparked the rumors of mass "raids". While the increase in apprehensions is noteworthy, it pales in comparison to the mass Expedited Removals we were expecting (and maybe still are expecting). Those who have an outstanding order for removal have already had their day in court

This increase in ICE activity is something we should observe carefully, but it is not the potential due process violation I'm worried about with Expedited Removals in the interior.
So there's no need to panic. Be aware this is going on, and make sure all your undocumented family members understand what to do if ICE knocks on their door. For the moment, ICE is only going after those with outstanding order of removal. This doesn't mean they won't start apprehending people for other things, but let's keep calm and deal with it when (or if) that happens.

libertarian1776 02-10-2017 07:05 PM

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hi swim. <3

g33k 02-10-2017 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 603038)
A lawyer (Laurel Scott) on facebook that I follow had this to say about the raids so far:



So there's no need to panic. Be aware this is going on, and make sure all your undocumented family members understand what to do if ICE knocks on their door. For the moment, ICE is only going after those with outstanding order of removal. This doesn't mean they won't start apprehending people for other things, but let's keep calm and deal with it when (or if) that happens.

When ICE goes in a house after an individual, they question everyone inside for their status.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-10-2017 07:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 603041)
When ICE goes in a house after an individual, they question everyone inside for their status.

This - if you anyone at home with a criminal record best you have your daca out

Swim19 02-10-2017 07:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 603041)
When ICE goes in a house after an individual, they question everyone inside for their status.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 603042)
This - if you anyone at home with a criminal record best you have your daca out

I'm aware, which is why it's important to know your rights. If you show your EAD, you should be ok (at least at the moment).

g33k 02-10-2017 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 603042)
This - if you anyone at home with a criminal record best you have your daca out

Also, I am sure there will be a lot of intentional "mistakes" by ICE.

"Oh we thought such and such was in this house."

Then ICE ends up taking totally innocent people.

2MoreYears 02-10-2017 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 603041)
When ICE goes in a house after an individual, they question everyone inside for their status.

No one is getting inside without a warrant!!

g33k 02-10-2017 07:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 603045)
No one is getting inside without a warrant!!

With a warrant, they can go in. Individual might not live there anymore. It has happened before.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-10-2017 07:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 603045)
No one is getting inside without a warrant!!

exigent circumstances

pink 02-10-2017 07:59 PM

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Thinking DACA is untouchable based on observing trump for 11 days is a false sense of security. Most of the raids are going to be low key and only people with cellphones taping and reporting some of the incidents tis how we even find out about it. I don't even understand why so much infighting about wether people are being negative or positive.

I think everyone should be careful, DACA or not. If they are grabbing up folks for simple traffic infractions does that apply to just undocumented without daca or also the ones with...who knows. Some law firms are advising those who have not signed up for DACA yet to NOT send in New applications in until Trump officially announces that HE will Protect DACA. I think Trump will leave DACA alone more than he would try to undo, Not because he gives a Sh!t ----but like I said before Bad optics.

pink 02-10-2017 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 603036)
Where does it say is for DACA only? This forum was established way before DACA. Last time I checked the domain, its "dreamact.info." not "dacaonlyforum.info"

Totally Agree.

ceaguila 02-10-2017 08:16 PM

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via @aflores

David Marin, field office director for ICE enforcement removal operation in LA, said they arrested 161 people and 151 had prior convictions

10 of the people arrested had no criminal convictions and 5 of them had final deportation orders or were deported in the past.

Of the other 5 "those were individuals were in the country illegally. They had no documentation or any right to be here in the country"

In call with media Marin said the arrests in LA were planned and stage before the executive orders were rolled out.


ICE said "Of 161 people we arrested all but 5 would've been cases we would've prioritized for enforcement previously" under the Obama admin

Marin also said reports of ICE checkpoints, random sweeps, and the like are false and endanger communities.

complicatedc33 02-10-2017 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 603036)
Where does it say is for DACA only? This forum was established way before DACA. Last time I checked the domain, its "dreamact.info." not "dacaonlyforum.info"

I agree also, some people should really think about where they came from, and how. Our parents are still at risk. We may also have family members out of status, and friends. Heck, there are even aged out dreamers. These updates are important if it can help keep us informed. Some people forget their past as an undocumented person because of DACA. Not cool, especially in a time like this. Families need to stay together.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-10-2017 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by complicatedc33 (Post 603058)
I agree also, some people should really think about where they came from, and how. Our parents are still at risk. We may also have family members out of status, and friends. Heck, there are even aged out dreamers. These updates are important if it can help keep us informed. Some people forget their past as an undocumented person because of DACA. Not cool, especially in a time like this. Families need to stay together.

Some users mentality has gone solo

"I have DACA I will be okay" the truth is we all have family at risk. All it takes is for them to be at the wrong place at the wrong time


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